Chicago Bulls MVP

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  1. Midnight Green

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    Well since we do not have a draft pick this year this board has been kind of dead the last few days besides for Curry updates. So I thought I would start this thread to get peoples opinions. Who do you feel was the Bulls MVP for the 2005 NBA season. As some hardcore Bulls fans on this site may know each year the team gives out its own award for MVP of the team. Last season Kirk Hinrich won it the season before that Jalen Rose was the team MVP. This year they kind of really did not have won they named the whole team MVP's.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Chicago Bulls announced today that the entire team has been named the CDW/IBM MVP for the 2004.05 season.

    In an unprecedented selection, the team?s play and cohesiveness overshadowed individual performances, as the team doubled its win total from the previous season and earned its first postseason bid since 1998.</div>
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    I would like to know in Bulls fans opinion if you had to pick one player to be the season MVP who would it be? In my opinion though Ben Gordon was good this season I would give it to Eddy Curry.

    A MVP is a player a team can not afford to lose Curry anchored the Bulls down low, and as they showed in the plyoffs they are not the same team without him. He also commited himself to the team before the season even started losing weight, and getting into shape. Anyway what is your opinion on the MVP?
     
  2. MiamiBalla12

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    As much as I like Ben Gordon im going to have to say Eddy Curry was the Bulls Mvp for 2004-05 season. He matured and showed he could be a dominant big man in this league. He was the leading scorer for are team and the one player I thought we needed the most in are 1st round series vs the wizards. Unfortunately we lost him for the last few weeks of the season and the playoffs due to an irregular heartbeat. We had no low post presence and had to rely on our guards for offense in that series because curry wasnt there. IMO if he would have been healthy and been able to play, that series would have gone the other way.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting miamiballa12:</div><div class="quote_post">As much as I like Ben Gordon im going to have to say Eddy Curry was the Bulls Mvp for 2004-05 season. He matured and showed he could be a dominant big man in this league. He was the leading scorer for are team and the one player I thought we needed the most in are 1st round series vs the wizards. Unfortunately we lost him for the last few weeks of the season and the playoffs due to an irregular heartbeat. We had no low post presence and had to rely on our guards for offense in that series because curry wasnt there. IMO if he would have been healthy and been able to play, that series would have gone the other way.</div>

    Couldnt have said it any betta The Bulls needed Curry down the stretch and need him because he gives them something they can go to down low. He is that teams MVP because the Bulls need him more then any other player
     
  4. Noir

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    I have to say i'm a bit suprised everyone agrees on Curry so far. I admit he is *potentially* our most dominant player, but you can't look past the fact that a lot of games have been won this year with Curry on the bench during key stretches. And in my opinion, over the whole season, he was not consistent enough to get my vote.

    Defense was the key for the Bulls this season, second best team defense and all. So my vote goes to a player that was a key part of that area: Chandler. He just owned the paint during the 4th quarter of most games. (Hinrich being a very, very close second.
     
  5. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Noir:</div><div class="quote_post">I have to say i'm a bit suprised everyone agrees on Curry so far. I admit he is *potentially* our most dominant player, but you can't look past the fact that a lot of games have been won this year with Curry on the bench during key stretches. And in my opinion, over the whole season, he was not consistent enough to get my vote.

    Defense was the key for the Bulls this season, second best team defense and all. So my vote goes to a player that was a key part of that area: Chandler. He just owned the paint during the 4th quarter of most games. (Hinrich being a very, very close second.</div>
    You got to rememebr however, in the first couple months of the season when the Bulls started to do well Chandler was not getting consistant minutes off the bench either. Also he was a avliable player, but in my opinion not the most valuable, because though Curry was not in during some key stretches down the fourth quarter he set the tone for the fourth quarter with his play in the first three.

    Could Chandler and Gordon be our fourth quarter mvp's yes, but during the whole game they did not set as big a tone as Curry. He also allowed a lot of players to do what they did such as Hinrich getting some open perimeter shots, and Gordon getting the ball closer to the basket due to the defense falling in to try and stop Curry.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">You got to rememebr however, in the first couple months of the season when the Bulls started to do well Chandler was not getting consistant minutes off the bench either. Also he was a avliable player, but in my opinion not the most valuable, because though Curry was not in during some key stretches down the fourth quarter he set the tone for the fourth quarter with his play in the first three.

    Could Chandler and Gordon be our fourth quarter mvp's yes, but during the whole game they did not set as big a tone as Curry. He also allowed a lot of players to do what they did such as Hinrich getting some open perimeter shots, and Gordon getting the ball closer to the basket due to the defense falling in to try and stop Curry.</div>

    All valid points, especially the part about Curry drawing attention away from other players, but i still think the MVP should go to someone who had a bigger impact on the defensive end. If not Chandler, then Hinrich.
     
  7. Moo2K4

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    I have to go with Gordon. While Chandler and Curry were definitely integral parts of our winning this year, we couldn't have pulled out some of those close games without Gordon. It's too hard to go against him in my opinion. He hit two game winners this year against the Knicks, dropped 22 in the 4th against Cleveland to lead us to a W, and had about 17 or 18 other clutch 4th quarter performances that helped us win. If it wasn't for him, I don't see how we could have won some of those close games we did.
     
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    Though I agree with you Ben Gordon was an integrate part of our teams success he was not on the floor for key stretches of the game. When Curry and the rest of our team was trying to keep the score close. So it would be easier for him with his incredible talent on the offensive end to come on the floor in the fourth quarter and do what he did due to how fresh he was. I can not take anything away from him though I think because of all these reasons why Gordon or Candler or Curry should have been MVP is why they just said oh the hell with it and gave it to everyone. In the big scheme of things you could easily make a case and an argument for why each player did/ did not deserve MVP. A player I am surprised did not get any nominations from someone was Deng though he was injured the later stages of the season when the team first began its turn around his scoring was a crucial part of the turn around.
     
  9. Mr.Wade

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    Why is Kirk Hinrich being overlooked? He switched positions for the better of the team, yet still averaged more assists than his rookie season at PG... he is also a good perimeter defender, especially since he has to guard opposing 2 guards rather than 1s.

    He is the one who runs the offense, everything runs through him... Hinrich in my books is the face of the Bulls.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is Kirk Hinrich being overlooked? He switched positions for the better of the team, yet still averaged more assists than his rookie season at PG... </div>
    If you look at the stats Hinrich?s assist average went down compared to his rookie season not by much, but went down none the less from 6.8 to 6.4. I think what hinders Hinrich?s case for MVP of the team if the fact that his game really did not change much from last season like Chandlers and Curry's, and last season with Hinrich on the team playing this exact same game we did not win. So not a lot of people view him as the main component of the winning season this year. I mean look at his stats outside of the PPG area improving from 12 to 15 and his stats are virtually identical to last seasons. Still shot under 40 % from the field, still averaged over two turnovers a game, and still averaged three rebounds a game. It may have changed by a point percentage here and there, but nothing major changed. Which makes people question was he the real integrate piece of the puzzle this season.
     
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    I would say Gordon because as he had sucess, the entire team was having sucess. Example at the start of the season Gordon was not having sucess and was struggling big time; thus the Bulls went off to an 0-9 start. When Gordon finally got into his groove the team started to get into their groove and eventually broke .500 in January then made their playoff push. Hinrich and Curry are close seconds as they both had break out years.
     
  12. Mr. J

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    It has to be Ben Gordon as many people pointed out. The amount of times he?s come in and stepped up in the clutch is one of the main reasons and perhaps the biggest reason why the Bulls made it to the playoffs this year. Although a bit one-dimensional, Gordon?s scoring off the bench makes the Bulls a threat for a full 48 minutes and those 15 points off the bench is almost half of the total Bulls points off the bench. He?s also added excitement to the crowd and gives Bulls fans hope for the future. He is the true MVP and hopefully next season, he can have an increased role.
     
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    Kirk Hinrich for sure. They didnt have Curry in the Washington series and still went to 7 games against a pretty good team. without Hinrichs scoring that series would have been over sooner
     

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