Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

Let me be 100% clear. Benjamin Netanyahu is absolutely 100% a sadistic killer and torturer of children.

When he gave those orders he knew 100% that children would be tortured and murdered based on his order. He knew with 100% certainty that it was not necessary, except for him to keep his position (which he has only held on to by corrupt means).

Absolutely, 100%, Benjamin Netanyahu is absolutely a sadistic piece of shit who ordered the murder and torture of children. Every bit as bad as Hitler or Stalin (even if he's been less successful than Hitler thus far).

I hope that he spends the rest of his life in jail, and I hope that jail sentence starts as soon as is humanly possible.

Is that clear enough?

 

The fact that Netanyahu has been prevented from authoritarian power in a way that Hitler was not is no credit to Netanyahu. That is a credit to the strength of Democracy.

Netanyahu was a corrupt war criminal long before October 7th, 2023. Since then he is only proven without a doubt that he deserves punishment to the fullest extent of the law.

 

Show me evidence of kids being tortured due to Bibi decision.

You do realise that calling of 'famine' or 'genocide' and blaming Bibi for it is problematic.
By doing so you choose to ignore the culprit - Hamas.

It is like someone is intruding your house at night, rapes and kills your wife, kills you kids, runs away afterwards - and nothing happens. He can go on with his life.
You turn to the police and they tell you - we know who it is - he just wanted the release some steam. Nothing we can help you with sir.

Hamas is using the west views and their own population to evoke this 'oppressed' narrative.. turtured narrative..
You dont want to be under attack? Release the hostages and lay your arms..
You want to keep fighting? Dont come back crying 'Im being opressed here.. '

 

For what it's worth I'm relieved that the war is declared over and the hostages are returned. Hopefully history doesn't have to repeat itself. Blood feuds are never formulas for peace. Need a two state solution, not another occupation.

 

I am glad hostages being freed. I wonder if more would be alive had Netanyahu inflicted collective punishment on Gaza. I will be glad if/when bombing stops.

 

I didn't blame any famine on Benjamin Netanyahu.

I don't care if every individual who committed terrorist atrocities for Hamas dies. They deserve the exact same punishment that Benjamin Netanyahu does. They are the same.

Except in this scenario that's not what happened. In this scenario Israel went and tortured and killed other neighbors who had no control over those actions.

If I did that in your scenario that would make me a bad guy and every bit as culpable as the people who broke in to my house and killed my family.

You don't just get to lash out at innocence because somebody hurt you.

The vast majority of the people who were killed in the Gaza attacks had nothing to do with that, and had no control over the hostages.

 

But that is where this argument looses it grasp.

Lets say Hamas had/has control over the hostages (which they do).
And lets say Palestinians civs in Gaza had nothing to do with that.
Acording to your logic there is no pressure / no action that can be done to fight Hamas.
Beacause once civillians are being hurt you lose legitimacy fighting - is that correct?
I, on the other hand - see the Palestinians civilians just as responsible as Hamas.
It is called a civil war once you disagree with your leaders.
Israel is close to that (Bibi and his Judicinal revolution plans), USA is close to that (Trump and troops to Portland)..
But in Gaza? Hamas hides in tunnels and all Gazans do is cry.
How about denoucing violence? How about calling for peace and calling out you dont want to destroy Israel?
How many Gazans want 'from the river to the sea? I reckon most. What does this chant mean? That they want me dead.
I really am pro Palestinians having Gaza and turning it to Dubai resort, but the sad truth and fact of the matter is - they are being educated as a society that Israel is the cause for all their problems, that jews are bad and all israel should and will be destroyed inshalla..
Sorry but IMO you leave me no choice, either you fix your own society by stopping this violent hatefull religious rhetoric, or I take your firearms by force so I can be safe.
I on the other hand - will fight and educate against the views of Israeli smotriches and ben gvirs that are now surging due to the devisive nature of the conflict.. (they are minority 10% of israeli poluation agree with their views)..

 

No. None of that gives legitimacy to the response that has been given. Killing 3% of the population is not acceptable or necessary for a crime committed by a few thousand extremists.

Israel could have offered a better alternative than Hamas. But Netanyahu didn't want to. He supported Hamas for just this reason. He propped them up so they could be as scary as possible to Israel so he could retain power.

He helped educate people to hate Israel.

He is an evil piece of shit. Every bit aa bad as Hamas. So are Trump and Putin.