<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 26 2006, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would be happy with Foye at 6. I think we're set at every position but PG and Center. Go for Boone in the 2nd. Don't need a PF, we have KG.Don't need a SF, we have Ricky Davis.Don't need a SG, we have rashad.</div>My boy 'Shad probably won't be ready for the start of the year this coming up season. He just went under very serious knee surgery a week or 2 ago, and I think it's 4-6 months before he's back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jun 27 2006, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chaintime @ Jun 27 2006, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Jun 27 2006, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I entered a mock... there's no point in doing the 2nd half cause anyone can go anywhere lolNot only that more than 85% of the late round picks end up as a bench player for their career on leave the NBA altogether</div>That is an unbelieveable stat. Wow.</div>What do you think the NFL odds are?A 7th round draft pick in the NFL has about 10:1 odds of ever being a productive player and at least 25% of them get released before playing a single NFL regular-season snap.</div>Okay? But were talking about late first round picks in the NBA, meaning one of two picks for the teams picking. In the NFL there are 53 players on a team, 11 on a practice squad, and they draft atleast 7. Totally different.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jun 27 2006, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 26 2006, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T-wolves need a PG in round 1 and a center in round 2.</div>We're going to trade for Allen Iverson. In the paper today I read that there is a VERY good chance that he'll be traded in the draft. We could give them our 1st, one or two of our three second rounders... and some player for Iverson and their first rounder. Maybe they'll be nice and send some cash moneys with him so we don't have to pay the $60mil.</div>Last I heard it was AI to Boston, Boozer to Philly, Wally to Utah in a 3-way.
When it comes draft time, I think it will ultimately be Rudy Gay as the #1 overall pick.Noone has a bigger upside than he does. Even if he doesn't pan out fully, he's still a solid all-around player with a fundamentally sound all-around game.Gay fits in with Bosh at C, Charlie V at PF, Gay at SF, Graham at SG, and a PG.This Bargnani hype as #1 is overblown IMO. After the Darko scare, I'm sure GMs are afraid of picking another foreign prospect especially one that is somewhat like Dirk but can't play post-up basketball to save his life. He's too slow-footed to be a SF too yet too light to be a PF. He's a hybrid that really is a boom or bust pick that can cost a GMs job.Another overrated prospect is Marcus Williams. Sure, his court vision is very good and he really is a floor general but his footspeed is extremely slow. Watching him play defense in like watching slow-motion. He can't follow a player and really doesn't have the speed to get by semi-quick PGs. I'd prefer a player like Farmar (vastly underrated; he's the 2nd best PG prospect to me) or Rondo who are athletic yet have room to improve their game whereas Williams has a good game but is far far from athletic.The 2nd round is very rich this season I noticed... most could be late-first rounders. Players like Daniel Gibson, Will Blalock, and Darius Washington could be 2nd round steals if they fall that far. Toronto would be smart to nab on of them since James is likely out the door. Also Powe, Bowman, Paul Davis, Guillermo Diaz could be solid role players or bench players that add a spark to the offense/defense.
I haven't been following up on the NBA for a while now. I only get interested when it comes to the NFL Draft because it's the only way that Atlanta will get better. >_>Anyways...anyone have any analysis on Atlanta and who they will pick?I would personally like if they would choose Shelden Williams or Marcus Williams. Both players are a great asset to the bigger requirements and needs of the Atlanta Hawks.
Atlanta is supposed to draft Brandon Roy at #5 and trade with the Houston Rocket #8 Shelden Williams.Personally, I don't see Shelden as anything more than a role player, a Udonis Haslem type player, a PF that does the dirty work like rebound and play D and will score 15 points once a week. I don't see why Atlanta wouldn't take Tyrus Thomas, LaMarcus Aldridge, or Andrea Bargnani because 1 of them is bound to be there and all 3 of those players have much much better upside than Shelden. Shelden has peaked imo while Aldridge and Thomas are only a step behind in polish yet.In the 2nd round, Atlanta should get a PG like you wanted. Daniel Gibson, Darius Washington, Dee Brown, and Will Blalock should all still be available. They add speed and versatility. Gibson is a score first and the 3rd best defensive PG (behind Rondo and Collins who are in their own class). Washington is a good driver and will chip in the jump shot once in awhile. He's not a top 35 talent to me though because his upside is blocked by his character. Dee Brown has incredible speed but that's about all that's going for him. incosistant J and not the best D will hurt him. Blalock is the best passer and has good speed of the 4 which could help Atlanta with scorers like Joe Johnson, Marvin, Childress, and Josh Smith. If Atlanta wants to employ an up-tempo style of play, I would take Blalock. If they want to go half court in the future, I would go Gibson.I would believe that if they trade down from 5 to 8, they should get the Rockets #32 overall pick. With that, they should definately pick up Paul Davis if he's available. Since they would have the next pick anyway #33, ensuring you get the best big man available is important. Although an athletic PF like Alexander Johnson could be a solid pick as well. An international prospect like Freeland or Halperim could be available and they have big upside. Powe might be available and he's the best PF in the draft in terms of skill. He's still young too. Eric Williams could be available. A big body that is probably the strongest in the draft.
Actually. According to draft experts... the pick that is the closest to being a for sure one, is Atlanta taking Sheldon Williams at #5. Also, in the paper (it said nothing about AI going to Minny, I just would like him to), it said the best fit for AI could be ATL and they may get him. They need fans and he'd bring them. But they more than likely won't be able to pay for his 60mil contract.
If Atlanta takes Shelden at 5, the GM needs ot be fired immediately. Shelden is not top 5 and I would even consider top 8 a reach. If I were a team like Atlanta that's still growing, I would prefer Simmons (he's pretty strong, good on the boards, and is a decent big man FT shooter; reminds me of Amare with quick moves and can do other things than just post up) or O'Bryant (he's thin but he has skills that can be polished to make him top 5 center in 4 years, don't think he'll gain much weight though)My top 5 at each position (I tend to prefer upside/athleticism over unathletic talent; NBA game isn't for non-athletes these days)PGFoye, Farmar, Rondo, Rodriguez, M. WilliamsSGRoy, Carney, Brewer, Brown, SefoloshaSFGay, Morrison, Sefolosha, Shawne Williams, ViniciusPFThomas, Bargnani, Simmons, Shelden Williams, PecherovCAldridge, O'Bryant, Sene, Armstrong, Boone
Gay will not be the first player taken in the draft, that was just a huge smockscreen so some teams would try and trade up for it. No teams were interested in doing so, because Toronto wants a proven, veteran PG and a pick.
Toronto will indeed take Bargnani unless there are last-second changes. But Mike James basically has his foot out the door and he proved last season he's a top 15 PG in the league.Either way, Toronto won't compete for another 2-3 years at least.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Jun 27 2006, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Atlanta is supposed to draft Brandon Roy at #5 and trade with the Houston Rocket #8 Shelden Williams.Personally, I don't see Shelden as anything more than a role player, a Udonis Haslem type player, a PF that does the dirty work like rebound and play D and will score 15 points once a week. I don't see why Atlanta wouldn't take Tyrus Thomas, LaMarcus Aldridge, or Andrea Bargnani because 1 of them is bound to be there and all 3 of those players have much much better upside than Shelden. Shelden has peaked imo while Aldridge and Thomas are only a step behind in polish yet.In the 2nd round, Atlanta should get a PG like you wanted. Daniel Gibson, Darius Washington, Dee Brown, and Will Blalock should all still be available. They add speed and versatility. Gibson is a score first and the 3rd best defensive PG (behind Rondo and Collins who are in their own class). Washington is a good driver and will chip in the jump shot once in awhile. He's not a top 35 talent to me though because his upside is blocked by his character. Dee Brown has incredible speed but that's about all that's going for him. incosistant J and not the best D will hurt him. Blalock is the best passer and has good speed of the 4 which could help Atlanta with scorers like Joe Johnson, Marvin, Childress, and Josh Smith. If Atlanta wants to employ an up-tempo style of play, I would take Blalock. If they want to go half court in the future, I would go Gibson.I would believe that if they trade down from 5 to 8, they should get the Rockets #32 overall pick. With that, they should definately pick up Paul Davis if he's available. Since they would have the next pick anyway #33, ensuring you get the best big man available is important. Although an athletic PF like Alexander Johnson could be a solid pick as well. An international prospect like Freeland or Halperim could be available and they have big upside. Powe might be available and he's the best PF in the draft in terms of skill. He's still young too. Eric Williams could be available. A big body that is probably the strongest in the draft.</div>Shelden Williams is a bit iffy with me now.I just did some research and found out that Grant Hill was the only one that came out of Duke to be a 'successful' NBA player.
Woo! Randy Foye! Go T-wolves! Also glad that Ced Simmons got picked. I hope he does well. Should have stayed another year though...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 28 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Woo! Randy Foye! Go T-wolves!</div>That trade was so dumb lol. Foye was still on the board when we picked Roy, then when we picked Roy we traded him heads up for Foye? Either the people who decide who we pick cracked under pressure and picked the wrong guy.. or else we just wanted to be cool and be involved in a trade? lol, I like both Roy and Foye (i'm a damn rapper) though. But Foye has been compared to D-Wade so i'll take him haha. I really hope Foye can play PG. If he can, he could easily start this year since Marko is horrid and Marcus Banks is a FA.We have 3 round 2 picks though, so I hope we can get some outside shooter (Steve Novak would be kick ass!), and just a big center for the future.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jun 28 2006, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 28 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Woo! Randy Foye! Go T-wolves!</div>That trade was so dumb lol. Foye was still on the board when we picked Roy, then when we picked Roy we traded him heads up for Foye? Either the people who decide who we pick cracked under pressure and picked the wrong guy.. or else we just wanted to be cool and be involved in a trade? lol, I like both Roy and Foye (i'm a damn rapper) though. But Foye has been compared to D-Wade so i'll take him haha. I really hope Foye can play PG. If he can, he could easily start this year since Marko is horrid and Marcus Banks is a FA.We have 3 round 2 picks though, so I hope we can get some outside shooter (Steve Novak would be kick ass!), and just a big center for the future.</div>Right now our starting lineup looks pretty damn good. Foye at PGMcCants at SGRicky Davis at SFKevin Garnett at PF??? at CGet a good center in there and we have a solid starting lineup. The team that looks scary for the future though is Charlotte.. Young and Talented. also look for the bulls to make a run in the next year or so. Felton at PGMay at PFMorrison at SFOkafor at C
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 28 2006, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jun 28 2006, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurplePeopleEaters @ Jun 28 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Woo! Randy Foye! Go T-wolves!</div>That trade was so dumb lol. Foye was still on the board when we picked Roy, then when we picked Roy we traded him heads up for Foye? Either the people who decide who we pick cracked under pressure and picked the wrong guy.. or else we just wanted to be cool and be involved in a trade? lol, I like both Roy and Foye (i'm a damn rapper) though. But Foye has been compared to D-Wade so i'll take him haha. I really hope Foye can play PG. If he can, he could easily start this year since Marko is horrid and Marcus Banks is a FA.We have 3 round 2 picks though, so I hope we can get some outside shooter (Steve Novak would be kick ass!), and just a big center for the future.</div>Right now our starting lineup looks pretty damn good. Foye at PGMcCants at SGRicky Davis at SFKevin Garnett at PF??? at CGet a good center in there and we have a solid starting lineup. The team that looks scary for the future though is Charlotte.. Young and Talented. also look for the bulls to make a run in the next year or so. Felton at PGMay at PFMorrison at SFOkafor at C</div>More than likely Blount at center.. unless we become smart and go after Ben Wallace or Joel Pryzbilla (sp?) in free agency.But like I said, McCants is out 4-6 months.P.S. in the first two of our three second rounders we drafted Boston College PF Craig Smith, and Washington guard Bobby Jones.
Craig Smith is VERY good. Good pick there. Should backup KG pretty well. I don't know about this Jones guy though.
