Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

I wonder, we can easily question about 'correct people' and 'true democracy'.

Lets try a different game - instead of questions - I would like to hear people's optimal solution - how you guys reckon this middle east situation should conclude and how optimaly it can be achieved assuimng what you suggest happens.

 

Nope....im not mad at ya just dealing with ya. Saying that to me is worse than cussing me out. Back off

 

The destruction of their governments. Not their people. A simple Google search would show that. But why obsess over rhetoric when we can obsess over action? Israel, a nation who hides their nuclear program from the rest of the world, is actually causing destruction to other nations. Let's go after those who are actually doing it, then we can focus on those and their rhetoric.

 

I'm not a war correspondent and we're not in possession of war propaganda or damage reports. I'm also not on trial nor in court so I can have a good faith conversation without the lawyer schtick. To your knowledge.....I will accept when you say that...I'd expect the same courtesy when I speak from "my knowledge" I'm also not excusing Iranian aggression and bombing. They have no right to bomb civilians either although I know you're fishing for a double standard here..there isn't one.

 

I'm sorry you having the same position as Lindsay Graham makes you angry.

It makes me angry too.

 

If Iranians are highly educated, if they want a secular democracy, it's up to them. Like the colonists. Like the French who no longer wanted kings. Like South Korea when they didn't want military dictatorship. Like the Portuguese. Like the Spaniards who got sick of Franco. Like Italians who strung up Mussolini. I am all in favor of supporting any movement towards secular democracy, starting in this country, but revolution can't be imposed from without. That's not revolution, it's occupation.

 

What nation is Isreal causing destruction to? Please provide evidence..
If you mean the Palestinians - A. They are not a nation. They are a group of Arabs living as a minority in Israel that decided they want to identify as Palestinian and demand a land not theirs (that was 'stolen' from them).
B. The IRGC has nothing agains the Israeli administration. They wanted us dead when Rabin was at the Helm and want us dead when Bibi at the Helm - they want Jews / non muslims to die/convert.
So yeah - they are calling for genocide of the Israeli people. Not the country.
BTW - I have nothing against Palestinians and willing to give them 99.9% of the 1967 borders - but they just wont accept it. Beacuse they want all. They teach their kids and the world the they deserve all. (Did you see thier map? No Israel there.. )

 

I get what your saying and respectfully yes, Im assuming (Thats all anyone here can do) they would be better off, because the Iranian people want it, there just outgunned and persecuted in their own land. Like Im for providing Ukraine arms and what not to take down Putin. Why is it ok for Ukraine and not Israel?
France scared of the British navy toward the end and yes supported our revolution with arms and money. Glad they did so.
My wife and I know two couples from Iran, two are citizens now. From what they say its terrible there and they cant vote people in and out like here, as they are under shira law. Both Iranian ladies are pro women and women to the mullahs supreme wacko are just property for men and at their mercy.

 

Do you know the difference between the Iranian people and the IRGC? Kindly wikipedia it. ASAP please..

 

Your words carry weight. I am willing to provide evidence to anything I claim and of I learn I was wrong I will stand corrected.
You conflated between two different arenas - Gaza - in which a terror organistation is hiding under schools and temples, and Iran - which is a nation country that does not.
The whole warfare theme here should be and is different

 

Chinese maps don't show Taiwan as a sovereign nation...they call it Chinese Taipei, but Gaza and the Palestinians are in their homeland, as are the Taiwanese..they have their own roots and right to be there. I don't believe in the jihadist wars at all, but not all those folks are fundamentalist religious zealots..and the water rights are not shared fairly from what I've read...I'm not qualified to speak about most geopolitical issues in the region but it's been going on since I was a kid and so far only Carter brought them close to a peaceful co-existence. Escalation of tensions is only going to amplify the blood feud.

 

the only topic I conflated was Israel's relationship to Palestinians and Iranians...back to back bombing raids..of course they are different but militant religious nuts are in all 3 places from what I've seen. Israel had every right to defend itself from the attack last fall..they did that. Continuing to kill Palestinians as compensation went too far in my view. Nut jobs in Iran funding terror cells are also fair game in my view.

 

I hope you're safe in your home
I hope your loved ones are near
I hope you don't live in fear
I hope you're safe in your home

 

Iranian Jews have the same rights as Iranian Muslims in Iran. Unlike Arab Muslims in Israel. If the regime wants Jews to die/convert, why would Iran be the home of so many synagogues? Jews are a part of Iran's parliament with a guaranteed place at the table regardless of their minority status.

Again, a simple Google search would show this to you. I won't even waste my time with the rest of your downright demeaning rhetoric of an entire people.

 

Rich coming from a regime who created an apartheid state and are currently carrying out a genocide.

 

It's the lyrics to a song I wrote with my grandson this spring. He's 5.

 

If anyone has some trustworthy breaking news or info about this situation I'd love to read it and become more informed. The planet has had enough bloodshed.

 

Everyone can disregard the propaganda that Fluffy is spewing about Iran wanting to kill Jews or convert them to Islam.

 

I have appreciated your input even when I disagree because you have a perspective we do not. But I do not appreciate snide remarks. They are a poor substitute for debate.

 

Idk about breaking news, but I thought this brief synopsis was helpful in answering the question: "So why did Israel decided now was the time to take out Iran? Where they actually close to getting a nuke this time or where there other reasons?"