Bogus! Fuck ICE

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  1. Shaboid

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    These 75 Democrats joined Republicans to "express gratitude" to ICE agents and call for greater local and state collaboration with ICE. Is your rep on this list?

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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Mine is. Whelp, that was the first and last time I vote for her.......
     
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    I guess Janelle is trying to get on their good side?
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    ICE has a good side? I'd sure hate to see their bad side......
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    Ha

    She is trying to stay in the good graces of those who control ICE. Out of the line of fire so to speak.
     
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    When we all get shipped off to the concentration camp, she'll be given special privileges compared to the rest of us.

    barfo
     
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    The alternative was Lori Chavez-Deremear, who is now Labor Secretary in the administration after losing to Bynum.. soon to be renamed Slave-Labor Secretary, probably.
     
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    Swalwell is going to hear from me
     
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    Seeing really scary live feed of protests in LA. People dancing! OMG a rainbow flag!
     
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    Better get the national guard in there quick. Wait what? They are all passed out on the floor of some random building?
     
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    We have the legal ability to see any video and/or surveillance taken of us by the police. We may have to go to court to get it, but there are ways. We also have the right to question police policy in how it was used and we can petition our local and state governments to make changes and/or eliminate abuses.

    We don't have these rights with the military. Trump is making the military only answerable to him. Turning American military might on the American public with no rules or recourse is frightening.
     
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    Absolutely agree. I was simply saying that it could be used in a logical and non-abusive way.

    Remove the weapons from those things and use them responsibly (like have a company run it and open source it) and you could probably virtually eliminate unsolved violent crime.
     
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    IMO we already have too many for-profit elements in law enforcement. I don't want to add more.
     
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    It would definitely have to be done carefully. And I certainly don't trust our government to do it now. So I agree.

    It is just an interesting (and scary) capability.
     
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    Zen priest, Peter Coyote, on protest

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    Zen priest, Peter Coyote



    I’m watching the Los Angeles reaction to ICE raids with trepidation and regret.Three years ago I taught a class at Harvard on the “theater of protest”— designed to help people understand why so many protests turn out to be Republican campaign videos working directly against the interests of the original protest. A protest is an invitation to a better world. It’s a ceremony. No one accepts a ceremonial invitation when they’re being screamed at. More important you have to know who the real audience of the protest is. The audience is NEVER the police, the politicians, the Board of supervisors, Congress,etc.

    The audience is always the American people, who are trying to decide who they can trust; who will not embarrass them. If you win them, you win power at the box office and power to make positive change. Everything else is a waste.There are a few ways to get there:

    1. Let women organize the event. (OP: I think this should be inclusive, in general). They’re more collaborative. They’re more inclusive, and they don’t generally bring the undertones of violence men do.

    2. Appoint monitors, give them yellow vests and whistles. At the first sign of violence, they blow the whistles and the real protesters sit down. Let the police take out their aggression on the anarchists and the provocateurs trying to discredit the movement.

    3. Dress like you’re going to church. It’s hard to be painted as a hoodlum when you’re dressed in clean, presentable clothes.They don’t have to be fancy they just signal the respect for the occasion that you want to transmit to the audience.

    4. Make your protest silent. Demonstrate your discipline to the American people. Let signs do the talking.

    5. Go home at night. In the dark, you can’t tell the cops from the killers. Come back at dawn fresh and rested.

    I have great fear that Trump’s staging with the National Guard and maybe the Marines is designed to clash with anarchists who are playing into his hands and offering him the opportunity to declare an insurrection.It’s such a waste and it’s only because we haven’t thought things through strategically.

    Nothing I thought of is particularly original. It was all learned by watching the early civil rights protests in the 50s and 60s.And it was the discipline and courage of African-Americans that drew such a clear line in the American sand that people were forced to take sides and that produced the civil rights act.

    The American people are watching and once again if we behave in ways that can be misinterpreted, we’ll see this explained to the public in Republican campaign videos benefiting the very people who started this.

    Wake up.
    Vent at home.
    In public practice discipline and self control.

    It takes much more courage.

    - Peter Coyote
    Zen teacher and author/narrator, with Ken Burns

    Note: Carry an American flag.

    As the administration creates a fake emergency to justify a state crackdown, it's important to honor the values and vision of democracy for which we're advocating. When the Enquirer came for pics back in 2017, I smiled a big toothy grin and held a big flag as it felt so empowering and good to stand with my adult daughter, pastors, Franciscans, nuns, kids, parents, grandparents and some women from our women's groups for the values we tried to pass on. After the protest, we sang and marched to a church where we heard poignant witness of immigrants trying to build a better life for their families against insurmountable odds. Many Marines, National Guardsmen and vets are over on Threads and Substack expressinging their disagreement over being used by this lawless administration.

    Peace, shanti and shalom to all. ☮

    -Leslie Flood Hershberger

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    The reason trump won wasn't only the competition but a good percentage of American people want better immigration policy and procedures of which many administrations have shied away from. Like with anything there needs to be some control and solid management. There ism a reason that many hispanics and others voted for the dummy, they simply see how out of control the border has been w/o it being legit addressed. This shit going on now even will impact 26&28. Id like to see the some dem leadership speak out on not only trumps actions but to the trouble makers and vandels that set shit afire and loot.
     
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