Politics CHARLIE KIRK SHOT IN UTAH

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So I had heard of this guy before but I had never watched him before. He's a hard person to watch.
     
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    THE HCP, Sep 11, 2025 at 9:43 PM
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    Does this even move the needle to help discourse of gun safety? It happened to one of their own.

    I hope so.
     
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    Well, if anything, this is what anti-gun people have wanted. They used a bolt action. One shot and one kill. This is exactly what they have wanted! Not a mass shooting. I don't think there's many laws that would have prevented that.
     
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    If you're talking about Kirk, yes, he was very difficult to listen to because he tries to come off much smarter than he is. Actually, many of the people in power right now do that.

    It's maddening how many of those in charge of MAGA are walking examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
     
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    I don't like the illusion of "just trying to have a conversation" when they repeatedly cut people off, act combative, and talk down to people. That's not a conversation. But it's not surprising because that's how Trump talks.
     
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    He was in the other videos that I saw of Kirk speaking. Clearly a bodyguard.
     
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    And then they project everything.

    Yeah, there are lefts who are a bit loony, but they pale in comparison to the right. Both in quantity and veracity.

    They just figured they'll talk louder and faster and that's all they have to do to be correct.

    (tbf, I don't like how Dean Winther does that when he gets donations from the people watching his show, and he's trying to just mock the person he's talking to. Granted, most of the time the person he's talking to will say incredibly stupid shit that doesn't deserve the oxygen it requires to spew it)
     
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    No. They are going to blame the left. Even if it turns out that the person is a registered Republican. They'll just say the guy was gay or trans! So obviously left.

    None if them are actually interested in curbing gun violence anyway. It's far more profitable to argue about it.

    There will be no meaningful movement on gun rights unless fair elections are a thing of the past.
     
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    Let's say the guy is a Republican. It wont change their minds, because they've already made up their minds of his political affiliation.

    But imho, him being a Republican doesn't mean all Republicans are bad...but they will all say that if he IS a liberal/trans/whatever scapegoat they're going after now, then EVERYONE on the left is that way.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    Yeah, I don't not getting the both side stuff on this.

    I can't recall any Dem leader spewing propaganda about locking up or harming people. Or celebrating acts of violence.

    This is a MAGA/Q thing
     
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    "All signs point to Israel"

    A single post in this forum.

    1. Is a lie. Check.
    (All? Signs)
    Maybe some. Maybe few. nope - All signs.

    2. Trying to convice others - check.

    3. Seems to me saying something like that is in actuallity claiming to know what happened (without actually engaging in debate proposing what you are basing your claim upon).

    Yeah - if I follow cadance brown who hates Israel - her signs will direct the blame to Israel, just the same if I follow some Maga media person the blame will be pointed to left woke democrats. Again - all I am saying this point blame/fingers at sides right now is the exact thing that lead to decisive and hatefull discussion.
    A petry dish for conspiracies.
    I wish not to be included in this narrative, but I will point out when someone is taking it too far.
    If someone here said

    All signs lead to Maga
    All signs lead to Woke left
    All signs lead to Qatar
    All signs lead to liberals
    All signs lead to queers

    I would still call it out. Hope for it to be called out by others.
    I happen to be Israeli so the specific post resonated with me a bit more..
     
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