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You have to make public transportation faster than taking cars.

Nobody's going to take the train for public transport if it's going to take them two or three times longer than just driving.

I would absolutely take the train or public transit if it was faster and cheaper than driving.

 

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Public transit in the US is garbage compared to most of our peer countries.

 

California's been trying to build high speed rail since the '90s. I said '80s and I stand corrected. So 30 years. Japan built 350 some miles of high speed rail in 5 years.

That would get you from LA to Vegas and halfway back.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_California_High-Speed_Rail

 

Took BART to work every day when at Genentech. Without traffic driving was faster but there was traffic and paying toll. Genentech paid our transit so cost me nothing. Got a lot of reading done and didn't have to cope with traffic, parking, annoying drivers.

 

No point. Just referencing to help the discussion.

 

Nixon was brought down by what was called a third rate burglary. And completely unnecessary, he would have won re-election easily. Once investigation began into Watergate it uncovered the enemies list, the plots against Martin Luther King, etc. etc.

So yeah Trump is panicking. He makes Nixon look like an honest patriot. When you look under rocks, all kinds of creepy crawlies emerge.

 

When you have the Supreme court in your pocket you can get away with anything it seems. There's no fair accountability for the felon, liar, rapist and defamer of the constitution. I don't see that changing in the political climate these days. It's sad but unfortunately the state of the country. Fortunately, I can still vote in Oregon.

 

They built that stretch in the early '60s. In 5 years. I'm advocating that we do half as much in 80% of the time. Under the same president.

The point is that it can be done. Democrats are the party advocating for these things but they aren't getting them done.

Just saying it can't get done isn't enough. That's not working out very well for the Democrats (or any of us) at all.

It needs to change.

 

I already addressed those concerns. Emergency declarations can get past all of that.

If it's faster and cheaper than driving people will use it.

It could even take longer than one president as long as you had benchmarks that need to be met before funding was released. You could fund it under the original president and have the rest of the funds waiting an escrow with bonuses for on time completion.

And it's doesn't only apply to high speed rail. It also applies to rural broadband and other infrastructure projects.

And this certainly isn't the only way this can get done. But you actually have to have people in positions of power who actually want to get it done rather than just play politics.

These things haven't gotten done because Dems have been playing politics too much.

 

I wouldn't be offended if a mod were to move it to a separate thread.

That seems like it would be the cleanest solution if we don't want the two topics discussed in this thread.

 

For now.

 

Climate change is an emergency. So is the shrinking middle class and the homelessness that goes with it.

High speed rail helps by providing long term employment for many as well as more accessible transportation for the masses.

California has repeatedly voted to support it. There is plenty of demand. So have other regions.

You write it into the contract. Once it's in the escrow account it is out of congresses hands.

You make policy so popular that it would be political suicide to kill it. That's how social security lasted.

Exactly. That's stupid. Supporting a few overall policies would solve the problems of nearly all of these factions. Universal access to healthcare, education, and top quality social safety net.

I don't think replacing the democratic party solves anything. I've never suggested any such thing.

I've suggested they narrow their focus, refuse large donations and corporate donations and actually get shit done.

 

It absolutely helps address the emergencies mentioned. No question.

It's an argument for using emergency powers to address emergencies.

Except Trump is making up fake emergencies, I'm suggesting we address emergencies that have been proven with solutions which have been proven to address the aforementioned emergencies. Said solutions that have already been approved many times by voters in the state.

I'm certainly open to suggestions as to better alternatives. High speed rail is simply an example of the Dems failure to deliver.

voters have already approved high speed rail

Abso-fucking-lutely

1 (doing what voters want? Yes)
2 (fuck large donors)
as opposed to losing twice to a clown like Trump using the current strategy? You might want to try again.

It seems to me that you're advocating for the same strategy that lost to Trump twice. And you're making up reasons to do so.

Donald Trump. Think about that. You are suggesting that Democrats follow a strategy that has made them less popular than Donald Fucking Trump.