Event Who to pick at 11?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I refuse to get my hopes up about anyone at this point, since this draft is so fluid. Whoever I like now will end up going 7 and then I'll be unhappy.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think if we can get the 16th pick from the Magic for Ant then if he's still their we should draft Jase Richardson to be the shooting and microwave type player we'd be losing in Ant and then draft Fleming to give us even more three point shooting along with defensive and rotational versatility.
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Currently (and this will definitely change day to day) my favorites at #11:
    - Collin Murray-Boyles
    ** PER: 27.8 (18th best in NCAA)
    ** BPM: 11.9 (5th best in NCAA)
    - Asa Newell
    ** PER: 26.1 (38th best in NCAA)
    ** Orat: 131.5
    - Jase Richardson
    ** BPM: 11.6 (9th best in NCAA)
    ** Orat: 132.0
    - Thomas Sorber
    ** PER: 24.7
    ** Wingspan: 7' 6"
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Pick #11:

    1a) Kasparas Jakucionis
    1b) Noa Essengue

    Darkhorse:
    • Jase Richardson
    • Thomas Sorber

    Trade Up Target:
    • Kon Knueppel


    Pretty stark contrast - either go for defensive prospects or shooters.
     
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    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    I’ll freely admit that you all watch way more basketball than I do if you know how these guys actually play or have seen them for more than a single game.
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    I’ve read at least 3 mock drafts, and have watched at least 10 minutes of highlight videos. I’d consider myself an expert!
     
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    pessimism....you've been hanging around me too much
     
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    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    I’m pretty much in the same boat, but kudos to you for making it through 10 minutes of highlights.
     
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    There will be Giannis and Tatum / Brown wrinkle in the draft.
     
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    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    explain
     
  11. Sheldon Shape

    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    Jonathan Givony just said he thinks Queen is an all-star when he gets his body in better shape and he thinks he will.

    He also said he's very intrigued with Carter Bryant.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    If we get 27 from Orlando, does adding our 11 get us to 6 or 7 to get Kon?

    I would add Queen to your list as well as Carter Bryant.
     
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    well, in 2017, Portland used 15+20 to move up 5 slots to 10. They then wasted it on Zach Collins, but it was moving up 5 slots

    my hunch is that 27 added to 11 probably wouldn't be enough leverage to move up much at all. Just too big a gap between 11 and 27. Might get to 9; might not depending on the team. You're thinking Simons to Orlando so if it was 11+16, that might have enough leverage to move up 3-4 slots; not sure. But I'm inclined to think if Orlando was willing to send a decent 1st it would have happened already. I suppose maybe they wanted to wait and see if they ended up with a lottery pick

    I'd definitely do Simons for Anthony + Harris + #16....but I don't like Simons as a player. I'd even do it if it was 27 instead of 16
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    I doubt Portland would give 11 AND 16 just to move a few spots but who knows. I think its a little rich considering they didn't flinch to go grab Clingan. There isn't another player I want moved more than Simons so I'm right there with you. I think Black and 16 might be a bit rich but here's hoping.
     
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    Bryant is intriguing, although he fouls a lot and I am a little skeptical of players like Naz Little whose coaches don't play them much.
    His measurables are pretty good. height at 6'6 1/2" (barefoot), his weight at 214.8 lbs, his wingspan at 6'11 3/4", and his standing reach at 8'10"
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    SCOUTING REPORT BY Danny Chau
    The counting stats won’t make a very compelling case for Bryant as a first-round talent. He has one of the lowest usage rates of any player projected to go in the top 30, comparable to those of fellow freshman Khaman Maluach, who started playing basketball only five years ago. But Bryant would pass even the most rudimentary of eye tests: His Vitruvian frame, agility, and explosiveness would stand out in just about any game he’s in. The clincher? He’s only a freshman.

    Bryant’s standout trait at this stage is his defensive playmaking. He lifts off the ground quickly and hangs in the air for as long as necessary. His leaping ability, coupled with his quick reaction speed, makes his blocks seem like acts of precognition. He can swat away shots before the apex of the shooter’s jump because he arrives earlier than you’d expect. That mind-body sync grants him complete shot-blocking versatility: He’s equally adept at chase-downs, weakside help, blocking 3-pointers from a standstill, and getting an angle on a shot when defending on the low block. Of course, there’s a thin line between reading a situation more quickly than your opponent and getting caught in a compromising position. Bryant’s foul rate is staggeringly high for his position, more akin to a true center’s numbers than a roving, switchable combo forward’s. Teams will have to weigh their desire for ceiling-raising defensive playmaking against their appetite for foul trouble.

    The rest of Bryant’s game is far less volatile. He’s mostly a play finisher on offense, spotting up from 3 or scoring at the rim. The shooting indicators are legitimate: Bryant shot nearly 40 percent from 3 in Big 12 conference play and has shown promise from deep dating back to his high school stats. While flashes of self-creation have been practically nonexistent, Bryant finds ways to impact the offense. He’s a shrewd off-ball mover with a deep understanding of when to cut into daylight; he’s a smart passer, trusted to make the right read when the ball finds him. At this stage in his offensive development, he’s mostly a human fiber supplement (that’s a compliment).

    It will be hard for teams to pass up Bryant’s baseline skill set. He offers the full vision of a versatile role player without major compromises in size, shooting ability, or defensive acumen. The lack of meaningful on-ball reps could cap Bryant’s ceiling at the next level, but honest-to-goodness 3-and-D starters are hard to come by. Carter has all the tools to be next in line.
     
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    This is why I'm not in favor of drafting him. IMO his ceiling is low with little to no ball creation. I'd be more interested in Coward or Clifford in that type. Coward has very little game tape which might make it that he's a steal.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    Too bad we don't have much of what we'd be willing to give and what the Sixers would want.
     
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    Depending who the Blazers take -- SF .. 3 and D guy or someone like Queen the domino's that fall after that will be interesting

    If it's a 3 and D type then Thybulle almost for sure and maybe even Rupert might be on the way out

    OR if it's a PF/C type then

    We will just not even try and bring back Walker and Reath prolly gets traded for a future 2nd
     
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    And would we be really sure of getting a better player at 3 than at 11? It seems Flagg and Harper are the most sure picks and after that.....Except maybe Knueppel?
     

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