Official JBB 2005 NBA Mock Draft (v5.0)

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Believe me, CourtVision, we're in the same boat about Ukic. If we were ready to put him in our mock draft, we would probably put him somewhere around that #16 pick, perhaps even as high as #14 to the Timberwolves. However, Frye is still a great pick for the Raptors. Without Ukic in consideration, you have Louis Williams, Dee Brown, Monta Ellis, and John Gilchrist as your best available Point Guards. Do any of those guys sound like #16 picks to you? Last year the Raptors drafted Araujo, the best available Center (in their minds), despite the fact that he wasn't the best prospect available, and look what happened; they were burned. Do you think Babcock would make the same mistake again? The Raptors still need that Center, Frye is the best Center available (arguably), and the Raptors have been rumored to take him as high as #7. What's not to like about that pick? I thought that a draft of Granger, Frye, Ellis, and Wade would be a dream come true for Raptors fans. They satisfy every one of their needs.</div>I see where you are coming from but it is still unfathomable for me to see Frye go that high or even in the 1st round for that matter. He wasn't even the best player or 2nd best player in Arizona and he consistently underachieved throughout his whole college career. I remember that you said it best when you compared this guy to Loren Woods, another underachieving centre from Arizona. We already have a player of his calibre on our roster.

I am still a firm believer that even at the 16th pick the Raptors will select the best talent available regardless of position. Maybe even Villanueva (depending on his workouts) or even Warrick if he falls that far. Ukic is a definite possibility if he stays. So many other players I would select ahead of Frye but that is just because I am not high on him at all.

BTW Do you guys think that Antoine Wright could shoot up to the 7th pick come draft time? I heard his workouts have been lights out so far and his upside is much more of that than Granger. He plays the same position, Granger is more solid but Wright has more upside. Just a thought.

 

Thanks again for all the kind/helpful comments everyone!

D-Mob:
Bernie Bickerstaff has said that with the #13 pick, he thinks he'll be drafting a player who can start next season. With the Bobcats having Deron Williams, Emeka Okafor, Primoz Brezec, and Gerald Wallace as a <u>restricted</u> free agent, they're set everywhere except for at Shooting Guard, so that can only mean that Bickerstaff would be looking for a starting Shooting Guard with the #13 pick. The Bobcats were also hoping to spark interest in their Charlotte fan base by drafting a kid who went to one of the Carolina schools, which is one of the reasons they'll be trying to land Chris Paul or Marvin Williams through trade. If they can't land either, Rashad McCants, as a local and the best available Shooting Guard, just makes sense. Not to mention, McCants' stock is rising, as he has shown several teams through workouts that his attitude has changed.

KicksDaddy:
It was always former General Manager John Weisbrod's plan to move Francis to Shooting Guard and start Nelson at the point, but you're right, it's probably better for them to play Steve Francis at the point. However, that's not necessarily something that will effect their draft choice. There is a good field of free agent Shooting Guards this summer, and if worst comes to worst, you still have Doug Christie. Also, rumor has it, Dwight Howard grew to 7-0 and they'll explore playing him at Center. If they choose to do so, who would they start at Power Forward? Pat Garrity? Grant Hill is also getting up there in age and probably only has a few good years left in him. This was a really hard pick to make and we did give consideration to Wright though, it could have gone either way.

By the way, I'm looking forward to your next mock. You should have an advantage as far as accuracy is concerned after going to Chicago. Good luck.

Shaqatak32:
We didn't feel like Sun Ming Ming would either stay in the draft or be drafted. You have to keep in mind all of the baggage that comes with a player of his size, including medical issues, speed issues, and a just overall lack of skill. He would really benefit from one more year of training, and that's the route we believe he'd take.

CourtVision:
With the #16 pick, it's very hard to think the Raptors would pass up Channing Frye. They've showed him too much interest with their #7 pick to let him go, and he fits in perfectly with the team. I agree with you that he is nothing special, but in this draft, height means everything to some teams. Golden State, Orlando, and New Jersey are three teams that have supposedly been gushing over his size and would be very inclined to take him with their first picks. The only reason we didn't have Frye going to New Jersey was because Chris Taft was still on the board in our mock draft. Also, yes, Wright's stock is skyrocketing, and there is a chance he could go to the Raptors at #7. Remember, this isn't our final mock draft. v6 is in the works, and he's one of the players we'll be paying particular attention to.

 

Great job on this mock draft . Best one on the net thats for sure!

 

hey i like your picks but someone will pick tourney hero KEVIN PITTSNOGLE

PITTSNOGGLED 4 LIFE

 

It would be great if Louis Williams stayed in ATL.

 

I have to be frank, I wasn't a fan of your earlier drafts... but this one is very, very, very, very good. I like the Graham to 'Sota and Taft to NJ (Kidd will sort him out) picks. Even the ones I disagree with you've put good reasons up.

A couple of things I can't see happening though:

Orlando would take Antoine Wright over Hakim Warrick, if he is available.
I don't think Denver take Sean May. They are way too stacked on the frontline for that.

Also, I believe Tiago Splitter has withdrawn.

 

great draft guys! i would love Granger, and i would give frye a chance

 

I really dont think Lakers will take Jarret Jack @ 10 .
I Also dont think May could drop to 20th.. this guy looks so good.

But then again, you prob know more than me.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">I see where you are coming from but it is still unfathomable for me to see Frye go that high or even in the 1st round for that matter. He wasn't even the best player or 2nd best player in Arizona and he consistently underachieved throughout his whole college career. I remember that you said it best when you compared this guy to Loren Woods, another underachieving centre from Arizona. We already have a player of his calibre on our roster.</div>
Underachieved? 2nd best? You must of not seen many Arizona games this year! Channing Frye was the only guaranteed dominant force all year. He took on Andrew Bogut this year, and carried the team in that game, considering Salim only took 1 shot. Then he can block shots and take any big man down low with his post moves. I would rather take Channing Frye over the players with POTENTIAL that are lazy, like Taft and Villanueva, they'll be by Frye in the NBA. Frye doesn't miss easy shots down low, I recall on the trip to Washington he was 24-28 on field goals. Then a rare thing that he can do for a big man is he shoots 90% free throw shooting. That's a big plus for most big men who get fouled down on the post. He also has a 18-foot jumpshot that's CONSISTENT thats better than some Small Forwards. He also does something that is good too, if you play defense, when a shot get put up on continuation, he blocks it so they don't have a chance for a "And 1". I just don't see how he underachieved in college. He wasn't even a top recruit when he came in, and over the years in college he improved steadily. Then everyone says he underachieved all through College, no he didn't he actually did better than he was suppose too. So if you want to compare him to Loren Woods, who only could block shots, you can because in the real world he will be a good center down the road.

 

Nice Mock Draft, there are 5 players im surpirsed to see in the 2nd round instead of first though, Luther Head, Dee Brown, Salim Stoudamire, Francisco Garcia, and Ronny Turiaf.

 

Nice Job, gotta say those scouting reports are nice. Positions were solid, a lot of hard work nice going.

I hope Blatche falls to 30, kid has drawn some Bosh comparisons which would be nice and considering he's at 30 it's not much a risk and we could wait him out. He dominated that Jordan classic or whatever. I like him alot. Not gonna lie, I'd be mildly dissapointed with Martell Webster at 8, he's good, but he's not BPA, and he's not a good enough guard to bypass taking an obvious need. Hell I can't even take him over Antoine Wright at 8.


Plus where's the love for Jawad Williams! Come on if he's not on UNC he's a star in college, if the Knicks passed him up at 54 I'd be pissed (yes I am a huge UNC fan.)

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Denver take Sean May. They are way too stacked on the frontline for that.</div>

You realize what kind of a North Carolina-freak that George Karl is, and you also realize that Sean May would be considered a steal at #20, right? The Nuggets are a playoff team next year and are just a solid Shooting Guard away from competing next season. They can get that solid Shooting Guard with the #22 pick. There is no reason for drafting two. So after that, I think that it just makes sense to draft the best player available. Having Kenyone Martin, Nene, and Sean May would be a problem, but wouldn't that be a good problem to have?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting knicksfan4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Plus where's the love for Jawad Williams! Come on if he's not on UNC he's a star in college, if the Knicks passed him up at 54 I'd be pissed (yes I am a huge UNC fan.)</div>

Well, it's simply a very deep draft this year. Jawad Williams also didn't further his cause any at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. I think Sean Banks is a much better pick for the Knicks. After being NCAA Freshman of the year in 2004, he was a projected lottery pick. Had it not been for his attitude and academic problems in school this year, he'd still be on that level. I've got to say that I'm honestly shocked at what little publicity he is getting, because he does have the talent to be a solid NBA player. If a player like McCants' attitude problems (although less severe) can be looked over for his talent, then why not Sean Banks (and Pierre Pierce)? In my opinion, Banks at #54 is a great steal for New York.

Again, thanks for the positive feedback!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">You realize what kind of a North Carolina-freak that George Karl is, and you also realize that Sean May would be considered a steal at #20, right? The Nuggets are a playoff team next year and are just a solid Shooting Guard away from competing next season. They can get that solid Shooting Guard with the #22 pick. There is no reason for drafting two. So after that, I think that it just makes sense to draft the best player available. Having Kenyone Martin, Nene, and Sean May would be a problem, but wouldn't that be a good problem to have?



Well, it's simply a very deep draft this year. Jawad Williams also didn't further his cause any at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. I think Sean Banks is a much better pick for the Knicks. After being NCAA Freshman of the year in 2004, he was a projected lottery pick. Had it not been for his attitude and academic problems in school this year, he'd still be on that level. I've got to say that I'm honestly shocked at what little publicity he is getting, because he does have the talent to be a solid NBA player. If a player like McCants' attitude problems (although less severe) can be looked over for his talent, then why not Sean Banks (and Pierre Pierce)? In my opinion, Banks at #54 is a great steal for New York.

Again, thanks for the positive feedback!</div>


I like Banks too, his game is nice although he is selfish. He has tons of ability though he could be a player in the league, your right that say he had a good sophomore year he's in the lottery. And it's a breath of fresh air to hear SOMEONE talk about Pierre Pierce, did this guy impress no one else, on top of playing good defense he is an all around solid offensive player, this guy is good enough to make an NBA team in need of a guard, I believe he could play Point.

Again, the bias for Jawad Williams kicks in but he can play for real, I'd hope he goes 61 (undrafted) and the Knicks sign him, he is versatile (as is Banks) with a good inside/mid range game, solid all around player.

& contrary to my earlier opinion, Martell Webster has been lights out in workouts and has impressed Portland enough that they may TRADE DOWN with Toronto (yes giving up Gerald Green) to take him (7 + 16 for 3).

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting knicksfan4life:</div><div class="quote_post">And it's a breath of fresh air to hear SOMEONE talk about Pierre Pierce, did this guy impress no one else, on top of playing good defense he is an all around solid offensive player, this guy is good enough to make an NBA team in need of a guard, I believe he could play Point.
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Definitely. I was a huge fan of him after his Freshman year, and I kept reminding people that he was still out there when he was suspended for his Sophomore year. I think the kid has the talent to be a real stud in the NBA. Physically, he's amazing. He's athletic, quick, and tall (if you want to call him a Point Guard). He was the primary reason Iowa was as good as they were at the beginning of the season and the primary reason they fell off at the end. His future has always been in his hands though, and he keeps making stupid decisions off the court. If he wants to straighten up and make the NBA, he can. It's all up to him now.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Underachieved? 2nd best? You must of not seen many Arizona games this year! Channing Frye was the only guaranteed dominant force all year. He took on Andrew Bogut this year, and carried the team in that game, considering Salim only took 1 shot. Then he can block shots and take any big man down low with his post moves. I would rather take Channing Frye over the players with POTENTIAL that are lazy, like Taft and Villanueva, they'll be by Frye in the NBA. Frye doesn't miss easy shots down low, I recall on the trip to Washington he was 24-28 on field goals. Then a rare thing that he can do for a big man is he shoots 90% free throw shooting. That's a big plus for most big men who get fouled down on the post. He also has a 18-foot jumpshot that's CONSISTENT thats better than some Small Forwards. He also does something that is good too, if you play defense, when a shot get put up on continuation, he blocks it so they don't have a chance for a "And 1". I just don't see how he underachieved in college. He wasn't even a top recruit when he came in, and over the years in college he improved steadily. Then everyone says he underachieved all through College, no he didn't he actually did better than he was suppose too. So if you want to compare him to Loren Woods, who only could block shots, you can because in the real world he will be a good center down the road.</div>
I'd tend to agree,though perhaps with a little less enthusiasm. nevertheless,as a Warrior fan I'd prefer him over Vasquez. Frye has improved consistantly and added strength. This years version is significantly tougher,and he always ran well,had skills. A lot of teams have been suckered when speculating on big "projects". Some will get suckered again,no doubt,but one will go with Frye. He may never be a big star but he won't suck either. He won't win every matchup,but won't look like a stiff-plus-no contract buyout.

If Pierre Pirce is cleared,he'll have walk-on offers. He can play. He is no Kobe,however and no team will draft him,it would be bad PR. As a walk on,it's a different spin.

Blatche will go higher. Despite a rep for too perimeter he averaged about 16 boards the last 2 years and in All Star play,chose to play a post game...and was MVP. The Warrior's missed taking KG and Amare,looking too much at gossip and too little and effectiveness on the floor

 

Does anyone know why Brandon Rush isn't in the Draft...

And what school he's going to since he didn't declare like he said he would.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">So is that 7-2 Lithuanian guy pulling out too? Martynas Andruivecius or whatever his name is, because he isn't on here either, unless i'm blind, (could be?)</div>
I never heard that. even i`m from lithuania, i never heard about his pulling off to 2006.., but i see in nbadraft.net 2006 Mock Draft that he could be third. thats great!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Does anyone know why Brandon Rush isn't in the Draft...

And what school he's going to since he didn't declare like he said he would.</div>

He did declare, he's just unlikely to get drafted.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">And what school he's going to since he didn't declare like he said he would.</div>
Oklahoma or Illinois. It's unlikely that he pulls out of the draft, though.

 

Best mock draft ive seen