Wasn't Eric screaming at Cronin and crying when they traded Dame? Now we get him back for $0.20 on the dollar, plus assets and he's not happy? Geeze.
That's hyperbole. It's hard to have a serious conversation with you if this is where you're going to go. I get the emotions. Like I said, I don't want to be a wet blanket. It'd be nice if some posters would respect my opinion as much as I am respecting there, but I should know better than that. All I'll say, again, is it's a pretty simple premise: If you are giving more money to someone than you have to you have less to give to someone else. One can rationalize all the reasons they want otherwise. It doesn't change that. Going back to the only thing I said at the very beginning, Dame set conditions with the Blazers chose to either accept, deny, or negotiate. It looks like to some degree they put more weight on Dame's wishes than the team's growth, and they are allowed to do that and fans can choose to be fine with that or not. I see issues with it both in the short term and long term. I'm not going to argue the specifics of the my concerns with people just overjoyed to have him back tonight. All that does is make me a target for animus, and I don't need that. I'm a fan and I'm entitled to have an opinion on the matter, though, as much as anyone. I'm trying to be more respectful to others with how I choose to convey that at the moment.
I'm not sure this is correct. I thought I recall Ayton getting both his Blazers bought out amount plus $8mil Lakers salary.
You can go through all the trades and moves that you want. Fuck him. I don't like him. Let me have my opinion. Edit: When has an NBA star the caliber of Damian Lillard been waived and stretched? Right. Never happened before in the NBA. Cronin had no clue that was going to happen. He got lucky.
These are all just a bunch of your options. But your statement reads as though it's facts of what the Blazers or Dame did, which none of them are.
Shams said Dame will make 140 in the next two years. He is wrong. He was thinking 100 from the bucks and 40 from the blazers. The reality is the 114 remaining in his Bucks contract for the next two seasons is stretched into 23 per year for 5 years So Dame will make 25-26: 23 from bucks 14 from blazers 26-27: 23 from bucks 14 from blazers 27-28: 23 from bucks 14 from blazers if opted in 28-29: 23 from bucks 29-30: 23 from bucks
Yes. Blazers can sign Deni in summer 2028 and pay more than any other NBA team. But they can't give him a big extension prior to him being a free agent.
The stretch is the cap hit, not what the Bucks pay Dame. Dame gets his bucks salary in full the next two years.
Again, we gave up the MLE and got Dame in return, that seems like the best use of the MLE Portland has had in over a decade, maybe ever. We have some historic data of what we've got in return for the MLE in the past. Can you point to me a return, using the MLE that was better than Dame is likely to be? Nothing emotional about it from my end. I'm looking at the best free agent out there right now and I could speculate on what player making less than the MLE might trade for a trade exception later, and it's hard to come up with anyone who would be better than Dame is likely to be. Of course there is risk. There is risk Dame might be awful. There is a risk the person they might've used the MLE on other than Dame could be an all-star. However, the historic data suggests this is the best use of the MLE in recent history for Portland.
Yes, you are correct. Ayton agreed to take less to get out of his contract, but gets the full amount of what was agreed to plus the amount the Lakers are giving him. It turned out to be close to what he was scheduled to make.
because of Deni's existing contract in order to give Deni and extension, the Blazers could pay him 140% of the final guaranteed year of his deal. The final year salary is 11.875M meaning, the max the Blazers could pay Deni is 16.6M in base salary in 2028-29. Now they might be able to use the MLE to sign him, but that would be around 17M by then, maybe a little higher. Keep in mind that a max salary that season for a player of Deni's experience would be 60M the only way the Blazers could have given Deni, say, a 40M/year deal is to have that much in cap-space
Both of their contracts do expire and we can offer Deni more years than anyone else but I'm not sure if we can offer him more money if he doesn't make an all nba team. I'm not sure though. Something about how big of a raise a player can get might come into play. Regardless we'll have Deni's bird rights so wherever we're at as far as cap management won't come into play.
I think I'm following(ish). So did the Dame signing really impact their ability to offer Deni an extension he was likely to agree to this summer?
Deni isn't extension eligible. People are talking about the idea of giving him an extension in summer 2026 or 2027.
