Hypothetical would you trade our future for win now team

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by 1 Eye Jack, Aug 8, 2025.

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Would you trade future for win now

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.
     
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    Whatever it's called, it's not enough, and I don't like it.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I'll bring it up to him again.

    Last time he looked into it he was going to have to pay a lawyer.

    I'm not sure.
     
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  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    I made an assumption he is in Oregon. If that is not the case it might be different. But in Oregon.
    Try here.
    https://clear-clinic.org/
     
  6. SharpeScooterShooter

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    He is in Oregon. I haven't spoken with him about it for several years. Maybe he's already gone this route and cleared it up?

    Thanks!
     
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    I just don't see it. Yes Camara has value and he can play defense but he certainly isn't going to win a game for you on the offensive side. To me he's a solid role player.
    This is like saying Aminu was the teams identity a few years ago. Maybe you could push back further and say Wesley Mathews was the teams identity at one point but wow they sure got rid of him fast when he got injured so maybe that was all hype?

    Right now the team has very little identity. That might be considered good. The (WE > ME) identity will win more games. Then remember they did just add Lillard and Holiday. So Identity again is a bit murky at best.
     
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    The OP stated... guaranteed to compete for championships... which I just don't see at all. Giannis needs to be surrounded by shooters, which Portland's roster lacks. Playing him with Clingan means every team will pack the paint cutting off his main plus ability of driving to the hoop. When paired with a pre-Achilles Dame the Bucks were not contenders & it's a near certainty Dame comes back well shy of that level of player. Giannis turns 31 midway through this season. His dominance has been mostly about superior athleticism not skills, which doesn't age well. So the best option presented is to throw away whats building for a short window, high floor/low ceiling & salary hell future? Can we send the Bucks back all the pick swaps too?

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    The OP says "Guaranteed to play for a championship the next two years". That part makes this an easy choice.
     
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    I think Camara’s instincts are far superior to Aminu’s in his prime(if he had one) I don't believe Aminu came close to making any all defensive teams?
    I think you are underestimating a defensive minded glue guy who can do it all on that side. Every team needs one and i think the elite ones are rarer than one might think.
     
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    After a fair amount of time on this board, can I now assume that the birds in the bush, are better than the birds in the hand?
     
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    Yeah but a cursory glance at this roster reveals thats fantastical thinking as Giannis's game is a poor match for what would be left. That was the whole point of my post

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    People are bored and fine with being untethered to reality to have something/anything to share their opinion on. This happens every offseason. Its just a fraction of the overall community here that still hangs during the summer lull, but whats funny is that some here begin to believe these wild scenarios they dream up actually hold water.

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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    That’s crazy. I have 37 kills confirmed while in the military and received medals for it. Life is nuts!
     
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    Thanks for your service!
     
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    I did get that. And yes I agree.
     
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    Yeah you honestly cannot count killing those burritos. That was a contest and we all know you won but why rub that in everyone's face.

    Thanks again for your service for realz fams.
     
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    That’s funny! No confirmed kills to speak of, just trying to intimidate rookies on here. Did see a couple friends go down here in the neighborhood BEFORE I served. That will always stick with you.
     
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