10 years worth of #7 and #16 picks in the Draft

15 years worth of #7 and #16 picks in the Draft

<font size="2">Past #7 Picks</font>

2004- Luol Deng
2003- Kirk Hinrich
2002- Nene Hilario
2001- Eddie Griffen
2000- Chris Mihm
1999- Richard Hamilton
1998- Jason Williams
1997- Tim Thomas
1996- Lorenzen Wright
1995- Damon Stoudamire
1994- Lamond Murray
1993- Bobby Hurley
1992- Walt Williams
1991- Luc Longley
1990- Lionel Simmons

Notables - Kevin Johnson (1987), Chris Mullin (1985), Vinnie Johnson (1979)

<font size="2">Past #16 picks</font>

2004- Kirk Snyder
2003- Troy Bell
2002- Jiri Welsch
2001- Kirk Haston
2000- Hidayet Turkoglu
1999- Ron Artest
1998- Bryce Drew
1997- Brevin Knight
1996- Tony Delk
<font face="Times New Roman"><font face="Verdana"><font size="2">1995- Alan Henderson</font></font></font>
1994- Clifford Rozier
1993- Rex Walters
1992- Randy Woods
1991- Chris Gatling
1990- Terry Mills

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<font face="Times New Roman"><font face="Verdana"><font size="2">Notables - John Stockton (1984)</font></font></font>
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<font face="Times New Roman"><font face="Verdana"><font size="2">- Considering that I am doing absolutely nothing at work right now, I decided to research the last 10 years worth of #7 and #16 picks in past drafts. As you can see there is quite the dropoff from #7 to #16 but there are still some serviceable players that can be acquired. I bolded the notable players for the 16th picks.</font></font></font>

 

Al Jefferson was picked at 15, not 16. Last year's #16 pick was Kirk Snyder.

 

lol that's interesting...i hope we get a steal like ron ron w/o the attitude

 

^I think the only reason Artest was a steal was because of his questionable attitude.

 

^whoa, I thought u repleid to your thread two times.

But, the 7th pick looks promising. Please Raptor Management, I beg you, draft on talent first, need second.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">^whoa, I thought u repleid to your thread two times.

But, the 7th pick looks promising. Please Raptor Management, I beg you, draft on talent first, need second.</div>

I hate to be a pesimist, but it seems like the #7 pick is actually when the talent begins to fade off. You have some nice players on that list like Rip Hamilton, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, Jason Williams, and Lorenzen Wright, but there are no superstars. If you look at the #5 and #6 picks though, you've got Dwyane Wade, Jason Richardson, Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Wally Sczerbiak, Ray Allen, Antoine Walker, Kevin Garnett, Jamal Mashburn, Juwon Howard, Steve Smith, and oh yeah... Vince Carter. So you can see how the talent level drops. You go from superstars like Kevin Garnett and Dwyane Wade to above average role players like Rip Hamilton between the #5 and #7 picks.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">^whoa, I thought u repleid to your thread two times.

But, the 7th pick looks promising. Please Raptor Management, I beg you, draft on talent first, need second.</div>
Well, babcock said himself after the draft that he's gonna take a different approach this time beacause the team has many needs, and he's gonna draft the most talented player available.

 

Babs better keep to his words this time. We won't tolerate another bad decision.

 

Do you mind if I do this same type of thing in the Magic forum with the #11 pick?

 

^Go ahead bro.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I hate to be a pesimist, but it seems like the #7 pick is actually when the talent begins to fade off. You have some nice players on that list like Rip Hamilton, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, Jason Williams, and Lorenzen Wright, but there are no superstars. If you look at the #5 and #6 picks though, you've got Dwyane Wade, Jason Richardson, Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Wally Sczerbiak, Ray Allen, Antoine Walker, Kevin Garnett, Jamal Mashburn, Juwon Howard, Steve Smith, and oh yeah... Vince Carter. So you can see how the talent level drops. You go from superstars like Kevin Garnett and Dwyane Wade to above average role players like Rip Hamilton between the #5 and #7 picks.</div>I do agree that most of the talents are 2nd tier star's but I don't really mind that. It seems to me that most of those players play a good role on each of their respective teams. If we can get a player who has the same impact as Rip Hamilton does on his team I would be very happy.

Judging by this observation I re-iterate that if it were up to me and Felton, Williams, and Green are off the table....Danny Granger would have to be my pick at #7. You can't get anymore solid than that.

 

I agree. Granger at 7. I'd almost take him over Green though that's a tough one. I don't want to wait on Green, have him be a bust, or have him take off on us like McGrady did. He would be a valuable asset though, but seeing as how Babcock got fleeced on the Vince deal maybe we want players and not assets....

 

picking a good player at the number 7 spot isnt really hard. Kirk Hinrich was a 7th pick. i just hope that we can be able to get a few solid palyers that can develop over time.

 

The first round picks, especially the lottery pick wouldn't be; and cannot be 'developmental' players. If they are, like Araujo is, then it is a bad decision making on the management's part. They should at least be NBA ready and be ready to contribute right away; albeit not being a superstar - we have a budding one in Chris Bosh. Babcock should realize that the purpose of this draft for the Raps is to put together the right pieces around Bosh, not getting another future superstar. So far we have Bosh at the 4 holding the fort firmly, and Mo Pete at the 2/3 holding his own, but the rest of the positions are question marks as far as the future of this franchise is concerned. For us to be a legit contender in the future, we need to address the center and the point guard position, an energy guy off the bench, as well as another good perimeter defender alongside Mo Pete. Through the first round of this draft, Babcock can address 2 out of the 4 needs - a point guard and a swingman - by picking either:

7th: Martell Webster; 16th: Trade down and get Jarrett Jack
<u>or</u>
7th: Raymond Felton; 16th: Joey Graham
<u>or</u>
7th: Trade down for two 10~20th picks, Higher pick: Webster / Felton; Lower pick: Danny Granger; 16th pick: Joey Graham or trade down and get Jarrett Jack.

After that's all said and done, Babcock can use the two picks in the second round to address the other two needs - an energy guy off the bench and a center. Having said that, the potential center would most likely to be picked with the 58th pick - as a developmental project that may take 2 or more years of seasoning in Europe or NBDL. The energy guy would be picked with the 38th pick, and he'll have to be athletic, aggressive and be a nice team player. Nate Robinson comes to mind, although he's another point guard.

 

I don't think it's necessary to trade down with the 16th pick if we get a SG/SF with the 7th pick (Granger/Webster/Green) because their are teams right behind us that would take Jack. Boston for one is in need of PG, and Jack would be a good fit for them, and they are only a couple of spots down from us at 18.

The Raptors really need someone to control the PG spot who sets the table for the rest of the team with his passing and playmaking, so I would say getting a PG in the draft is very important, whether it's Felton or Jack. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting an SG and SF like Webster-Graham/Wright, Green-Graham/Wright, Granger-Graham/Wright because they are all more talented than Jack. You could even add Warrick to there, but I rather draft Jack over Warrick if we get Webster, Granger or Green with the 7th pick.

 

i think that geting a pg that is reliable is even MORE important then getting a swingman at this time.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it's necessary to trade down with the 16th pick if we get a SG/SF with the 7th pick (Granger/Webster/Green) because their are teams right behind us that would take Jack. Boston for one is in need of PG, and Jack would be a good fit for them, and they are only a couple of spots down from us at 18.

The Raptors really need someone to control the PG spot who sets the table for the rest of the team with his passing and playmaking, so I would say getting a PG in the draft is very important, whether it's Felton or Jack. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting an SG and SF like Webster-Graham/Wright, Green-Graham/Wright, Granger-Graham/Wright because they are all more talented than Jack. You could even add Warrick to there, but I rather draft Jack over Warrick if we get Webster, Granger or Green with the 7th pick.</div>

Oh ok my bad. nbadraft.net projected Jack going 25th so that's why I had him at 25th. If it's not necessary to trade down, just use the 16th to grab Jack. Yup, if we pick a swingman with the 7th then it would be wiser to grab a PG with the 16th.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dabigboshdog:</div><div class="quote_post">i think that geting a pg that is reliable is even MORE important then getting a swingman at this time.</div>

I'd have to say Jarrett Jack is pretty reliable on both ends of the court. <u>And</u> he's a former teammate of Bosh, so I don't see how we can get anyone better at the point with the 16th pick.

 

i personally like felton,but it doesnt matter. I think Felton had more time to develop because the spotlight wasnt on him until this year, while Jack has the experience already playing in the Final Four. If we draft either one i'd be happy

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">^Go ahead bro.

I do agree that most of the talents are 2nd tier star's but I don't really mind that. .</div>
Agreed. I don't think the Raptors really need a sper star talent on their team, but soe players that are very good at their position and are versatile.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nkwu:</div><div class="quote_post">Agreed. I don't think the Raptors really need a sper star talent on their team, but soe players that are very good at their position and are versatile.</div>


i know. Babs cant go wrong in this draft! i mean what an idiot if he did not pick a good player! what would happen to all of us if he picked fransisco garcia with our 16th pick. i would rage . jarrett jack is a preferrably good player, because he is a good friend of bosh and a talented player. if we need a guard i'd go with these guys if available at 16.

felton
deron williams
jarretjack
chris paul - longshot!
rashard
green
and rudy fernandez. <-- we need some flava, and he'll bring it!

 

felton and dreon williams are gonna be out before our pick for shure....charlotte and new orleans want them and we might not be picking rashad because we might take jack instead. however, if the raptors get felton, then there is a good chance that we might get rashad