Politics It's the economy, stupid! Gas, healthcare, & chickens!

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    Things would be so different if the DNC and corporate Dems didn't rob us of a Bernie Sanders presidency in 2016...
     
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    Leaving aside the questionable theory of how Bernie failed to get elected in 2016, what makes you sure that a Bernie presidency wouldn't have led to a Trump presidency in 2020 and 2024?

    Maybe if Bernie had been elected, Paul Allen would have amended his will to say that the Blazers must move to Seattle when the RG lease ran out.
    When you flap that butterfly wing, you never know what might happen.

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    Bernie would have easily won reelection in 2020 and since he understands populism we would have had a much better populist option than Trump.
     
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    Maybe... maybe not.

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    4 years of Bernie would have been a whole lot better than any of the presidents we've had instead.
     
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    More than maybe. Bernie was polling 20+ ahead of not only Hilary, but Trump as well. When Bernie got shafted by the Dems, many left to go vote for Trump.
     
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    In some locations Bernie might have polled 20+ points ahead of Hillary, but not nationally. That's not even in the ballpark of reality.

    It is true, though, that Bernie polled better against Trump than Hillary.

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    I worded that incorrectly. Sanders was roughly 20 points above Trump in the polls while Hilary was neck and neck.

    Head to head with Hilary that changed because msm tricked MAGA blue that Bernie had no chance despite polling saying otherwise.

    Same people who shoved Biden down our throats and called us evil for bringing up Biden's age and mental capacity.

    And now we're here...
     
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    Hillary felt entitled and there was no way in hell the DNC was going to allow Bernie the opportunity....I always wondered why he didnt pout up more of a fight against doc & Hillarys/Donna's shenanigans? I realize that he ran as an Indy put he sure did bow out humbly and without a fight.
     
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    I thought he ran as a Dem.

    He didn't put up more of a fight because he didn't want to hurt the Dems too much and be the cause of a Republican winning.

    It's a tough line to walk. Trying to fix it without destroying it. Because once you destroy it it's hard to get it back to as good, let alone make it better.
     
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    I'm not sure I'd agree that Bernie didn't put up a fight. He stayed in it until the end. He campaigned.

    I think he walked the line between running a tough campaign and not wrecking the party's chances in November pretty well. Some of his supporters, not so much.

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    I've seen this suggestion and it seemed interesting. Any thoughts from our business owners and finance people?

    I think in order for this to work we'd need to make stock buybacks illegal again, or maybe just include the value of stock and capital gains in the equation? Am I wrong? Any other thoughts?
     
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