Welcome to Portland, Donovan Clingan!

Let us not forget that Edey is almost 2 years older than Clingan.

 

You’re late, rookie

 

Mazel tov, Donovan. Try for the sun.

 

Now you know you are blocked.

 

I mean I love what Deni has done in PDX - greatly exceeded expectations.

But losing Bub and whatever happens with that 2029 pick could be a huge loss. Wish there was a way we could've kept that 2029 pick. Celtics and Bucks both look like they could have major issues winning in 2029 and you never even know for certain if we could have a down year, plus how unpredictable the whole lottery can be. That could be a great lottery pick the Wizards get.

19 year old Bub would've been an exiting addition here as well. - although who knows if we would've taken him. But there was Jared McCain, Ware, Kneckt picked right after him which all have nice upside too.

 

Also, it could be a horrible lottery pick that the Wizards got and Bub would never be anywhere as good as Deni already s, while Deni goes on to become an All-star and finals MVP. I mean, if we play pretend...

Honestly, this kind of post means nothing - there was a guy the FO wanted / targeted - and they went out and got him for what they thought was worth the price. So far, it seems to be working pretty well - and that's all that you can do. They have a plan, it seems like a reasonable one, you now want to see what comes of that plan. There are only so many lottery picks you can have every year and at times, taking a flyer on a young prospect is the difference between being good while accumulating lottery picks or being great (See OKC, SGA).

Not saying that Deni will ever have the impact SGA has, but OKC without SGA is just a nice team, OKC with him are contenders...

 

If Donovan gets a bonus, I hope he gets a better haircut.

 

Sorry to side with MM here but I just don't think Clingan is going to be much more than a backup in this league unless he can get a consistent 3 point shot and some kind of moves around the basket.
He's a slow plodding white 7+ foot center that will get destroyed in the playoffs if the team gets there.
Personally I'd be looking at the best bigs available with the 11th pick.

 

If we surround him with shooters it would make a difference. Right now we are one of the worst shooting teams in the league. I think The Block Lobster will develop a decent mid range shot and be tough around the hoop. No doubt, D is his specialty and he's still super young. The think I like about him is his desire for the game and willingness to mix it up down low.

 

He is what he is. Way too slow to defend multiple positions and he doesn't shoot particularly well. Watching the playoffs this year shows he won't be a player you can play consistent minutes against elite teams.
In my opinion he is a good backup center at best.

 

I respect your opinion. However, I'm also quite sure it's wrong.

 

What part? He doesn't shoot particularly well? He's too slow to defend multiple positions? He's probably a good back up center? Elite teams will play him off the court?

 

Gobert hasn't been played off the court and he and Clingan have similar 'plodding' games. Gobert has averaged 32.6 minutes over 82 playoff games and he's attempted exactly 1 three in those 82 games (Gobert has never made a three in a game). Now , Gobert has averaged 65% on FGA's over his career while Clingan averaged 54% as a rookie. But, Gobert only averaged 49% on FGA's as a rookie, so that story hasn't had it's final chapter yet

they are about equal as rebounders, although Clingan is much better on the offensive glass. Clingan has flashed more potential as a passer than Gobert ever has. Granted, it hasn't been much but Clingan averaged 2.8 assists/100-possessions; as a rookie Gobert averaged 0.8

I agree that C is a Blazer weakness. But that's because Ayton is such an expensive Dud and Timelord's wheels are broken, not because of Clingan. Again, Gobert has averaged nearly 33 minutes in the playoffs and 31 minutes in the regular season over 12 years and 829 games. I don't see any reason that Clingan couldn't average 28-30 minutes. He averaged 27 over the last 22 games of the season

 

In the Twolves first loss to the Thunder Gobert was reduced to 21 mins on 1-3 shooting for 2 pts.
In the second loss he was reduced to 30 mins on 2-5 shooting for 5 pts. He did get 1 block that game.
In the blowout game he played decent but still was not really the factor for them winning. he played. Came away with 28 mins and 7 points.

All in all Gobert doesn't really make a great case for what Clingan brings.

 

cherry picking? how about just looking at this year's playoff game log for Gobert...all games



and of course, as long as we're talking about whether or not Gobert has actually been "played off the floor" in the playoffs, or if that's just some shallow urban myth, there are these numbers:





again...his career playoff averages are 32.6 minutes; 12.4 points; 10.7 rebounds. That's kind of the opposite of being played off the floor. And if you're just talking about this year's playoffs, keep in mind that Gobert turns 33 in a month; Clingan just turned 21 at the end of February

 

I still think Gobert hasn’t show much. He played well against the Lakers but other than that hasn’t been a dominant player.

 

It's hard to talk about Gobert, because it's too easy to conflate his value as a basketball player, and his value/($ + resources). The former, he's quite good. The latter, he's atrocious.