<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ Aug 10 2006, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 10 2006, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From a person that doesn't eat breakfast, my responsesI used I'm feeling lucky from your link jeefunk.http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=7I. Children who eat breakfast perform better on standardized achievement tests and have fewer behavior problems in school.I'm generally a straight A student and I don't have attitude problems or start fights.II. Eating breakfast has an advantageous effect on late-morning mood, satiety and cognitive performance.My late-morning mood is usually boredom and fatigue. I had A lunch at 10:45 last year and this year for a semester so no a problem with satiety. My cognitive performance is fine all day until probably my last period when I want to get out of school.III. Eating breakfast keeps you thin.I'm 5'7" 120 lbs 10% body fat. Wouldn't eating breakfast make you fat though considering you intake butter, calories, fat, carbs and you basically sit there in school and the only burning you do is writing and thinking?IV. Breakfast is delicious.I'll agree to this. Pancakes, french toast, some cereals, bacon, eggs, sausage are good but not good enough to convince me to eat.Really, it's just opinion. People can say what they want to say about breakfast but it's not 100% necessary and the most important meal of the day.</div>It's not opinion. It's fact determined by studies done by prestigious universities. The facts are based on a statistical analysis of a population of people. Just because you might be outside of the norm doesn't make it an opinion-based matter.</div>Statistical analysis does not make anything fact. Statistical analysis is in fact opinion. Especially analysis of brain activity.People can draw very different conclusions from the same set of data. Say someone scored a 90 on a test one day but then a 50 the next day. One person could say must have had an emotional breakdown. The next person could say that test was harder than the previous one. A 3rd person could say the person didn't study as hard this time or simply didn't comprehend the information. A 4th person could say the person was fatigued. The 5th person could say well, maybe they had were just sick. Theoretically, there are an infinite amount of reasons why a certain set of data is that way.Most data is taken over days, no matter how much data you take, comparing it to the "control" isn't exactly correct cause even the control had outside factors contributing to it. Also, giving "similar" tests is a bad way to compare one day being sharp and the next day not being sharp. Having the exact same questions, people naturally will try to solve them so if they did give the same test, obviously they would score higher. However, if you give them different tests, the test would vary in difficulty, no test is the same difficulty. Comparing children taking the same test is another problem. No kid has the same brain as the other kid. They'll approach things differently, solve problems differently, write different essays, etc.While I know they try to control things as much as possible, it's impossible to have a controlled environment where only you control the factors that affect a person.The only way to have a perfect statistical analysis is to have data of the same person times infinity in different circumstances.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 11 2006, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ Aug 10 2006, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Aug 10 2006, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From a person that doesn't eat breakfast, my responsesI used I'm feeling lucky from your link jeefunk.http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article.asp?articleid=7I. Children who eat breakfast perform better on standardized achievement tests and have fewer behavior problems in school.I'm generally a straight A student and I don't have attitude problems or start fights.II. Eating breakfast has an advantageous effect on late-morning mood, satiety and cognitive performance.My late-morning mood is usually boredom and fatigue. I had A lunch at 10:45 last year and this year for a semester so no a problem with satiety. My cognitive performance is fine all day until probably my last period when I want to get out of school.III. Eating breakfast keeps you thin.I'm 5'7" 120 lbs 10% body fat. Wouldn't eating breakfast make you fat though considering you intake butter, calories, fat, carbs and you basically sit there in school and the only burning you do is writing and thinking?IV. Breakfast is delicious.I'll agree to this. Pancakes, french toast, some cereals, bacon, eggs, sausage are good but not good enough to convince me to eat.Really, it's just opinion. People can say what they want to say about breakfast but it's not 100% necessary and the most important meal of the day.</div>It's not opinion. It's fact determined by studies done by prestigious universities. The facts are based on a statistical analysis of a population of people. Just because you might be outside of the norm doesn't make it an opinion-based matter.</div>Statistical analysis does not make anything fact. Statistical analysis is in fact opinion. Especially analysis of brain activity.People can draw very different conclusions from the same set of data. Say someone scored a 90 on a test one day but then a 50 the next day. One person could say must have had an emotional breakdown. The next person could say that test was harder than the previous one. A 3rd person could say the person didn't study as hard this time or simply didn't comprehend the information. A 4th person could say the person was fatigued. The 5th person could say well, maybe they had were just sick. Theoretically, there are an infinite amount of reasons why a certain set of data is that way.Most data is taken over days, no matter how much data you take, comparing it to the "control" isn't exactly correct cause even the control had outside factors contributing to it. Also, giving "similar" tests is a bad way to compare one day being sharp and the next day not being sharp. Having the exact same questions, people naturally will try to solve them so if they did give the same test, obviously they would score higher. However, if you give them different tests, the test would vary in difficulty, no test is the same difficulty. Comparing children taking the same test is another problem. No kid has the same brain as the other kid. They'll approach things differently, solve problems differently, write different essays, etc.While I know they try to control things as much as possible, it's impossible to have a controlled environment where only you control the factors that affect a person.The only way to have a perfect statistical analysis is to have data of the same person times infinity in different circumstances.</div>I know what you're saying, but once the sample reaches a certain size, it accounts for all of that and can then be presented as factual information on the general population. There's no way around it. People who eat breakfast every day are statistically more likely to be healthier, thinner, and better workers/students.
When I've got school, I usually eat a bagel, or some cereal. And then I down it with a glass of milk.
