Politics CHARLIE KIRK SHOT IN UTAH

Erdogan faked a coup so that he could round up all his opponents. I have long said that Trump will do the same thing.

 

Two things can be true at once

 

Might edit this and respond to more, but Kushner paid tribute to Kirk by saying that he basically replaced the preexisting conference/organizer roles within the Republican Party in 2016, and took a lot of heat because of it. My only argument really about his rhetoric is that it was very typical mainstream MAGA stuff. People are sort of in a roundabout way saying that if you're a public Trump guy your family shouldn't be all that surprised to see you gunned down. It's not great messaging going into 2028 in my opinion. But truth be told, I don't know what is anymore.

 

Whenever a controversial political figure dies I am reminded of this sketch from "Not the Nine O'Clock News," a sketch show from the late 70s/early 80s (yes, that is Mr. Bean - this is how he became famous)

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...opy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

From the Atlantic. Make the point it's easy to condemn violence by your opponent. The test is condemning violence by your supporters.

 

I didn’t either. I had seen/heard his name before, but knew nothing about his political ideology.

 

No. Not at all. If you are knowingly spreading lies and misinformation publicly (and in fact amplifying the lies and disinformation on social media), in an attempt to harm other people or restrict their rights then you shouldn't be surprised if the people who are harmed come after you.

It just so happens that MAGA and Trump guy use to stay relevant.

They are going to have to change that if they want to see violence reduced. But I'm not sure they want to see that. In fact all indications lead me to believe that they want more violence. And since they are in power they are probably going to get it.

 

I bet it did.

 

I would argue your take here is highly problematic IMO.

'making yourself a target + what you say matters' - does not equal green light for violence.

But by omission - your statement actually insinuates exactly that:
That people who speak (spread lies) are valid targets for violence and should expect being shot / offended physically.

I would argue all here should oppose this logic.

If someone spreads lies - teach people to see through it. If someone manipulates words - put him in place and stand corrected.
If you have a set a values you believe in - teach others about it and offer them to join in shared values.

 

it only took the FBI engravers 44 minutes

 

Yes human and civil rights, healthcare for all and universal basic income. All evil ideologies. Not greedy enough.

 

I don't know why people are shocked by this. The GOP and Maga have control and they want to keep control forever. The only way to do that is to seize control. They were always evil but this is their opportunity to take over America.