Camara extension

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    The 89 million (USD) is the max the Blazers can offer him - so no source is needed. I assume something just got misconverted with currencies or language.
     
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    If he was an UFA today I'd expect he'd sign for more. You just never see a 3&D player available on his 3rd year in the league - making all NBA defensive team and shooting 38% on 3s. Blazers can't offer him any more right now with the 2nd round pick rules. So that might be a good "discount" for both parties. Camara gets insurance for injury and has never had a big contract. Blazers save a bit on locking him up but take on some risk he will get hurt or decline next season.
     
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    for Camara the big incentive is he'd be making 21M in 2026-27 instead of 2.4M
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    What are we waiting for? Christmas?
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Camara wants to wait for next year and more $?

    Or Blazers trying to get it without player option?
     
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    and risk career-ending injury and the ability to set himself for life? that's a big gamble
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe the Blazers know this and are trying to get him to accept less dollars?

    If I'm Camara I hold firm at max 89 million as that's already below market rate.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I figured he would want to wait until next year.
     
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    Waiting one year

    pros: extra $20 mil?, player option?
    cons: career-ending injury

    Signing now

    pros: set for life financially (assuming he's prudent)
    cons: a little less richer, no player option?
     
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    I think it's a little more complicated than that

    yeah, there's always the chance of a career-ending injury. But how many career ending injuries are there, really? Now, cumulative injuries can certainly have an impact on a player's earning potential. But Camara hasn't been injury prone. He's played 70 & 78 games in his two seasons. But that 70 game mark is deceptive because the Blazers shut Camara down for 9 games to complete their tank. Otherwise, he would have played 79 and 78 games. He also played 32-25-34-34 games in college. So, he's been pretty durable

    there's also some fallacy involved in this: that being that he'd get more money if he waited a year for his extension. The false assumption in this is that he'd play that 5th season with an extension next year and that = more money. But, he'd play that 5th season anyway with an extension this summer. It would just be year 1 of his third contract. And by then he would have hit the 7th season threshold for veterans

    now, if you assume 22.3M a year for his extension this summer, then a 10% increase is likely for an extension next summer. So his annual salary would be 2.2M higher. Project that over 5 seasons and he's make 11M more waiting till next summer for an extension

    but here's the thing, if he signs an extension this summer, then his 2.4M option in 2026-27 is discarded and his new contract would start with close to a 21M salary instead of 2.4M. Waiting a season for the extension means he has to play for that 2.4M in 2026-27. And that 19M bonus for signing this summer beats the hell out of his 10% base salary bump with a later extension. Of course, that doesn't account for step raises, so it levels out some more

    but still, the biggest differential is what happens in 2026-27
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I'm sure Blazers have extended an offer. My guess is that Camara (ie - his agent) is the one holding up the process.

    Either side can kick the can down the road until next summer. He'd still be under contract for 1 additional year.

    Unfortunately there is a concern that he'd become an UNrestricted FA.... and has significantly more leverage (especially with more teams with projected cap space).
     
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    I thought without an extension Blazers could have Camara go as an UFA in summer 2027 or opt to have him as an RFA summer 2026 (in which case he wouldn't have a low earning year).

    In other words only way Camara has that low earnings year is if the Blazers are willing to risk him as an UFA.

    I'm not certain exactly how this works so someone else please feel free to confirm.
     
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    as I understand, can't do an extension unless there's at least one year left on the deal. Camara is in his 3rd season with a 4th season left on his deal. So he's eligible. Since there is a team option on the 4th year I believe by mutual agreement that remaining year can be discarded and replaced with the 1st year of an extension. But maybe I'm wrong about that
     
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    We traded Ant to clear the runway for Scoot and Sharpe. Show us who you really are. We need to know now what we have in you. So Sharpe's extension is not likely gunna come this offseason.

    However, extending Camara should be on the table now. Cronin and his agent are propably negotiating hard as we speak. It will likely the only offseason news we have left.
     
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    the issue with Sharpe has been he only shows all-star level talent for short stretches, then regresses. Young players are inconsistent but the ones that matter have taken steps to delete that inconsistency. I'm not sure Sharpe has taken enough of those steps

    so yeah, it's entirely possible that Portland will allow Sharpe to become RFA in 2026. There's a big risk in that, Cronin was around when the Blazers allowed Crabbe to become RFA and Brooklyn gave him that idiot offer sheet. Maybe some team will offer Sharpe 35M/year and then the Blazers will be facing a dilemma.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't Crabbe given a max?

    For Sharpe next summer that would be closer to 50M/year.
     
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    Different environment.

    Watch Kaminga. That will give you a good comparison for Sharpe.
     
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    no, Crabbe was signed for about 19.7% of the salary cap. An equivalent extension for Sharpe this summer would be around 30-31M. Next summer about 33-34M
     

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