According to nbadraft.net Deron Williams worked out with the Magic because the Magic are in talks with the Hornets about a trade involving Jameer Nelson, 11th pick,and maybe a a future 1st or a player to be named for the 4th pick maybe Deron Williams. What do you guys think?
Makes no sense for the Magic to make this deal, and lose two players for Deron Williams. I think this is a smokescreen by the Magic personally.
If they do it, I wouldn' be too surprised. The Magic have been looking for a great PG ever since Hardaway left. Maybe they don't see neither Jameer nor Francis as their future PG and want to try out someone else. Who knows, this organisation has a bad history regarding PGs and the draft.
NO! Don't trade Jameer and all those picks just for Deron Williams! Jameer is going to be just as good as Williams and I would hate to see him go PLUS picks. This is terrible and if this trade goes down, it will just be another example of why I hate the Magic organization.
Nelson and Dwight will be very good together I hope this trade doesnt go down. I would like both 2nds for a late 1st but not Jmeer for Williams no thanks. We need a Gm who can do trades in which we benefit not the other team.
If this trade goes down the Magic would be basically killing any chance of building a future. If this does not pan out. Considering they already traded a future first rounder to the Nuggets last season to aquire Jameer Nelson. If this trade goes through they will not have a first round pick for the next couple years. Unless they aquire some through trade. Or the picks they trade are lottery protected. I am also a huge Jameer Nelson fan so I hope this is just rumors. Jameer averaged 11.6 points per game last season, after he was given the starting spot. I do not see why you are ready to give up on this guy after one season. I mean I know a Francis/Jameer back court is short, but talent is one thing they do not lack. I am just praying this does not turn out like past moves the Magics have made with players like Maggette, Miller, etc.
Stupid Deal. Magic could have Nelson-Dwight-13... but they radther have Dwight-Williams. Thats Dumb. 3 Young Studs are better than 2 Young Studs.
Hi everybody, I'm new here, I'm a guy from Europe - Orlando Fan and I've been watching this forum a few weeks. Now I'd like to say a few words in future. First of all some very interesting news concerning the NOH-Orl. Trade. I've read in another forum that this should get a much bigger trade than I thought: The players involved are Stevenson, Cato, Christie, Nelson, our pick this year, a future first, vs. Lynch, Brown and their pick this year. I just can't believe it - anybody know if this is true? This deal is just absolute nonsense for the magic. We lose our future! Nelson and Stevenson, two very good young players and a future first round pick. But we get nothing in return. #4 pick ok not so bad. Brown, this man is old. Lynch? sorry I just don't know this guy. Anybody heard of this deal too? Please tell me that this is a joke...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunser1:</div><div class="quote_post">Hi everybody, I'm new here, I'm a guy from Europe - Orlando Fan and I've been watching this forum a few weeks. Now I'd like to say a few words in future. First of all some very interesting news concerning the NOH-Orl. Trade. I've read in another forum that this should get a much bigger trade than I thought: The players involved are Stevenson, Cato, Christie, Nelson, our pick this year, a future first, vs. Lynch, Brown and their pick this year. I just can't believe it - anybody know if this is true? This deal is just absolute nonsense for the magic. We lose our future! Nelson and Stevenson, two very good young players and a future first round pick. But we get nothing in return. #4 pick ok not so bad. Brown, this man is old. Lynch? sorry I just don't know this guy. Anybody heard of this deal too? Please tell me that this is a joke...</div> First off let me say Welcome to JBB! I look forward to seeing you post and it's good to see more Magic fans. Next, I was mad when I heard about letting Jameer go and I wouldn't even give him and the #11 pick for the #4 pick. Now, if we add all those others players I'm going to very mad and will not like that at all. Like you said, Jameer and Stevenson are two young and talented players. Cato was a good interior defender for us and provided a good spark off the bench. Christie never really heled us a whole lot but was our trade bait for this offseason. I would be really disapointed if this trade went through and I am crossing my fingers that it doesn't happen.
I would be so pissed to see these idiots trade away either nelson,stevenson,or turkalou away just to get another player who's position is deepest on the team. We should keep the 11th pick and concentrate on getting a center. I think sean may would be the perfect fit at 11. I think him and dwight would blend well together. Francis,nelson,stevenson are fine for now. If they are still interested in "another guard" during the first round, then trade cato and a second rounder. I'm tired of cato's half a** attitude and work ethic both on and off the court. He gets tired easily and his offense is most often off than on. We could prob get one of denver two first rounders and then select jarret jack, who is quick and a good slasher. Thats my take on would the magic should do.
Hey guys, Im new to the forum. I was browsing through and figured id throw my two cents in. The trade with NOH looks like its not going down. Thank God. I would not want to throw away what Jameer did last year for someone who hasnt played a game yet. I think if anything lets get rid of what is holding the magic back. Cato and Christie. Cato just didnt show up after he got injured and Christie just never showed up to begin with. Ship those two off to a team looking to clear cap room next year and get a vet PG or vet C that can fill some position now. We cant take a chance on getting another Steven Hunter or Sasser. We have a strong core with Howard, Francis, Hill, Turk, and Nelson. Lets add to that with players that can play now. No more undeveloped rookies and no more vets past their prime. The magic organization has become the retirement organization for the leagues players. Lets changes things around this time and do its the way it needs to be done.
We don?t need to trade away so many players. We have a good team. We only need two more peaces. 1. a shooter (Webster, Granger, Wright,?), 2. a low post player (PF or C ? depends on the position Dwight will play). Trade away Cato and Christie and get a good PF/C in return. This is everything we need. We could switch between a small and a big backcourt (PG: Nelson SG: Francis or PG: Francis SG: #11) supportet by Stevenson and Hill or Turkoglu. Frontcourt: Howard, Battie, Kasun, compensation for Cato+Christie. Those 10 players should be on the roster. Add a few backups and the team roster is complete. 2nd option: PG: Williams SG: Francis SF: Hill / Turkoglu PF: Brown / Battie C: Howard / Kasun Good starting 5 (except Brown ? I really don?t like him just because of his age) but no depth in the backcourt. The first option sounds much better to me than the second.
nah I dun want this to be happened. Nelson showed us something at the second half of the season. Christie 99% is gone next season, Nelson starts at Point, Francis at SG, is always better than getting a rookie (you have no idea how good, or how bad he'll be), why take the risks? I'd say dun waste the players and future picks, on a fresh lookin good rookie... Nelson and D12 look good!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunser1:</div><div class="quote_post">We don?t need to trade away so many players. We have a good team. We only need two more peaces. 1. a shooter (Webster, Granger, Wright,?), 2. a low post player (PF or C ? depends on the position Dwight will play). Trade away Cato and Christie and get a good PF/C in return. This is everything we need. We could switch between a small and a big backcourt (PG: Nelson SG: Francis or PG: Francis SG: #11) supportet by Stevenson and Hill or Turkoglu. Frontcourt: Howard, Battie, Kasun, compensation for Cato+Christie. Those 10 players should be on the roster. Add a few backups and the team roster is complete. 2nd option: PG: Williams SG: Francis SF: Hill / Turkoglu PF: Brown / Battie C: Howard / Kasun Good starting 5 (except Brown ? I really don?t like him just because of his age) but no depth in the backcourt. The first option sounds much better to me than the second.</div> First of all, Welcome to JBB! It's great that so many Magic fans have been signing up lately. I agree with almost everything you said. I think that taking in a player like Kwame Brown may pay off in the future if he starts playing up to his potential. Kwame and Dwight could be a very dangerous combo for several years to come so I wouldn't mind making that move. I agree that we are giving up way to much in the deal and that we are losing our future. Right now, all we have to focus on is either drafting or signing a nice shooter and a nice big man. We have a good starting lineup (if we acquire those guys), we have a good bench, a good coach and a good future. We don't need to go out and make these moves that would give away half of our lineup. We are a good team and stupid trades like this will ruin our playoff chances and our future.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, Welcome to JBB! It's great that so many Magic fans have been signing up lately. I agree with almost everything you said. I think that taking in a player like Kwame Brown may pay off in the future if he starts playing up to his potential. Kwame and Dwight could be a very dangerous combo for several years to come so I wouldn't mind making that move. I agree that we are giving up way to much in the deal and that we are losing our future. Right now, all we have to focus on is either drafting or signing a nice shooter and a nice big man. We have a good starting lineup (if we acquire those guys), we have a good bench, a good coach and a good future. We don't need to go out and make these moves that would give away half of our lineup. We are a good team and stupid trades like this will ruin our playoff chances and our future.</div> Hey Swish think he means P.J. Brown in the NOH trade if it goes down.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, Welcome to JBB! It's great that so many Magic fans have been signing up lately. I agree with almost everything you said. I think that taking in a player like Kwame Brown may pay off in the future if he starts playing up to his potential. Kwame and Dwight could be a very dangerous combo for several years to come so I wouldn't mind making that move. I agree that we are giving up way to much in the deal and that we are losing our future. Right now, all we have to focus on is either drafting or signing a nice shooter and a nice big man. We have a good starting lineup (if we acquire those guys), we have a good bench, a good coach and a good future. We don't need to go out and make these moves that would give away half of our lineup. We are a good team and stupid trades like this will ruin our playoff chances and our future.</div> Well actually it was PJ Brown I was talking about - not Kwame Brown. I would have no problem with the age of Kwame Although Dwight and Kwame could be a fantastic combo... But I agree - we got a very good team right now, just let it develop...
I just saw on reralgm.com that the Magic are staying put at #11 and narrowed its choices to Danny Granger,Hakim Warrick,Martell Webster,Antoine Wright,Channing Frye (no order) im surprised there is no Sean May.
Oh ok lol. Yeah both have their age problems; Kwame is a project while PJ Brown is close to death lol. PJ Brown would be worse IMO.
Yessss! Iam glad were staying at #11 but I dont like the idea of Getting Frye or Warrick. May must have been a smokescreen or when they brought the rest in for a 2nd workout they must have seen something. + the Magic are finally keeping players WHAT! I hope Nelson is happy he sees we really want to keep him and Turk beacuse i bet there names were floating around. We only need to trade Doug and Kato IMO. Maybe Doug to Denver for there 1st rounders or to the Lakers for someone with Luke Walton he can be used by us + Bill Walton will like the team and stop talking bad about it. OT: Anyone know that we dont owe Denver the future pick its the #20 so we would have had 2 1st rounders from the Wizard trade(Haywood). And since we owed them a future 1st thats now theres. Also we should be getting Utahs 2nd rounder from Deshawn trade. Maybe you knew this I might look stupid and late but oh well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh ok lol. Yeah both have their age problems; Kwame is a project while PJ Brown is close to death lol. PJ Brown would be worse IMO.</div> I dun like Kwame as well PJ Brown plays hard...but he's aged, we dun want him Kwame brown...Young? Big potential? #1 pick? I cant really see him have any break-out in his carreer. His attitute (playoff in team), and injuries/playing time really hurts him a lot...he's most probably to become olowokandi I guess
