<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crazyrocketfan05 @ May 24 2006, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes it is they think killing people is good</div> who does?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crazyrocketfan05 @ May 24 2006, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes it is they think killing people is good</div>You're on my top 2 list for dumbest people in this thread.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crazyrocketfan05 @ May 24 2006, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes it is they think killing people is good</div>Would you mind backing it up with proof? Um, in case you didn't know, there are more murders committed by Christians in this country than by Muslims, so does that consequently make Christianity evil as well?Anyway, what Waqas said about the Bible talking about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) being sent by Allah is true. Copies of the original Gospels of the apostles of Jesus (pbuh) confirm the teachings of the Quran. Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were discovered in 1947, were "hid" in Israel for close to 45 years after they were discovered. When they were released, they too confirmed the Quran and its teachings. It foretells the coming of TWO Messiahs... one being Jesus (pbuh) and the other being Muhammad (pbuh). But later on, those people who "believe" that Islam is "corrupt" and all "lies" try to explain this by making something up saying that the scrolls don't fortell the coming of two Messiahs, rather they say that ONE messiah will be sent down, but he will have two different personalities. The Quran also speaks of Jesus, the Virgin Mary, the Bible, and everything else, and explains why and how the holy books of those religions that God had previously sent down were corrupted by mankind, and if they weren't corrupted, the text in all the holy books would be the same as the Quran.So really, if you want to believe that Islam is "evil," then you must also believe that every other religion (including Christianity and Judaism) is evil as well, since they all preach the same thing. Atleast the words in the Quran were not altered by mankind, and they never will be.
Also, bin Laden did NOT do 9/11. Alrite, look, why are gas prices getting so high? America's government is getting oil from Iraq for very cheap prices, I'm guessing, and they're being greedy!but my main point...If the Pentagon was a fake (Which it seems to be), there is NOTHING wrong with me saying the Jews or the American government condemned 9/11.BUT THERE IS MORE...I just found out today an ISLAMIC MIRACLE came to me. Last year, I went to bed without Wudhu (it's like cleaning hand, feet, and head before you pray or read Quran), and today I learned that if you DO do Wudhu before you sleep, you will get accuracy on anything possible in your future. And if you do NOT, you might get a wrong dream!So, last year, I'm SURE I didn't have Wudhu when I went to sleep, and in my dream, I saw Dirk Nowitzki as a Maverick against Steve Nash as a Sun in the NBA FINALS (well, when I woke up, I figured out it should've been Western Conference Finals). Then, after the first half, the announcer guy at Phoenix (this game was at Phoenix, and remember, this is a DREAM), convinced a Michael Finley of Dallas (this dream took place before the season started) to go in this elevator. Well, while the elevator went up, the thing blew up, and Dirk got mad, and Nash was laughing and happy.Then, Dirk came up clutch for a win.Now, look at right now....Finley going into the elevator and dying was Dallas actually beating Finley as a Spur in the semifinals!The NBA Finals was actually the West Finals, even though I knew it must've been that when I woke up.And Steve Nash of Phoenix is going against Dirk of Dallas!I'm just shocked with some random thing that was in the back of my mind coming up to me after I heard about the dream.That is why Islam is completely TRUE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 24 2006, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would you mind backing it up with proof? Um, in case you didn't know, there are more murders committed by Christians in this country than by Muslims, so does that consequently make Christianity evil as well?Anyway, what Waqas said about the Bible talking about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) being sent by Allah is true. Copies of the original Gospels of the apostles of Jesus (pbuh) confirm the teachings of the Quran. Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were discovered in 1947, were "hid" in Israel for close to 45 years after they were discovered. When they were released, they too confirmed the Quran and its teachings. It foretells the coming of TWO Messiahs... one being Jesus (pbuh) and the other being Muhammad (pbuh). But later on, those people who "believe" that Islam is "corrupt" and all "lies" try to explain this by making something up saying that the scrolls don't fortell the coming of two Messiahs, rather they say that ONE messiah will be sent down, but he will have two different personalities. The Quran also speaks of Jesus, the Virgin Mary, the Bible, and everything else, and explains why and how the holy books of those religions that God had previously sent down were corrupted by mankind, and if they weren't corrupted, the text in all the holy books would be the same as the Quran.So really, if you want to believe that Islam is "evil," then you must also believe that every other religion (including Christianity and Judaism) is evil as well, since they all preach the same thing. Atleast the words in the Quran were not altered by mankind, and they never will be.</div>That's how you say it brotha :worthy:
Yeah, and a dream I had almost a YEAR ago actually showed me an Islamic miracle! And that dream was about the MAvs!!! Read my other post.
THANK YOU for believing in me, man. And I am dead serious. I just learned some stuff about Islam yesterday, then that MAvs thing just came to my head. This is a lifelong lesson, though. I'm going to start doing Wudhu before sleep every night, and if anybody comes about relating to ISlam, I'll share it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ May 24 2006, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is why Islam is completely TRUE.</div> That's stretching in there... but yeah, things/dreams/visions, or whatever you want to call it, like that do happen. I know I've had some crazy things in my dream come true and a whole lot of other stuff which would be too crazy and long too explain.
Islamic people are definately not evil. But for one thing the fundamendalists are very stupid. They hate our government and they think that blowing themselves up and killing innocent Americans is a great way to make a point. The way islamic fundamentalists just casually get involved with kidnappings, killings, and suicide bombs is absolute insanity. They give the honest, hard-working Islamics a bad name.
I'd like to know where it says in Isaiah of the coming of 2 messiahs from the dead sea scrolls in BigMo's post. I want some backup before I start believing anything here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ May 25 2006, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still don't get what Messiah means, lolz. The last prophet?</div>Messiah basically means prophet, or leader, etc. Check it up on Wikipedia.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ May 24 2006, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to know where it says in Isaiah of the coming of 2 messiahs from the dead sea scrolls in BigMo's post. I want some backup before I start believing anything here.</div>I am a little confused in what you are saying here. Could you please clarify? If you were trying to say that you wanted evidence as to the Dead Sea Scrolls foretelling the two Messiahs (Jesus and Muhammad), then here is some evidence:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Those who have studied the scrolls have noticed a common theme prevalent throughout these manuscripts, that is, most of the pesher texts prophesies the coming of a "Teacher of Righteousness" who will be sent by God to the Jews. This "Teacher of Righteousness" will be opposed by the "Teacher of Lies" and the "Wicked Priest".These scrolls also predict the coming of two messiahs. These two messiahs are referred to as a1) priestly and a2) temporal messiahWhat we had here was a society of very devout Jews who were convinced that the time of the coming of the two messiahs was at hand, therefore, they set about preparing for their advent by detaching themselves from the mainstream society, and dedicating their lives to their worship and the preparation for their imminent arrival.In The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, by Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise, we read that the early scrolls spoke of two messiahs, but that later on, the communities of the Jews began to combine them into one messiah: "As we have suggested, contrary to the well-known 'two-Messiah' theory of early Qumran scholarship, these references to the 'Messiah of Aaron and Israel' in the Damascus Document are singular not plural... and one possible explanation for it is that it is evoking a Messiah with both priestly and kingly implications, like the somewhat similar recitations of Hebrews" (The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered, Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise, p. 162)."According to the dominant view in the sectarian texts from Qumran, two messiahs were to lead the congregation in the End of Days, one priestly, and the other lay" (Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls, Lawrence H. Schiffman, pp. 321-322).The Jews had prophesies of two messiahs. The first was best known to them for his "religious" or "priestly" works which he would perform. The second was best known to them for his "kingly" works; his bringing of an epoch of peace.These two prophesies refer to Jesus (pbuh) and Muhammad (pbuh).Jesus (pbuh) was best know for his "priestly" works. However, he never lead an army, and he never established a kingdom or a government. Quite the opposite, he called to peace and submissiveness and to leave the rule of the land to others (Matthew 22:21). He told his followers that he yet had many things to teach them but they could not bear them yet and that another would be coming after him who would teach them the complete truth (John 16:7-14).Muhammad (pbuh) too began his ministry preaching submissivness and passiveness. However, his ministry was nurtured by God almighty to a point where it was able to defend itself and establish justice in the earth and abolish evil. His followers fought several wars in self defense and against injustice. The Islamic empire finally stretched from China to Spain and even those who did not follow Muhammad (pbuh) knew him well. However, what did they know him for? They knew him for his "kingly" actions and not for the "priestly" side of him that his followers knew."And fight against them until persecution is no more and religion is for God alone. But if they desist then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers" --The Qur'an, al-Baqarah(2):193"Those unto whom We gave the Scripture recognize him Muhammad as they recognize their sons. But verilly, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it" --The Qur'an, al-Baqarah(2):146Over time, the prophesies of the Jews began to become a little blurred, and this in addition to the continuous persecution of many nations towards the Jews eventually lead to their blending of these prophesies into one single prophesy and their aggrandizing of this one all- conquering wondrous event that would finally relieve them of their persecution and pave the way for them to march forth conquering all nations, and establishing themselves as the protectors of the kingdom of God.For this reason, when we read the Gospel of Barnabas, we find that when the Jews ask Jesus (pbuh) whether he is "the messiah" he replies that he is not "the messiah" that they are expecting."Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." --Matthew 10:34-35This is because he understood their question. They were not asking him for his title, rather, they wanted to know whether he was the one who would finally fulfill all of their prophesies of leadership, power, and grandeur that they had been waiting for so many centuries. For this reason, he told them that he was not "the messiah", but that "the Messiah" they were waiting for would not come until later. He was referring to the SECOND messiah in their prophesies. (the Jews had expectations of three prophecies to be fulfilled)</div>Source: http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparati...ls_dead_sea.htmThere is more of that all over the internet...
Of course we are evil. All of us Muslims and semi-Muslims have been planning and planning our attack on Tony for almost a year. BBW will parish.
