<div class="quote_poster">Skillz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">lol. What state is NWU in?</div> Chicago Medill - Northwestern University
My Schedule: 7:00 Wake up 8:00 Work 4:30 Get off work 5:00 Eat and bs 10:00 Chill, get smashed 3:00 Go to bed Unless I work 4-1230 then it's way different. I should've went to school, I still could I suppose.
<div class="quote_poster">Skillz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, thats a great article. Along the lines, What amount of pay does the average Journalist receive? I'd love to become a sports writer.</div> I hear nothing special. But if you love what you do, money won't be as important. It's around 30-35K, but if you are an editor or have a higher position then you can make more money. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Journalism/Salary I guess it really depends on how good you are though. If you are "the man" at what you do, then you will make more money. I don't know, but journalism seems like a competitive field, so that will make it harder for one to stand out. Still, if you have a passion for what you do, by all means, pursue your passion.
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<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">BTW - what would you have to do to become an NBA agent?</div> I was reading this interview with Rob Pelinka (Kobe's agent) and he went to law school and specialized in business law. I'm sure you can go through business school as well. In the end, its all networking though.
Frivolous news: Hah, I found some easy Art History Thesis class that had one more spot available for me and I was able to add it into my Spring 2008 schedule. In the awkward case that this class ends up being more difficult then I expected, I could always drop it within the first week. I also forgot to mention but I'm studying to become a Bio-Medical Engineer.
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">BTW - what would you have to do to become an NBA agent?</div> Step 1 - Get a business law degree. Step 2 - Know people. Unfortunately, no matter how good you are, step 2 usually keeps most people who have step 1 down from going far in that profession. Writers on the whole don't get paid well, but there's a lot of small scale writers out there that bring down the averages. If you're writing for a major newspaper and have some sort of tenure, you'll be making six figures. One of my friends in high school had a dad whose job was to cover all of the minor University of Memphis sports (ie: all the sports outside of basketball, football, and baseball). He'd write a daily column, but it was usually something like a recap of a tennis match or a story on a hiring of a new assistant coach or something minor like that, so you'd think he wouldn't be getting paid much. The thing is though, he lived in the nicest neighborhood in town, had a three story house, and drove a Navigator, so you know at the very least he was making six figures, to have that kind of disposable income. Another one of the writers for the Commercial Appeal (Memphis paper) came to talk to our high school journalism class one time and claimed to be making more than he did as a lawyer, and this guy had a law degree from Yale. Actually, he was the same guy who got into the argument with Jason Williams a few years ago, if any of you remember that. Jason Williams bugged out and stole the dude's pen. I mean, you just don't get experiences like that in practicing law. Keep in perspective though, those are two guys who have been writing for papers for 10+ years. In the first guy's case, I think he's been with the paper for nearly 25. Tenure is important in any profession. You'll be starting out with a lot lower of an income than you get later on in pretty much every line of work out there. And I dunno, MrJ, that Adande article was pretty good imo. It made me want to reconsider sports writing. I love this quote - "It's not all I do, but it's primarily what I do. I write about sports because they somehow manage to incorporate every aspect of our world: life, death, hope, disappointment, victories, losses, politics, rules, crimes, fair play, cheating, health, drugs, love, hate. I write about sports because you never know how the story will end (unless Tiger Woods holds the lead on Sunday). I write about sports because, for better or worse, that's where most of the country gets its look at African-Americans and I want to do my part to keep the lens clear. I write about sports because when I was a fourth-grader a rookie guard named Magic Johnson made me fall in love with basketball and the Lakers, and I decided I wanted to play for them. I write about sports because as an eighth-grader I realized that wasn't going to happen." ...especially that last paragraph. I think we can all relate to that.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Step 1 - Get a business law degree. Step 2 - Know people. Unfortunately, no matter how good you are, step 2 usually keeps most people who have step 1 down from going far in that profession. Writers on the whole don't get paid well, but there's a lot of small scale writers out there that bring down the averages. If you're writing for a major newspaper and have some sort of tenure, you'll be making six figures. One of my friends in high school had a dad whose job was to cover all of the minor University of Memphis sports (ie: all the sports outside of basketball, football, and baseball). He'd write a daily column, but it was usually something like a recap of a tennis match or a story on a hiring of a new assistant coach or something minor like that, so you'd think he wouldn't be getting paid much. The thing is though, he lived in the nicest neighborhood in town, had a three story house, and drove a Navigator, so you know at the very least he was making six figures, to have that kind of disposable income. Another one of the writers for the Commercial Appeal (Memphis paper) came to talk to our high school journalism class one time and claimed to be making more than he did as a lawyer, and this guy had a law degree from Yale. Actually, he was the same guy who got into the argument with Jason Williams a few years ago, if any of you remember that. Jason Williams bugged out and stole the dude's pen. I mean, you just don't get experiences like that in practicing law. Keep in perspective though, those are two guys who have been writing for papers for 10+ years. In the first guy's case, I think he's been with the paper for nearly 25. Tenure is important in any profession. You'll be starting out with a lot lower of an income than you get later on in pretty much every line of work out there. And I dunno, MrJ, that Adande article was pretty good imo. It made me want to reconsider sports writing. I love this quote - "It's not all I do, but it's primarily what I do. I write about sports because they somehow manage to incorporate every aspect of our world: life, death, hope, disappointment, victories, losses, politics, rules, crimes, fair play, cheating, health, drugs, love, hate. I write about sports because you never know how the story will end (unless Tiger Woods holds the lead on Sunday). I write about sports because, for better or worse, that's where most of the country gets its look at African-Americans and I want to do my part to keep the lens clear. I write about sports because when I was a fourth-grader a rookie guard named Magic Johnson made me fall in love with basketball and the Lakers, and I decided I wanted to play for them. I write about sports because as an eighth-grader I realized that wasn't going to happen." ...especially that last paragraph. I think we can all relate to that.</div> I liked the Adande article and prior to my last couple of months in high school, I wanted to do journalism. But all of a sudden I was getting into business and how money works, so I don't think I'll be doing journalism anymore. I don't even know how much "potential" I have anyway. The only sport which I really ever followed is basketball, so someone like you, Schaddy, or Swish would probably be better suited. I remember talking to Knicks Analyst a few years ago and he was talking about how it was extremely hard to be big-time. I think the writers here could make it though. Take Swish for example, he interviewed players from the Orlando Magic multiple times. He got more experience there than he would've gotten at any sort of internship. Isn't that Warriors fan (Zhone?) an NBA agent? Maybe I should hit him up about it.
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I liked the Adande article and prior to my last couple of months in high school, I wanted to do journalism. But all of a sudden I was getting into business and how money works, so I don't think I'll be doing journalism anymore. I don't even know how much "potential" I have anyway. The only sport which I really ever followed is basketball, so someone like you, Schaddy, or Swish would probably be better suited. I remember talking to Knicks Analyst a few years ago and he was talking about how it was extremely hard to be big-time. I think the writers here could make it though. Take Swish for example, he interviewed players from the Orlando Magic multiple times. He got more experience there than he would've gotten at any sort of internship. Isn't that Warriors fan (Zhone?) an NBA agent? Maybe I should hit him up about it.</div> I agree. It's competitive and you might make much money. Knicks analyst is a little neurotic though. I'm on a pre-law curriculum but haven't decided on which type of law I'll be practicing mostly. There's so many different types of lawyers out there that you can really do any type of work. Corporations, athletes, etc. - a lot of people have needs for lawyers these days. Then there's real estate lawyers. Those guys clean up financially and don't do much actual work. I think you'd be a good writer though, honestly. If you don't want to go into it, that's cool, but you shouldn't quit because you doubt your abilities, because you've definitely got them. I think Swish is going to be great too. He writes better than a lot of college journalism students. As for Zhone, all I know is that he was in law school, but maybe he went on to be an agent.
They have those online courses on sports management. It's inexpensive, and might be something to look into to get a better idea of how the industry works and talk to some people actually involved in it. Good starting point to network. I've noticed a lot of sports agents were former athletes themselves. Playing on a team gives you inside access to players and inside connections most outsiders aren't granted. I'd recommend getting involved some how with your college's sports teams in some capacity. Law degree is a must.
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Alright, I'll send a replay or PM the writing team. I se eyou get to into view players too. It would look great on my resume, and I would love to cpver the Raptors. Thanks for the edvice.</div> Wow there's an ironic post if I ever saw one. If you want to be a writer, then I sincerely hope you were just joking around...
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Wow there's an ironic post if I ever saw one. If you want to be a writer, then I sincerely hope you were just joking around...</div> Lol, I was eating a sandwich when I wrote that So I was typing with 1 hand. I think it was Roast Beef, but that doesn't matter. Sorry if it looked bad, lol.
Haha no worries man I was just bugging you. Good luck with you're writing career though and getting into Ryerson. Me, personally, I hate writing essays and that stuff so I'm going into Commerce next year at UBC. I'm not looking forward to the 31 credit-minimum though lol.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Haha no worries man I was just bugging you. Good luck with you're writing career though and getting into Ryerson. Me, personally, I hate writing essays and that stuff so I'm going into Commerce next year at UBC. I'm not looking forward to the 31 credit-minimum though lol.</div> Lol, thanks. 31 creditsm holy sh*t, have fun.
When you look at the salary of a sports writer, you have to factor in a lot of different things. When I interviewed Brian Schmitz, Orlando Sentinel sports writer, for a research paper I did, he brought up some great points. "I’ve been to 20 Super Bowls, 10 World Series, the Olympics and many other events. How many people get paid to do things like that? It’s a great job and so far I’ve had a very exciting and eventful life." You're getting paid to do what you love. How many of you guys would want season tickets to your favorite sports team when you're older? Well being a beat writer gets you in every game, home or away, gets you closer to the players and the main thing is it makes you more than a fan. Season ticket prices, travel cost, and all of that are free for beat writers so while that's not more cold hard cash they're bringing in, it's still perks that make the job even sweeter. The main thing for me is wanting to be more than a fan. I've always envied everyone who got to interact with players from ball boys and water boys to agents. I always used to tell my dad I want to do that, I want to be the kid who gives the players water. I just wanted to be closer to the game and sports writer gives you a chance to do that. We have some die hard fans here on JustBBall and the thought of being more than a fan and being with the team just makes it an awesome job in my mind. Another thing to think about is that your writing is affecting people all around the world. With internet blogs and all newspaper articles going on the publication's website, people all over the world are reading your thoughts and opinions. You have the power to change someone's mind, make them laugh, and teach them something new. That's a cool thing for me too when you think about it like that.
<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">When you look at the salary of a sports writer, you have to factor in a lot of different things. When I interviewed Brian Schmitz, Orlando Sentinel sports writer, for a research paper I did, he brought up some great points. "I?ve been to 20 Super Bowls, 10 World Series, the Olympics and many other events. How many people get paid to do things like that? It?s a great job and so far I?ve had a very exciting and eventful life." You're getting paid to do what you love. How many of you guys would want season tickets to your favorite sports team when you're older? Well being a beat writer gets you in every game, home or away, gets you closer to the players and the main thing is it makes you more than a fan. Season ticket prices, travel cost, and all of that are free for beat writers so while that's not more cold hard cash they're bringing in, it's still perks that make the job even sweeter. The main thing for me is wanting to be more than a fan. I've always envied everyone who got to interact with players from ball boys and water boys to agents. I always used to tell my dad I want to do that, I want to give the players water. I just wanted to be closer to the game and sports writer gives you a chance to do that. We have some diehard guys on JustBBall and the thought of being more than a fan and being with the team just makes it an awesome job in my mind. Another thing to think about is that you're writing is affecting people all around the world. With internet blogs and all newspaper articles going on the publication's website, people all over the world are reading your thoughts and opinions. You have the power to change someone's mind, make them laugh, and teach them something new. That's a cool thing for me too when you think about it like that.</div> Well said, I hope you become a famous writer, and so do I. You too Legacy Man, I love writing about sports, plus everything you just listed makes it sweeter. Should be a fun couple of years in high school to get into Ryerson.
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^ What grade are you in right now?</div> I'm going to 11. I'm taking co-op at the Star or Fan 590, anywhere were I can expand on my writing skills.
