Summer "BIG Swing" trade

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  1. inconceivable

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    They need a win-now center. What can they give us for DA?
     
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    Scraps and Knecht and a swap seems fair.

    I like the idea of sending Knecht to the Bulls to get our pick back.
     
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    IMG_7527.jpeg Small swing and I stole it off Reddit but i think Whitmore would be a Deni like trade.
     
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    I'm thinking the Lakers can't take back more salary than they send out
     
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    They can. They are still 4.3M under the first apron.
     
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    I think they'd potentially have a problem filling out the rest of their roster if they were to do a 3-1, 4-2 trade with us, though
     
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    Does Knecht get us our pick back? My gut says no.
     
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    I don't think taking back more salary than you send in a trade as long as it's within the 125% triggers that hard cap. So the Lakers couldn't use the MLE, BAE, sign-and-trade, or TPEs but they can still sign players with minimum contracts including vet mins.
     
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    Taking in more triggers the 1st apron.
     
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    Where does it say that? What I'm looking at says that if you exceed the 125% rule it triggers the first apron. I also see 110% after you hit the first apron triggering the second apron. Am I reading this wrong.

    The deal I proposed has a return of 107.5% going back to the Lakers. Where does it say that would trigger any hard cap at all?
     
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    https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2520/the-complicated-case-of-nba-bonuses-taxes-and-aprons

    First Apron Hard Cap Triggers

    • Signing a player to a contract via the Non-Taxpayer MLE that is greater than allowable via the Taxpayer MLE (years, salary or both)
    • Signing a player to a contract via the Bi-Annual Exception
    • Acquiring a player via Sign-and-Trade
    • Signing a player after a buyout if that player made more than the Non-Taxpayer MLE that season
    • Using more than 100% salary-matching in a trade
    • Using a TPE that was created in the prior season
     
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    Have to say been a fun off season. Lots of moving players and picks this year. Some real head scratchers
     
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    And that’s just Portland
     
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    If we think we can win now this would be the move imo. Yes we would probably have to add a pick(s) too but with Hali out next season maybe they wanna get off a little of Siakams money. Plus they just lost their Center.

    Jrue/Scoot
    Deni/Sharpe
    Camara/Thybulle
    Siakam/Murray
    Clingan/Yang/Reath

    Maybe Sharpe starts but either way that’s a good team. Still need a shooter though.
     
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    I predict this will happen, although it will require some first rounders on our part. I'm hoping no more than 2.

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    Utah will try to do better, which may push the trade back, but ultimately I think we'll be the most enthusiastic Markkanen suitor.

    Not sure how I feel about that. I mean, he's no Petteri Koponen...
     
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    If Utah will do this straight across -> I would consider it.

    BUT I would NOT add any picks to the deal.

    Talent level Lauri is slightly better than Grant (and he's likely a better fit). But when you consider contracts -> both Lauri & Grant are highly negative.
     
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    Lauri doesn't fit the defensive identity Cronin has acquired on every player lately.

    I do think the Blazers will consider a move like this at some point where we send out Grant/Jrue+picks for an upgrade. Might not be until the franchise is sold though.

    I don't think Cronin is doing that type of trade now.
     
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    Lauri is paid a ton and questionable on D. I think Utah overestimated his worth locking him up.

    Id say Lauri is worth more than Grant but I agree that they're both negative assets.
     

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