dunkaholic32's mock draft v1

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  1. playmaker15

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    1. Bucks select Andrew Bogut C Utah
    Most dominating player in the college game, great scorer and passer, not very athletic though

    2. Hawks select Marvin Williams F UNC
    Tremendous upside, incredible athlete, great range for a big man, only weakness is experience

    3. Blazers select Gerald Green G/F High School
    Amazing athlete, constantly compared to T Mac, outstanding shooter, best high schooler in the draft. Only thing is that no1 knew about him until the McDonalds game.

    4. Hornets select Chris Paul G Wake Forest
    A real floor general, great playmaking ability for his teamates. Great passer and he is ready for the NBA.

    5. Bobcats select Deron Williams G Illinois
    Tremendous leader who can play defense like JKidd and can create opportunites for others like Andre Miller.

    6. Jazz select Ray Felton G UNC
    Great passer with improved range, he makes others around him better.

    7. Raptors select Fran Vasquez F/C Spain
    With Donyell Marshall likely out of Toronto why not get someone who can play with Bosh who has size and has good defensive skills

    8. Knicks select Danny Granger G New Mexico
    He has a great all around game, he can pass and shoot very effectively


    9. Warriors select Channing Frye C Arizona
    Great passer for a guy his size, he can also step out and hit the 10-15 foot jump shot

    10. Lakers select Charlie Vilanueva F UCONN
    With Frye gone Vilanueva is the next best big guy. Now they can move Odom to SF where I saw him in Miami he looked very comfortable.

    11. Magic select Chris Taft F Pitt.
    Even though his stock is sliding his physicality adn athleticism. Attitude can be a problem and he can be inconsistent at times. He could complement Howard and Francis well though

    12. Clippers select Rashad Mcants G UNC
    They have a need at this position because Maggette is a true SF. He is unstoppable when driving to the hoop. He has great offensive talent but can be a headcase at times

    13. Bobcats select Antoine Wright G High School
    Many say that they need a big man here but i think they'll do ok with Brezec and Okafor in the future so here thewy take a gamble on Wright who can be a good player in the future.

    14. TWolves select Martell Webster G/F High School
    With Spreewell basically gone they need a backup who can be ready in a season or two because Webster is physicaly gifted and he can scre very well.

    15. Nets select Hakim Warrick F Syracuse
    There is much speculation about the Nets goin after a PF in the free agency period. If they do Warrik would fit because he could back up the PF or Jefferson at SF. He is very athletic and can run the floor with the big 3.

    16. Raptors selects Joey Graham F Oklahoma St.
    a monster on the boards who plays the game the right way. He needs to improve his perimiter game.

    17. Pacers select Sean May F UNC
    He has all the confidence in the world right now and he could be a solid backup for Jermaine because of his size

    18. Celtics select Johan Petro C France
    Long, athletic Center to go along with Al Jefferson but his post game needs some work

    19. Grizzlies select Rudy Fernandez G Spain
    Very flashy player who can play point for stretches of time, he needs some more strength if he wants to be a good player in the league

    20 Nuggets select Fransisco Garcia G/F Louisville
    He can score from anywhere on the floor. He is a true leader and motivates his teamates even when not on the floor

    21. Suns select Monta Eliss G High School
    He probably isn't ready for the NBA so he wil be a project, they take him for when Nash either leaves or retires

    22. Nuggets select CJ Miles G High School
    He's a project who can turn into a nice player for them because they have very little depth at the 2 guard spot

    23. Kings select Wayne Simien F Kansas
    This guy is a monster at both ends and if he stays healthy could replace CWebb right away

    24. Rockets select Ike Diogu F Arizona St.
    Undersized PF who still dominates in the middle he could be a Udonis Haslem type of guy who does the dirty work down low for Houston which is what they need, lack of size and athleticism

    25. Sonics select Jarret Jack G Georgia Tech
    A terrific defender who makes others better by getting them the ball he could replace Ray Allen if he decides to leave

    26. Pistons select Marko Tomas F Croatia
    He can light it up from beyond the arc and he should be a good backup for Tayshaun Prince

    27. Jazz select Kosta Perovic C Serbia-Montenegro
    Very coordenated for his size but his offensive game needs some development

    28. Spurs select Ronny Turiaf F Gonzaga
    He strikes me as a Greg Popavich kind of guy. He plays with a lot of heart and is an absolute monter on the boards but he doesn't have much of an offensive game

    29. Heat select Andray Blatche F/C High School
    Yet another project for my beloved Heat, but there's not much we can do with our pick but I really like Blatche I saw him play at the Jordan Classic and the All American game and I think he and Dorell are the future of the Heatalong with Flash of course

    30. Knicks select Nate Robinson G Washington
    With Marbury on the downside of his career I think Robinson is good enough to be a first round pick in a few years watch out for this kid he is a very explosive playmaker
     
  2. 44Thrilla

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    I don't think Jarrett Jack will drop that low. The Celtics will probably take him if he's available.
     
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    I still think the Lakers need a PG more than anything else. Chucky Atkins isn't exactly a long-term answer and with the talent at the guard position in this draft, I don't know if I could pass on a Jarrett Jack or Ray Felton for a huge project such as Villanueva.
     
  4. Drake Remoray

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dunkaholic32:</div><div class="quote_post">

    7. Raptors select Fran Vasquez F/C Spain
    With Donyell Marshall likely out of Toronto why not get someone who can play with Bosh who has size and has good defensive skills

    25. Sonics select Jarret Jack G Georgia Tech
    A terrific defender who makes others better by getting them the ball he could replace Ray Allen if he decides to leave
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    I really don't believe that the Raptors will end up taking Vasquez at 7. Also Jarret Jack shouldn't fall so low and how would he replace Ray Allen?
     
  5. playmaker15

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    as SG if Allen decides to leave
     
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    Jarrett Jack isn't a SG...
     
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    My bad I had always thought that he was Tech's SG
     
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    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    The Magic better not take Taft over Webster and Wright or I will one angry guy...
     
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    yea but if Hill is healthy then they could take Taft who can complement Howard.
     
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    I was thinkin, wait, why the hell would the Knicks take Granger when they are overloaded at the 2 and 3, then I realized, oh, ish, it's the Knicks thats right! Ok, now, TO has interest in Vasquez, but wont pass on Granger. Villinueva is WAY too high, neither the Clippers at 11 nor the Magic at 12 will BOTH pass on Wright and Webster. Maybe one of em might grab McCants, but, Taft is dropping faster than a college girls panties at a Frat party. Nuggets grab two guys who basically play the same position? Jack wont drop that far, and he is a POINT guard, so him replacing Allen (as stated above by others) will not happen. BJ Elder was thier shooting guard. Other than that, well, the lottery seems pretty good. But, then again, I think all 12 of the 12 member mock's lottery picks are pretty on, I think most people have kinda already locked them picks down.
     
  11. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinkin, wait, why the hell would the Knicks take Granger when they are overloaded at the 2 and 3, then I realized, oh, ish, it's the Knicks thats right! Ok, now, TO has interest in Vasquez, but wont pass on Granger. Villinueva is WAY too high, neither the Clippers at 11 nor the Magic at 12 will BOTH pass on Wright and Webster. Maybe one of em might grab McCants, but, Taft is dropping faster than a college girls panties at a Frat party. Nuggets grab two guys who basically play the same position? Jack wont drop that far, and he is a POINT guard, so him replacing Allen (as stated above by others) will not happen. BJ Elder was thier shooting guard. Other than that, well, the lottery seems pretty good. But, then again, I think all 12 of the 12 member mock's lottery picks are pretty on, I think most people have kinda already locked them picks down.</div>
    Knicks are overloaded at the 2 and 3?
    Shooting Guard: Jamal Crawford and Allan Houston
    Small Forward: Trevor Ariza, Penny Hardaway and Tim Thomas
    Now let me give you some background info on them. Isiah Thomas is not optimistic at all on Allan Houston?s return and I?m sure you?ve heard about the retiring rumors. Houston is also declining year by year and is at 34 years. Unless you consider two non-elite players at one position including one injury riddled player ?overloaded? than I guess they are.

    The Knicks have 3 players at the small forward position and Penny Hardaway has been missing in action very long. I don?t even know if he will even be back next year. Tim Thomas is a player that Isiah is diligently trying to move. Both him and Hardaway have those huge expiring contracts. Which will more than likely be moved latest at 2006. Ariza is the only player left there.

    Also Marbury might even be traded soon which will likely put Jamal Crawford at the point guard leaving only Allan Houston occupying that position. Someone with Granger?s potential is always welcomed on any team and especially for the Knicks especially because he is so versatile.

    I think the Knicks are very much interested in Granger and I definitely wouldn?t mind seeing Granger; the most underrated prospect in the entire draft. He?s top 3 pick material if he played for a better school. I?ll let you know my thoughts after I get back from Chicago.
     
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    Hey what happen to Tiago Splitter out of Spain, he's one of the lottery big man. Then Jack won't happen. The Knicks will draft a big man, not a guy to make them even smaller than they are. The Hornets have Deron Williams higher than Paul, and the Bobcats have Felton higher than Williams, so i think this is all mixed up. Utah would pick Turiaf over that dude. Then that small forward you didn't put on their Nemanja Aleksandrov, he's high in all other mock drafts. Then the big Lithuanian prospect too, Martynas Andriuskevicius, but the rest was good.
     
  13. KICKSDADDY613

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Knicks are overloaded at the 2 and 3?
    Shooting Guard: Jamal Crawford and Allan Houston
    Small Forward: Trevor Ariza, Penny Hardaway and Tim Thomas
    Now let me give you some background info on them. Isiah Thomas is not optimistic at all on Allan Houston?s return and I?m sure you?ve heard about the retiring rumors. Houston is also declining year by year and is at 34 years. Unless you consider two non-elite players at one position including one injury riddled player ?overloaded? than I guess they are.

    The Knicks have 3 players at the small forward position and Penny Hardaway has been missing in action very long. I don?t even know if he will even be back next year. Tim Thomas is a player that Isiah is diligently trying to move. Both him and Hardaway have those huge expiring contracts. Which will more than likely be moved latest at 2006. Ariza is the only player left there.

    Also Marbury might even be traded soon which will likely put Jamal Crawford at the point guard leaving only Allan Houston occupying that position. Someone with Granger?s potential is always welcomed on any team and especially for the Knicks especially because he is so versatile.

    I think the Knicks are very much interested in Granger and I definitely wouldn?t mind seeing Granger; the most underrated prospect in the entire draft. He?s top 3 pick material if he played for a better school. I?ll let you know my thoughts after I get back from Chicago.</div> [​IMG]

    Now let me inform you on a few things. One, Houstin is currently furiously rehabing, and is making a HUGE push to come back. (last word I received on him was right from the team physician and asst. trainer) So as of right now, is status, major question, but not out. Penny, yes, hasnt played any real quality ball in 5 years, but point is, he's still on the roster. Same with Tim Thomas. Now, you wanna move Crawford down to the point, and drop Marbury, I'm kool with that. however, you are assuming that if they draft Granger (or Webster for that matter) that they can successfully trade Hardaway, Thomas, or even Marbury. Something the Knicks couldnt do (and diligently tried to do) all of last season. They could draft Granger or Webster (more likely Webster, Granger WILL NOT fall past Toronto) and have him ride. Cuz, you tell me anyone is gonna pay Thomas, Hardaway, and say even Houston a combined what, $35 million to sit on the bench. Not gonna happen. You need to know how the the interior things work in order to know Tomas "could" draft a guy like Granger, but if he doesnt find a way to dump players (which again he couldnt do last season) it's gonna just strap your team even more. We have noticed the plethora of 6-8 to 6-9 power forwards on their roster too right? Also a clump of players Thomas can't dump. You can't simply draft on the blind assumption you'll be able to get rid of certain players, just not how the leauge works. And, I'll see you in Chicago. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KICKSDADDY613:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]

    Now let me inform you on a few things. One, Houstin is currently furiously rehabing, and is making a HUGE push to come back. (last word I received on him was right from the team physician and asst. trainer) So as of right now, is status, major question, but not out. Penny, yes, hasnt played any real quality ball in 5 years, but point is, he's still on the roster. Same with Tim Thomas. Now, you wanna move Crawford down to the point, and drop Marbury, I'm kool with that. however, you are assuming that if they draft Granger (or Webster for that matter) that they can successfully trade Hardaway, Thomas, or even Marbury. Something the Knicks couldnt do (and diligently tried to do) all of last season. They could draft Granger or Webster (more likely Webster, Granger WILL NOT fall past Toronto) and have him ride. Cuz, you tell me anyone is gonna pay Thomas, Hardaway, and say even Houston a combined what, $35 million to sit on the bench. Not gonna happen. You need to know how the the interior things work in order to know Tomas "could" draft a guy like Granger, but if he doesnt find a way to dump players (which again he couldnt do last season) it's gonna just strap your team even more. We have noticed the plethora of 6-8 to 6-9 power forwards on their roster too right? Also a clump of players Thomas can't dump. You can't simply draft on the blind assumption you'll be able to get rid of certain players, just not how the leauge works. And, I'll see you in Chicago. [​IMG]</div>
    I know Houston is furiously rehabbing, and I have faith in him, but last time I checked, he was furiously rehabbing in the beginning of this season as well and we both know how that ended up. Even if he does find a way to recover from this injury, who knows how good of a player he will be. Many doctors and trainers said even though he might be able to play again, regaining his play to the level he was a couple of years ago is most likely out of the question because no one has come back from that injury the same way. In addition, Houston is 34 years old trying to pull this off! If Houston was younger, than it would be fine, but he is on the route to retirement and even said he might not return after his contract expires in 2007. I?m not at all counting Houston out, but his role will most likely be reduced regardless the condition he comes in. I?m speaking realistically about his future based on what I?ve seen, heard, and know.

    Well there is a big difference from this season and last season and the difference is expiring contracts. Teams are more likely to bite on a trade where they have expiring contracts. We?ve seen this many times and especially during the deadline, where anything can happen. Remember Baron Davis was given up for Dale Davis just because he was worth 14 million off the cap. I?m sure any rebuilding team would be more than happy receiving 15-30 million off their cap; even though the player(s) have to ride their bench for the next two months. If worse comes to worse and the Knicks can?t seem to find a taker for their two huge expiring contracts, than would it be out of the question to simply let them expire in 2006? So basically, the very worse case scenario for Granger would be splitting some minutes with some players for a year. Plus he?s so incredibly versatile that his minutes probably won?t be too drastically effected playing multiple positions. Even if Granger doesn?t get to New York because someone else grabs him, Webster will more than likely be on the board and the same thing will apply for him.
     
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    ^^^^
    All very good points and now you're making some sense. Although I'm unsure as to when specifically Hardaway and Thomas and also Houston and Marbury for that matter, when their's expire. I would love nothing more than for the Knicks to contend again. And I mean contend. Not waste a playoff spot like they did 2 seasons ago. Best case scenario, New York pulls off an amazing trade to dump the glop of crap at the 3 and 4. Spends this year developing talent like Ariza and say Webster. At 30, grab yourself an all around proven guy (think Dallas nabbing Josh Howard with the last pick in '03 Draft) And finally bring in a REAL center. I would like a lineup of Crawford, Webster, Ariza, Rose, and (enter free agent/trade pick up here) Bring in (pick #30) Julius Hodge, Tim Thomas, Sweetney off the bench. (this is if we could dump Marbury and Kurt Thomas. Ariza starts for defense. Thomas can play 2,3, or 4. And in that trade we bring in a defensive stopper down low) Just my idea. In a couple years, that young developing roster could be something, as well as having the pieces to send to Cleveland in a sign and trade when LeBron wants to swing over to MSG.......lol
     

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