Politics CHARLIE KIRK SHOT IN UTAH

I love all these people saying "we got him." No, he turned himself in. You didn't "got" nothin'

 

If memory serves, I think the OT was supposed to be off limits for a certain poster...

 

See - RFK was right! It IS video games!

 

your refusing to admit that scientists can have agendas is not honest dialogue.
You are continuously making this about me and overstepping the foundation of what i said.
You are claiming im doing something harmful Im asking/ stating open and honest dialogue with full disclosure is the only way to improve and you are saying im being harmful to the country…

Thats not honest dialogue. Thats trying to single me out in a conversation that had nothing to do with me and everything to do with the average persons response to political violence.

 

Tell you what, Spencer - how about you MAKE it a watershed moment by being the first modern Republican to advocate for gun control? I won't hold my breath.

 

I don't care anymore but thanks for proving my point. Incapable of having open and honest dialogue. So mute me. Ban me.
How sad that an individual cant bring up the need for open and honest dialogue from both side without being attacked and wanted silenced.

how incredibly sad. Thanks for proving my point.
I probably shouldnt give any public speeches. Might be a target for people wanting to silence those wanting to engage in this extremely huge topic.

Seems familiar….

 

You aren't interested in open and honest dialogue. You're too busy trying to disrespect the scientific community.

I've already agreed that we need open and honest dialog. You are advocating for it yet refusing to engage in.

Just like Charlie Kirk would do.

 

Do you believe all scientists are true and dont have agendas, if so, then how do you explain the conflicting scientific reports of covid?
Im not busy doing anything but discussing whats going on.

But instead of answering these questions, keep pointing the finger and claim I'm the one not wanting open and honest dialogue…

 

When did you agree? Please repost it cause im not seeing it. Must have missed it. And if you did agree then what the heck are we going round and round for? What more was there for you to say you agree we need open and honest dialogue? Cause thats all my original post said that you responded to.

 

Oh FFS. Of course scientists have viewpoints. They are human. But science is self correcting. You have to provide evidence that can be tested. Not just proclaim.

That scientists did not all agree, especially initially, on Covid is because it's science, not religion. Faced with something new, there were multiple hypotheses. That's what science is. When more data becomes available you get more consensus. That's also what science is. Why it differs from religion and conspiracy theories.

When random dude on Facebook claims to know more about viruses than Dr. Fauci, I don't waste time. When brain worm, who has zero understanding of mitochondria, claims he can diagnose "mitochondrial disease" (no such thing) by looking at people's faces, I don't waste time. Because "both sides" are not equally valid.

And yes, I have biology degree with graduate work in microbiology and spent much of my working life with scientists.

 

The shooter wasn’t a trans, antifa, or left wing. He was a terminally online incel with brain rot from the internet.

Writing “if you’re reading this your gay, lmaooo” like the whole thing is a joke just shows how unserious we have become.

Also our enemies, both foreign and domestic, just took notes on how bad our FBI is right now.

 

This is what you claim was an agreement to what i said?

 

We already have gun control. Can you be specific about what you're advocating for?

Trump literally enacted the bump stock ban. Countless Republicans have supported red flag laws.

There's no gun law that is going to change any of this. Reducing gun crime does nothing if you aren't reducing violent crime.

The most effective way to reduce violent crime is to improve access to education and health care and social services.

The gun control debate is simply a red herring designed to confuse the population and extract campaign funds from them. Much like the abortion debate.

The Constitution is clear. We have the right to bear arms. We have the right to abortion.

We should Just listen to the Constitution and focus on the best ways to provide Universal Education, Universal Healthcare, and a more robust and efficient social safety net.

Of course, we already know exactly how to provide the best universal health care by instituting Bernie Sanders Medicare For All plan which would be the best health care in the world and cost less than our current health care system.

Of course we could also try to pattern our education system after Finland, but I'm not sure how that transition work since we have so many uneducated parents.

To further help reduce the threat of gun crime in school I would suggest ramping up staff trained in mental health care as well.

38 states have been expanding ease of access to firearms. We're not going to make any significant changes on gun control unless we become a fully authoritarian country.

Gun voters are single issue voters. Republicans will not win primaries if they run on gun control.

 

Open and honest dialog while ignoring the scientific community is not possible.

Then you just resort to discussing which magician is better. And I don't believe in magicians.

 

Lol I was just making an observation.

 

What are you talking about? No on is ignoring the scientific commumity. The only ignoring going on is that scientists are also humans and can have agendas. Not all of course. But yes. Some do. So do teachers. So do politicians. So do cops. Guess whst? So do religious clergies and parents. We all have agendas. And we are all human. Are the vast majority of teachers and scientists on the up snd up? Sure. 100%? Only a fool would believe that. And only someone who isn't interested in honest dialogue would dismiss that and make the debater the target like you have done.

 

He probably didn’t hate Kirk. Kirk was just the easiest person for him to target. Who else is going to bumfuck Utah?

We have a real problem with mental illness due to social media and the internet.