Age limit, bigger cap, shorter contracts

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  1. CohanHater

    CohanHater JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The salary cap would increase. The current CBA bases the salary cap on BRI. The cap is set at 48 percent of BRI; last year, that came to $43.87 million. According to sources, the owners would agree to increase that percentage to 51 percent, in effect raising the salary cap. Sources say the cap would, in that case, rise to between $47 million and $50 million next season.

    Raises in contracts would be reduced. Under the current CBA, players are allowed maximum raises of 12.5 percent per year if they re-sign with their current team and 10 percent if they sign with a different team in free agency. Under the new proposal, raises would be reduced to 10 percent if a player re-signs with his current team and 8 percent if they sign with a different team in free agency.

    Contract lengths would be reduced by one year. Currently, players can sign a fully guaranteed contract for a maximum of seven years if they re-sign with their current team. Players signing with a new team in free agency can sign a six-year deal. Under the new proposal, maxiumum contract lengths would shorten to five years for players signing with new teams and six years for players re-signing with their current team.</div>

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2091116

    Sounds to me like teams are going to have a lot more to play with this offseason.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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  3. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    The downside is we gave Murph, Jrich the old CBA contracts. Doh! They will sort of be the next Brian Grant/Eddie Jones for a while.
     
  4. CohanHater

    CohanHater JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Because of the time expected to be needed to put the agreement in writing, the upcoming start of the free agent signing period has been moved from July 14 to July 22.</div>
    Makin us wait....
     
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    Kwan1031 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Great news for NBA, and not a bad news for us as well.

    Caproom has been increased. Of course, we probably won't see a dime, due to last offseason's spending, but then, we are not losing any FAs, so it doesn't matter.

    Caproom went up, pie for players also went up quite a bit. So, I assume that luxury tax line also went up. If so, that will help us very much in long term.

    Of course, only downside is that if we didn't resign Richardson and Murphy, we could possibly see 20-30 mils caproom...
     
  6. CohanHater

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    I think it just means that some teams have more room to justify taking what was a borderline bad contract like Foyle's
     
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    Sweet mother of jesus!!!
     
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    I heard that all NBA teams will have an extra spot for a player so the Warriors will be able to carry thirteen players instead of twelve. MMMM who would the Warriors have as the thirteen player? maybe a combo SM Forward Big guard veteran.
     
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    KEY POINTS

    The following are the key points agreed to by the NBA and the Players Association in their new 6-year collective bargaining agreement:

    ? Players will be guaranteed to receive 57% of league revenues (BRI), the same percentage paid to players the last two seasons. (This is the first time the league has ever agreed to guarantee the players an agreed-upon percentage of revenues.)

    ? The Salary Cap will increase from 48% of BRI to 51% of BRI. All Cap exceptions will remain unchanged, including the Mid-Level Exception ($4.9 million per team this past season).

    ? The amount of money that can be withheld from player salaries under the ?escrow? system will be reduced from 10% of salaries in year 1 of the new deal to 9% in years 2 through 5 and 8% in year 6. The 57% escrow level will increase with revenue growth.

    ? The effect of the existing luxury tax on teams will be reduced and there will be no additional taxes. The tax level will be set at 61% of league revenues (the same level as in the 2001-02 ? 2003-04 seasons). Tax treatment for injured players and minimum salary players will be liberalized.

    ? The maximum length of a player contract will be reduced by 1 year, from 7 years for a team?s own players and 6 years for other players to 6 years and 5 years.

    ? The league will guarantee that, on average, all teams will have 14-player rosters.

    ? The maximum annual increases in multi-year player contracts will be reduced from 12.5% for a team?s own players and 10% for other players to 10.5% and 8%.

    ? Players will be subject to 4 random drug tests per season and penalties for use of performance-enhancing drugs will be increased.

    ? The age limit for entering the draft will increase from 18 to 19 (plus one year removed from high school).

    ? Players will have the right to an arbitrator?s review of Commissioner suspensions for on-court misconduct of more than 12 games (currently, no arbitrator review is permitted regardless of the length of the suspension).

    ? Players in their first two seasons in the league may be placed on teams in the NBA Development League for skills development.

    ? There will be an increase in the minimum salary and benefits. Pension benefits will be increased subject to IRS approval.
     
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    upsidedownside7 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Well this is another reason to draft BAP regardless of position. We aren't as close to the luxury tax, we can use the MLE for a vet and we would be in position to take someone booming with potential instead of being desperate for help.
     
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    Thanks for the info Map. If what Duckmyster said is true. I think one of our second reounders will be playing [​IMG]
     
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    I'm so glad they agreed to a new CBA without having to go through a lockout this summer. I'm generally happy with the new CBA, the only things I would have liked to have had as well are 1) contract lengths shortened another year and 2) the implementation of a super luxury tax for the teams that went way over the salary cap.

    One thing I'm confused about is that the new CBA raises the minimum draft age to 19, yet the D league lowered it's minimum age from 20 to 18. With the exception of the 18 year olds in this year's draft, what 18 year olds will be eligible for the D league?

    One other note about the D league: from what I've heard, most of the euros would prefer to stay in the euro leagues instead of enter the draft knowing they'll end up in the D league, since the competition in the euro leagues is much better.
     
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    Teams will also be able to end the charade of putting a player on the injury list.
    The injury list will be gone and it will be replaced by the active or inactive list.
    Finally no more bogus injuries.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">Well this is another reason to draft BAP regardless of position. We aren't as close to the luxury tax, we can use the MLE for a vet and we would be in position to take someone booming with potential instead of being desperate for help.</div>

    Well, I don't know about that. Sure, we are not close to the luxury tax right now, but we will very well be in few years. And, problem is that none of our big contracts, Davis, Richardson, Murphy, Fisher, Foyle, end anytime soon and will be increased 12.5% every year, while we have to resign upcoming FAs. So, if we just think about right now and dump more money on other players, we will see a hell in few years.

    In essence, I guess players are getting more money from NBA overall, while owners got other extra stuffs. And, each side should be content with this new CBA, since neither has clear advantage over other sides. I am bit surprised how owners gave up year-to-year aspects without much resistance, such as 14 men rosters, less escrow tax, and increased caproom, which will increase their spending year-to-year. I guess NBA is doing quite well, so that owners went for other stuffs such as age limits, shorter contracts for resigning and rookies, drug tests and % increases for contracts, which impacts long term view, instead of short term benefit.

    Well, both sides will finalize the deal in... Las Vegas? I guess no problem will happen in there [​IMG]
     
  15. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    The one problem with the D-league elligbility for 18 year olds is, which kid will skip a free ride to college to possibly end up floundering in the D-league? I think this pretty much eliminates any chance an 18 year old will jump straight to the NBA like wtwalker pointed out unless the 18 year old doesn't like school. On the other hand, I think it could improve the quality of the league a tad and guys like K.G. T-mac, Kobe, and Lebron will find some way to succeed even if they can't make the H.S. jump to the pros right away. And if someone has a disappointing freshman year in college, some team won't get stuck with a Dasagna Diop, Dajaun Wagner, Kwame Brown, or a Darius Miles or whoever until that player is ready to show consistency and maturity at the college level.
     
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    the custodian hit it right on the head!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">
    One thing I'm confused about is that the new CBA raises the minimum draft age to 19, yet the D league lowered it's minimum age from 20 to 18. With the exception of the 18 year olds in this year's draft, what 18 year olds will be eligible for the D league?
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    undrafted hs players this year, and/or hs players who can't go to college and go straight to the d league, which we might see a lot of....mayo could finish high school, not go to college, and sign w/ a team that puts him in the d league and call him up...
     
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    In a rarare sweeping move,the NBA got rid of much of the irrationality that existed-and the Warriors were often victims of. The extra cap room and bigger roster helps us. The cap,briefly,won't be such a hassle,and we can have some REGULAR depth with a 14 man team rather than 10-day guys passing through. If we trade nobody,Dunleavy,Fish,White,Cheaney allreturn-we have roster space for our 3 draft picks. If we dealt 2 players for 1 pick,we'd have room for that pick also,plus a free agent. I still don't like a pure fishing expedition with pick #9. I have gotten a lot more interested in Blatche and Bynum lately,and where they actually get picked is still hard to guess,but I would not be stunned if both went top 15. Dwayne Jones stays in the Draft-will he last till 40? Will we move up enough to grab him? He is a PERFECT project,because a lot of his game is already big league......and the price is nice.

    The Murphy/J Rich deals are not a negative,they are key players and we won't need to worry about losing them. Fisher's deal is still an overpay,especially in a few more years. Dunleavy is still tradable,other teams will have more cap space too, but he's also more keepable now. More cap headroom around the league can mean some trade possibilities open up,but aside from picks,Tyson Chandler is the only one i'd think hard about. Someone may call Mully with a deal to good to pass on,but our current crew+drafted rookies should win next season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Map1986:</div><div class="quote_post">undrafted hs players this year, and/or hs players who can't go to college and go straight to the d league, which we might see a lot of....mayo could finish high school, not go to college, and sign w/ a team that puts him in the d league and call him up...</div>

    I heard that OJ Mayo is 17 NOW,I know he was a year older than a typical soph. If so,he's 19 when he leaves HS,which may mean OJ Mayo and Greg Oden are the top 2 in the 07 draft.

    There are a few 5th year prep schools like Oak Hills that are basketball factories. A high-end prospect could go there instead of NBDL for a year-then,as a 19yr old,to the NBA
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Map1986:</div><div class="quote_post">undrafted hs players this year, and/or hs players who can't go to college and go straight to the d league, which we might see a lot of....mayo could finish high school, not go to college, and sign w/ a team that puts him in the d league and call him up...</div>
    But if I remember correctly, the D league (prior to the new CBA) wasn't open to anyone who didn't go through the NBA draft. As I recall it was because Stern didn't want to allow college players to threaten their coaches with the idea of going to the D league for a year (instead of transfering to another college which would force them to sit out a year).

    I haven't heard of a chance to this rule for the new D league, but I'm also not 100% sure this was the rule to begin with. But if it was the rule, I guess it'd have to change for the very reason you mentioned if the NBA was going to raise their age limit to 19.
     

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