2025 NBA Draft

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  1. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call him low IQ or low effort at all

    The float comment on him is in regards to his aggressiveness as a scorer. He looks so good when he's in the post or getting to his 1-2 dribble pull-up, you wish he did it more.
     
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    The last two years of college ball he shot the 3 at 39% on 4.2 attempts per game. A big wing shooting that well from 3 with a quick high release just floating around on the perimeter spreads the defense out for teammates. Besides promoting efficient team play, it saves his energy for the other end where he also excels. I could see his coach preferring to use him this way vs spending his energy going one on one a bunch. Don't be surprised if he's gone before 11.

    btw, love the little trivia that his grandfather was an Olympic gold medalist in the 4x4 400.

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    Who knew Washington State had a secret NBA star on its roster. Shades of CJ Elleby!
     
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    It took me 2 minutes of watching CJ college film to know he was likely not an NBA player....
     
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    I would love to see them trade up to get him, we have the assets.
     
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    Agree with all of this, but unlike most 22 year olds, I watch him and think he can scale up his offensive role in the NBA and be more than largely an off ball player although he can still be a positive NBA player without that development.

    I think the biggest thing with him is he needs to strengthen his hips and quads. Would help him play more athletically as a driver. He pops off the floor on assisted finishes around the rim and as a weakside shot blocker, but really struggled to apply that vertical athleticism off the dribble.

    He has a lot of valgus knee motion when he loads up in these situations which makes it pretty clear there are some pretty big muscle imbalances going on.
     
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    Agreed. 100%.

    In the range of 11, that eliminates Queen, Newell, and CMB.

    I think you are left with Kon, KJ, Essengue, Bryant, Clifford
     
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    I value the opinions of experts. If I'm an NBA owner I'm hiring top guys in physiology, orthopedics ect. who can help my staff best project whats what with for every player I'm considering adding. As a fan though and being a few bucks short of hiring such a team of experts, I'm not offering real opinions on how guys are put together and how that will play out as what do I know? Heck, bowlegged LBJ is Ironman.

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    I wasn’t referring to any one player just making a statement about type of player I want at 11 and in general moving forward. Any player we draft or add through free agency or trades should have these attributes
     
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    There are different tiers of IQ an effort.

    If someone isn't a "high IQ player with relentless effort" doesn't make them low IQ/low effort. I typically view it in 4 tiers. High/Relentless, above average, below average, and low
     
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    Not a lot of consensus yet amongst the top mock drafts -

    A current sample of some of the common #11 picks on mock drafts:
    (4) Collin Murray-Boyles (NBA, CBS/Parrish, SB Nation, HoopsHype)
    (3) Noa Traore (USA Today/ForTheWin, Tankathon, NBADraft.net)
    (2) Kasparas Jakucionus (CBS/Boone, The Athletic)
    (2) Egor Demin (ESPN, NetScounts)
    (2) Jeremiah Fears (CBS/Finkelstein, USA Today/AI)
    (1) Derik Queen (The Ringer)
    (1) Carter Bryant (Yahoo/O'Connor)
    (1) Asa Newell (Bleacher Report)

    My favorite is CMB, but he certainly has his red-flags as do most of the players on this list.

    My preferences: CMB, Thomas Sorber, Asa Newell, Jase Richardson. But I'm not overly excited about any of these prospects.
     
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    I really like CMB but I think he's likely going later teens/twenties like Eason who is a pretty good comp for him.

    I think Kasparas would be a great get. Queen too.
     
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    Agreed. My guess is Queen and Kasparas will be gone by #11, but who knows...

    I think the talent level really falls off and levels off after the first 5 or 6. It feels like most of the mock picks in the 8-14 range are reaches. I'm not usually a fan of trading down in the draft, but this year it looks like the 'value' picks could be in the 15-18 range grabbing who falls.
     
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    My preference is trading up to get Kon or another sure thing prospect. Brooklyn is a team who has four 1sts.
     
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    Nobody had Essengue? (Sidenote: Noa Traore, Noa Essengue, Noah Penda - were they predicting biblical floods in France around 2005?)

    Kind of intrigued by Traore. He's skinny but he's got real talent.
     
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    I saw some NBA comps and they had Chris Mullin for Kon. If that’s real I’d give up something to move up but I also think if we can get into a Hou deal and snatch Reed that works also. He has a lot more than he got to show last season.
     

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