Rebounding

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Is it going to be an issue? We weren't great at rebounding before and now we've unloaded two of our best rebounders (Ayton and Walker) and Yang is a mediocre rebounder at best. Can we play the way we want to play if we're getting outrebounded every game?
     
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    Camara Deni Clingan Jrue Timelord Scoot are all good rebounders. No I don't believe its an important issue. I'm not worried about this. Grant sucks and Yang is a mixed bag - thats fine for two of ten rotational players.

    Ayton would probably improve our rebounding - but his performance hurt 5x more in other areas of the game so overall we're much better off without him.

    Jabari yes is a great rebounder but worse offensively and slow footed defensively so again we're better off with our top12 players here instead of Jabari. I would've liked to have him as the 15th man in case of multiple injuries but hopefully thats not an issue. Maybe Deni even slides to C in small ball lineups if there are those injuries.
     
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    well, Ayton's last game was around the 10th of Feb, so take a look at the Blazer/opponent rebounding splits, month by month:

    November 43.1/46.3 - net -3.2
    December 41.5 /42.0 - net -0.5
    January 44.3 /44.1 - net +0.2
    February 44.6 /42.7 - net +1.9
    March 46.2/43.5 - net +2.7
    April 51.0 /47.0 - net +4.0

    Clingan was a better rebounder than Ayton; especially on the offensive glass. You can see Clingan's impact on the offensive glass as he became the full-time starter mid February:

    November 13.5
    December 11.3
    January 11.9
    February 12.4
    March 15.4
    April 16.7

    losing Walker may have a bit of an impact. But at the same time, Sharpe averaged nearly 2 more rebounds than Simons and Jrue has always been a solid rebounder so Portland's back court rebounding may offset what they lost in Walker
     
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    I’m worried about our 3 point shooting as much as rebounding.
     
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    Yeah generating quality offense in general is probably the main concern.

    I've never been less concerned with a Blazers defense in decades.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I know I’m the only one, but I miss us being the best offense/worst defense in the league. I knew that at any time we could OUTSCORE the opponent. Didn’t care if the other team went for 120…as long as we got 121 FAMS!
     
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    It can be fun when you have a young dynamic team with exciting scoring players. Lets say the Kings 3 years ago.

    When its veteran trio of DameCJMelo with mediocre Whitside/Nurk bigs I didn't find it entertaining at all.

    I prefer watching guys like Wes Matthews over Cj/Ant that contribute on both sides of the ball.

    I also prefer an unselfish team and you basically never have that when its a bunch of one dimensional scorers with crappy defense.
     
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    problem was, that offensive monster always got bounced out of the playoffs in the same way...not with a bang but a whimper. As soon as they went up against a real contender, their weak pretender shit was exposed

    look at how they bowed out of the playoffs over 8 straight seasons:

    1-4
    1-4
    1-4
    0-4
    0-4
    0-4
    1-4
    2-4

    Portland only won 4 series in 8 seasons and two of those were on walk-off three's by Dame

    the opponent formula was always the same: stop Dame and you can crush the Blazers. Opponents doubled, tripled, and trapped Dame all over the floor knowing that the rest of the Blazer rotation wouldn't make them pay for the Dame-centric defense. The only team that beat Portland not employing that defense was Denver in the last year Portland was in the playoffs. They went with straight coverage of Dame and he responded with an average of 34 points and 10 assists while shooting 46% on FG's and 45% on three's. But Denver bet the rest of the Blazer team wasn't talented enough on offense to win the series and they were right
     
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    I stopped reading right here…..at the word “PLAYOFFS”
     
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    You should have kept reading. The post was logical and detailed. To add, in the end, only playoff results really matter. Did you win the title? Sixty wins and top offense bounced in the second round. Not good.
     
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    Yep. And if we don't build a juggernaut then the big changes were absolutely worthless and a waste of time.

    Should have just kept trying to build around Dame until he retired.
     
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    about 312 dozen time I've see you talk about how much you miss the Blazers making the playoffs....back when they had that offense you just praised
     
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    Murray beat out Walker for minutes...he can rebound ..he's quicker and more athletic than Jabari was...all Murray needs is confidence in his shot.
     
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    Murray has a real quick second jump.
     
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    Both on rebounding and guys having a rebound year, I can see — at first — the starting lineup as:
    Jrue, Toumani, Grant, Deni, Clingan

    With starter minutes for Scoot and Sharpe (30) and with Jrue playing both guard spots and Toumani at 2/3/4 and Grant getting 30. Yang gets as many as he can handle up to 18-20.

    Jerami rebounds from a subpar last season.
    The big lineup provides D from h3ll, good rebounding, and 3’s will flow from the offense not as a starting point.
     
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