Colts are 94!!!!But Anthony Gonzales only being 77 is a ripoff. I think he could be ROY. I'd give him just as high of a rating as Calvin Johnson. There is no doubt in my mind Gonzalez is gonna be a great player, not only because of Peyton, but because of his great work ethic and physical abilities
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 13 2007, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But Anthony Gonzales only being 77 is a ripoff. I think he could be ROY. I'd give him just as high of a rating as Calvin Johnson. There is no doubt in my mind Gonzalez is gonna be a great player, not only because of Peyton, but because of his great work ethic and physical abilities</div>WTF?? High as CJ? CJ is a 6-5 WR with blazing speed and amazing hands...Gonzalez is not close in terms of skills with Calvin Johnson...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 13 2007, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Colts are 94!!!!But Anthony Gonzales only being 77 is a ripoff. I think he could be ROY. I'd give him just as high of a rating as Calvin Johnson. There is no doubt in my mind Gonzalez is gonna be a great player, not only because of Peyton, but because of his great work ethic and physical abilities</div>You can't say that Gonzales is going to win the OROY award if he has a great career. Do you honestly believe he's going to get enough playing time and touches with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai all on the same field?? Think again. Even Sidney Rice has more of a shot at winning OROY than Gonzales.The Bills are a lowly 67.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (808Hornetsfan @ Jul 13 2007, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can't say that Gonzales is going to win the OROY award if he has a great career. Do you honestly believe he's going to get enough playing time and touches with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai all on the same field?? Think again. Even Sidney Rice has more of a shot at winning OROY than Gonzales.</div>Anthony Gonzales is the 3rd WR. Peyton loves to spread the ball. Near 1000 recieving yards would be a legitimate estimationh for him. seriously
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 13 2007, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Gonzales is the 3rd WR. Peyton loves to spread the ball. Near 1000 recieving yards would be a legitimate estimationh for him. seriously</div>Stop being so ignorant and listen to yourself for a second, when has three Colts receivers ever surpassed 1,000 yards other than the '04 season? Not once, you can't be such a homer that you actually believe a young rookie WR has a better shot at getting 1,000 yards and OROY while being third or fourth on the DC... Like I said before, Wayne, Harrison, Addai and Clark will be the number one threats for Peyton Manning, he's not going to need anyone else in that group unless one is injured. If you haven't noticed, Manning doesn't need to put up huge numbers for his team to be successful.
Gonzalez won't be as good as Stokely his first season, and definitely not as good as C. Johnson who will probably be the first receiver there.
49ers are an 82 overall...Frank Gore should be a 90's rated RB, and Larry Allen & Bryant Young should both be at least 85's
I got this from somebody in my Madden league; got it from the same site I believe...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Sportsgamer..who annually puts out the ratings early with IGN...has put up a few key team players up on their site...FalconsMike Vick-91 overallWarrick Dunn-92 overallNorwood-85 overallCrumpler-92 overallHall-97 overallChris Housten-81 overallJimmy Williams-77Lawyer Milloy-83 overallSaintsDrew Brees-95 overallReggie Bush-90 overall 99 SpdMcallister-93 overallColston-91 overallHenderson-84 overallWill Smith-94 overallCharles Grant-91 overallRobert Meachem 79 overallRamsBulger-94 overallSteven Jackson-97 overallTorry Holt-98 overallIssac Bruce-89 overallDrew Bennet-87 overallRandy McMichael-87 overallTYe Hill-85 overallOJ -82 overallLeonard Little-94 overallTinoisamoa-89 overallDraft-85 overallPatsTom Brady-98 overallLawarance Maroony-89 overallRandy Moss-93 overall-97 speedDante Stallworth 86 overall-97 speedKelley Washington-78 overallBen Watson-89 overallAdalius Thomas-94 overallTedy Bruschi-90 overallMike Vrabel-90 overallRosevelt Colvin-90 overallJunior Seau-83 overallAsante Samual-94 overallEllis Hobbs-87 overallRodney Harrison-94 overallEugene Wilson-88 overallAll 5 linebackers are smart or brick wall weapons.EaglesMcNabb-96 overallWestbrook-94 overallReggie Brown-86 overallHank Baskett- 80 overallKevin Kurtis-83 overallLJ Smith-89 overallJavon Kearse-92 overallBrodrick Bunkley- 80 overallJerimiah Trotter-93 overallLito Shepperd-92 overallSheldon Brown-90 overallBrian Dawkins-98 overall</div>Reggie got 99 SPD!!
Thanks for posting.Cowboys are 87, fine with me I guess. I'm interested to see what raiting they give Romo. I think Peterson should be a point or two higher. They gave Lynch 83 and Peterson 85. Peterson is much better than Lynch and he only got 2 points higher.That sucks about Quinn. But for being gay you deserve a 77
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (808Hornetsfan @ Jul 13 2007, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stop being so ignorant and listen to yourself for a second, when has three Colts receivers ever surpassed 1,000 yards other than the '04 season? Not once, you can't be such a homer that you actually believe a young rookie WR has a better shot at getting 1,000 yards and OROY while being third or fourth on the DC... Like I said before, Wayne, Harrison, Addai and Clark will be the number one threats for Peyton Manning, he's not going to need anyone else in that group unless one is injured. If you haven't noticed, Manning doesn't need to put up huge numbers for his team to be successful.</div> Gonzalez is the 3rd option for (Statistically speaking) pretty much the greatest QB ever. And the fact that the Colts have done that 3 for 1000 each before only reinforces the fact. AND I didn't say exactly 1000 I said close, because in mind I was thinking more 700-800 yards
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 13 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> Gonzalez is the 3rd option for (Statistically speaking) pretty much the greatest QB ever. And the fact that the Colts have done that 3 for 1000 each before only reinforces the fact. AND I didn't say exactly 1000 I said close, because in mind I was thinking more 700-800 yards</div>Statistically speaking, that was about the only time in NFL history a team has had three 1,000 yard receivers, Manning will not ever do that again. He's capable of doing that, but he knows stats don't get you wins and you'll start to see his numbers drop a little bit as the offense becomes more balanced. You want to know who was the third best receiver was last season... TE Ben Utecht with 37 catches and 377 yards. I'll say that '05 was a bit of a down year for Manning, but the fact is the Colts will not win any games if Manning is tossing the ball to a rookie WR who has no experience and doesn't even no the offense yet. You ever think of that dude? Do you realize how complex Tom Moore's offense is and that it takes a while to master it. Don't come back and say that Joseph Addai mastered it in his rookie year because that is a completely different position and he didn't have two superstars ahead of him on the depth chart to go along with other deep threats. Here's what Gonzales will do this season... 34 catches, 421 yards, 2 TDs
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (808Hornetsfan @ Jul 13 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Statistically speaking, that was about the only time in NFL history a team has had three 1,000 yard receivers, Manning will not ever do that again. He's capable of doing that, but he knows stats don't get you wins and you'll start to see his numbers drop a little bit as the offense becomes more balanced. You want to know who was the third best receiver was last season... TE Ben Utecht with 37 catches and 377 yards. I'll say that '05 was a bit of a down year for Manning, but the fact is the Colts will not win any games if Manning is tossing the ball to a rookie WR who has no experience and doesn't even no the offense yet. You ever think of that dude? Do you realize how complex Tom Moore's offense is and that it takes a while to master it. Don't come back and say that Joseph Addai mastered it in his rookie year because that is a completely different position and he didn't have two superstars ahead of him on the depth chart to go along with other deep threats. Here's what Gonzales will do this season... 34 catches, 421 yards, 2 TDs</div>Ben Utecht has nowhere near the talent as Gonzalez. Last year I was one of the few people I know who thought Adai could rush for 1000 yards, in fact I think I was the only. Who else predicted that? Nobody. Exactly. The Colts are know for always proving people wrong. And this year will be no different. Gonzalez will put up at least 700 yards. There. I'm done with this discussion. We'll just have to wait
And not only that, why would Addai take away yards from Gonzalez? Addai is a good catcher, but he's a RB.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 13 2007, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben Utecht has nowhere near the talent as Gonzalez. Last year I was one of the few people I know who thought Adai could rush for 1000 yards, in fact I think I was the only. Who else predicted that? Nobody. Exactly. The Colts are know for always proving people wrong. And this year will be no different. Gonzalez will put up at least 700 yards. There. I'm done with this discussion. We'll just have to wait</div>You just proved my point that you have no comebacks whatsoever. Addai plays RB, not WR. Addai had Dominic Rhodes, a injury-prone backup RB who was not ever going to be a starter for Indy. Joseph didn't have to do much to earn PT. What makes you so sure that Gonzales will even get out on the field. If you actually watched football, you'll know that Moore likes to split Clark and Utecht out in the slot. If the occasion calls for it, Moorehead is thrown in as a fourth or fifth receiver. Addai is another weapon Manning has to throw to while another TE in Bryan Fletcher is involved as well. If Gonzales is to have any impact at all, he's got to beat out three or four guys to earn just a spot in the slot... my point that Utecht was the third best receiver is because Manning has adjusted to throwing to TEs underneath and tossing it to Addai out of the backfield. Your only comeback is that you think anything can happen and the Colts will magically spread the ball enough to have three 1,000 yard WRs.. the only way that happens is if Wayne or Harrison goes down and Anthony gets more PT. And I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you believe a WR does not need any time whatsoever to learn the offense before he becomes a target.
