Steve Nash or Jason Kidd

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  1. da pimp 1

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    Which is the best point gaurd of the last 5 years.
     
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    I think Jason Kidd is definately the best point guard of the last 5 years. nash had a better season last year. You can't forget Kidd made it to the NBA finals 2 years in a row.
     
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    Nash had one really good year, Kidd has been good every year. Nash never made it to the finals, Kidd has made it many times. Nash's only real advantage is shooting while Kidd scores closer to the rim more often and plays great defense. I'd have to give it to Kidd, though Nash had a spectacular year this year.
     
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    I have to agree Kidd has been real good in the past seasons, however I see Nash having a better future that Jason. I give props to JKidd he's awesome, but his time is over.
     
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    Im gonna ake JKidd. He's the better player. He took a team to the finals twice while Nash has never been there. Kidd is a better scorer and I think he is a better leader.
     
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    Nash is a greater offensive player than Kidd. They're passing abilities are comparable, but Nash is a far more efficient and effective scorer. Kidd is better in pretty much every other facet, however. Defense, rebounding, lose balls, steals.
     
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    Kidd has been better. Nash had his best season and i respect him for that. i still think kidd has couple of years in him though. Nash has never brought a team to the finals and until he does he cant be considered better than kidd
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Kidd has been better. Nash had his best season and i respect him for that. i still think kidd has couple of years in him though. Nash has never brought a team to the finals and until he does he cant be considered better than kidd</div>

    Come on. Kidd took his teams to the Finals in a VERY weak Eastern conference. Kidd has been a great player, and I'd say overall he's had a better 5-year stretch than Nash, but don't exaggerate the accomplishment of taking the Nets to the Finals. There's no doubt in my mind that Nash's teams would have come out of the East as well (both his Dallas teams and the current Suns team) during those years.
     
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    Yea but Kidd's teams had way less talent than the Mavs or Suns that Nash played for. Not to take anything away from Nash, but Kidd has done ore with less than Nash.
     
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    Yea but Kidd's teams had way less talent than the Mavs or Suns that Nash played for. Not to take anything away from Nash, but Kidd has done more with less than Nash.
     
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    Yah, I still wouldn't mind having Kidd play for the Lakers....
     
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    Kidd. No question.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea but Kidd's teams had way less talent than the Mavs or Suns that Nash played for. Not to take anything away from Nash, but Kidd has done ore with less than Nash.</div>
    You talk about the talent like it's always been there. Steve made Amare an all-star, he made Q the three point champion, he made Joe Johnson even better. The talent was made by Nash. The season before Nash they only won 20 some games. So don't talk about the talent. However JKidd is great too.
     
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    No question Steve made them better, but all of those guys were young adn ready to break out this year. Steve has had Dirk, Amare, Finley(at his peak), Joe Johnson. Kidd hasn't had that. Nedw Jersey was dead without him. Look at the way he made VC better.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">No question Steve made them better, but all of those guys were young adn ready to break out this year. Steve has had Dirk, Amare, Finley(at his peak), Joe Johnson. Kidd hasn't had that. Nedw Jersey was dead without him. Look at the way he made VC better.</div>

    Yeah VC is playing great but they didn't get too far and anyways kidd took his team to the finals in a very weak divison. Any of the top 8 west teams could have made it to the finals in the east that season. The west is clearly more competitve. In addition, Kidd was in the west for a long time and didn't take anybody to the finals. Nash has gone further in the west. Not to take anything away from JKidd he is one of my favorite players. By the way who is Telfair?
     
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    Sebastian Telfair was drafted by Portland last year. He is the cousin of Stephon Marbury. He is going to be a stud PG, and has tons of potential.
     
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    Ok so you guys think that Jason Kidd has been the better point guard. I think they are the two best point guards (true point guards) in the league. Nobody can even touch them. If i had to choose one of them to start a franchise i would choose Steve Nash.
     
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    ^^i was just wonderin. When Nash and Kidd first came into the league, which one would of u have chosen back then and not rite now?
     
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    Jason Kidd is by far the better PG. His court vision is parallel that of Magic,not to mention he's unstoppable on a break. He can post, rebound, and the biggest difference between the two.... defend.
     
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    jason kidd has been having great seasons since his rookie year. hes avereges 15 6 and 10 over his career. i think hes like the only pg in the league to lead his team in rebounding. hes in the top 5 i think in triple doubles behing the big o, magic,wilt, and michael jordan i believe(correct me if im wrong i cant find it anywhere)



    Jason Kidd
    Career Highlights
    2004-05 NBA All-Defensive Second Team
    2003-04 All-NBA First Team
    2003 USA Basketball Men's Senior National Team
    2002-03 All-NBA Second Team
    Led NBA in assists in 2002-03 with 8.9 apg
    Named First Team All-NBA four consecutive seasons (1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01and 2001-02).
    Named First Team All-Defensive three times (1998-99, 2000-01, 2001-02) and to the second team in 1999-2000 and 2003-04.
    Seven-time NBA All-Star
    Became only the fourth player in NBA history to lead the league in assists three-straight seasons - 1999-01 (John Stockton, 1988-96; Oscar Robertson, 1964-66; Bob Cousy, 1953-60)
    Won a gold medal in the 2000 Sydney Olympics.
    First Maverick to start an All-Star Game (1996).
    Became the sixth fastest NBA player to record 5000 career assists (531 games), as he finished with three points, 15 assists and eight rebounds in 44 minutes at Dallas on 1/21/2002
    Tied a career-high with 16 rebounds while scoring 16 points, dishing off seven assists and collecting a team-high three steals in 43 minutes of action at Orlando on 4/11/2002
    Set the Nets all-time single season triple-double mark (8), and in doing so, became the Nets all-time leader in triple-doubles
    Set the Nets all-time single season assist mark by recording 808 assists
    Became first Nets player ever to win ?Eastern Conference Player of the Month? for November by averaging 13.3 points, 9.6 assists, 7.6 rebounds and 1.8 steals in leading the Nets to a 10-5 record and their best start in franchise history
    Ranked 2nd in the NBA in assists (9.9 apg), 3rd in steals (2.13 spg) and ranked 4th in double-doubles (44) in 2001-02
    Recorded first career playoff triple-double with 22 points, 10 rebounds and personal playoff-high 16 assists in Game 4 against the Lakers in the 2000 Western Conference Semifinals
    Named NBA Player of the Week (7th career, 5th as Sun) on 4/2/01 after he averaged 31.0 points, 7.0 rebounds, 8.8 assists and 4.3 steals and shot .513 from the field during a 4-0 week with wins over the Lakers, Cleveland, Houston and Milwaukee
    Exploded for career-high 43 points at Houston on 3/29/01
    Named NBA Player of the Month for April 1999, averaging 20.1 pointes, 10.4 assists, 6.7 rebounds and 2.38 steals per game and logging two triple-doubles, for the 10-6 Suns
    Topped 700 assists and 500 rebounds in the same season for the second time in 1997-98, joining Robertson and Magic Johnson (six times each) as the only players in NBA history to do so more than once
    Established a Mavericks' single-game franchise record with a career-high 25 assists against the Jazz on 2/8/96 and notched a Mavericks' single-season franchise record 783 assists in 1995-96
    Was named 1994-95 NBA co-Rookie of the Year (with Grant Hill) and was a unanimous selection to the 1994-95 NBA All-Rookie First Team
    Named Schick NBA Rookie of the Month for March 1995
    Participated in the Schick Rookie Game during the 1995 NBA All-Star Weekend in Phoenix
    Won Naismith Award as nation's top high school player after senior season at St. Joseph of Notre Dame (Alameda, CA), averaging 25.0 points, 10.0 assists, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 steals
    Parade and USA Today High School Player of the Year
    Played in the McDonald's High School All-American Game


    Nash only had one GREAT year. other than this year nash has only been on the 3rd team all nba and kidd didnt make all nba this year cause he was hurt for about a quarter of the season,
     

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