Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It just seems like drafts keep getting weaker. Outside the top few picks, most players in the past few drafts have been crap.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Because we need the cap space to keep building our team. We have to pay some of these younger players and will have to pay more of them to keep them soon. Can't do that with giant useless contracts like Grants hanging around.
     
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    You "tank" because you have better odds to get better players the higher you pick.

    You don't "tank" to get the first pick. As I have been saying all along. Though you get a higher chance for that as well.

    And you get the old guys that you know you aren't going to build with out of the way so the young guys you currently have can get the game reps you need them getting.

    *Edit* As opposed to reps standing in the corner with an old guy dominating the ball while trying to prove he still has potential.
     
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  4. Chris Craig

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    Fair enough

    I agree we need to get rid of some of these veterans now.
     
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    Which would be evidence that having a higher floor of where your pick could be is important because you can never rely fully on chance.
     
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    You don't give up young talent for something theoretical. There is no immediate need for cap space which it wouldn't even create by moving him. The optics alone is why it won't happen. I also don't think it would take a lottery pick to move Grant. I also think he'd be fine coming off the bench and provide scoring.
     
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    Odd dynamic to Flagg or any Mavs star... Would you want to join that franchise? You've seen how they treat a superstar that carries a team to the finals. I could see stars prefer not to be on a team with that owner or Nico as the GM.
     
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    Unless you are the Mavericks or Spurs
     
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    Flagg did look kind of worried
     
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    Blazers have been doing that for years. It's not theoretical to move away from Grant. We don't need it want his contract here.

    I don't agree Grant will be happy to come off the bench.
     
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    Nico is such a scapegoat. That deal doesn't happen without ownership pushing for it. This should be obvious by now.
     
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    Doing what exactly?
     
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    This is only the 2nd time the Mavs will have picked #1.

    The Spurs have picked #1 three times.

    The Blazers have picked #1 four times.
     
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    Ant, Ayton, Thybulle and Timelord contracts all expire this summer. Deni and Camara are on cheap deals. Cap is going up a lot too. As long as we don't hand out more stupid contracts we can eat the Grant deal.

    I mean if we can sign multiple stars with Grant space of course I'd explore that. I just doubt that's the case. Much better to keep #11 and try to get a good player. They will be on a cheap contract longer than Grants deal.
     
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    Giving up young talent for nothing.
     
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    Still gotta get rid of someone if we make the pick. Guess that means Duop or Kris.
     
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    So are Meyers Leonard and and current Rip City Reviewer James Bouknight
     
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    Yeah there's always a couple teams that jump.

    Odds are any one team will be part of the group of a dozen teams that don't jump. 12 of the 14 teams in the lottery slotted right about where they were expected to.
     
  20. Chris Craig

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    Why do the odds always seem to be stacked against us?
     

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