guys... lets just see what happens in preseason, and during the summer what moves we are willing to make, lets just see nothing else all we know is that we have luther head in our team and i think we should be able to have confidence that he will do his best and make our team a contender for the playoffs. we stil have alot of time before the season starts and dawson has already went around seeing whos availible and making some calls so lets let dawson do his thing and lets welcome luther head.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey, the Rockets definitely knew what to do when they chose Head. Weren't you the sole critic of Charlie Ward and how the Rockets need an upgrade at speed and on defense at the point guard position? Luther Head solves the problem, but you're still not happy? We are definitely not undersized in the frontcourt. We have 7-6 and 7-2 centers's, 6-9 power forwards, at least whoever's in the rotation. What's to say that Weatherspoon would back up Yao? Weatherspoon won't even likely be part of the team next year. Yao will be backed up by most likely Mutombo again, or a young center who we sign like Dan Gadzuric or Joel Przybilla. There will most definitely be someone who is brought in to the four, either to start over or to split minutes with Juwan Howard. The power forward spot in October will definitely not be weaker than it is now. Next season is looking bright, I don't get your negativity.</div> Not negativity, just common sense. Yes we do have Mutumbo, but he's a free agent and he's only goin to play a year or two. We have Howard and Yao but there is no guranteed back up right now for either. And even if we resign Mutumbo, we still have NO mobile bigmen that can run the court (How can you run a fast break if you're center can't get up and down the floor). We had a choice at 24 to draft a athletic 7footer, but we took a Point guard. All I'm saying is finding a back up for Yao should easily have been the first choice, now we find ourselves crossing our fingers hoping we sign a F/A. From what I hear now, we've settled for a 3pt shooting PF in Antwoine Walker. Luther Head might be good, but he won't get any mins for awhile. You have Sura and James clogging up minutes at Pg, while Yao and Howard are playing TOO many minutes because we don't have any back ups. I hope we balance it out before the season starts, we have about 5 pg's and barely any bigmen
Common sense would be that you don't judge what's good or bad until the book closes. It hasn't yet. We still have about three months until training camp and that is more than ample time for us to find a free agent. Houston is not like Atlanta or Toronto where no free agent will want to come. Everyone we've contacted have expressed interest and will be considering our offers. We're also not just settling on Walker. I'm not a fan of him either, but word is that we've also looked at Donyell Marshall, Stromile Swift whom you're so high on, and at least a few other power forwards. What are the odds of us not landing anyone? If you've also watched every Rockets game, you'd see that the team isn't a predominantly fast break team like the Suns. If this were the Van Gundy system, then I could see the reason for more need of speed in the frontcourt, as everyone needs to be on the run all the time. The fact though is that we're a halfcourt team. Look at the Lakers of a few years ago, or the Spurs of now. Nazr Mohammed and Tim Duncan definitely don't run the floor as well as Stoudemire and Marion, but San Antonio is the same team that nearly swept the Suns and went on to win the NBA championship. How could you pick on this type of system?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Common sense would be that you don't judge what's good or bad until the book closes. It hasn't yet. We still have about three months until training camp and that is more than ample time for us to find a free agent. Houston is not like Atlanta or Toronto where no free agent will want to come. Everyone we've contacted have expressed interest and will be considering our offers. We're also not just settling on Walker. I'm not a fan of him either, but word is that we've also looked at Donyell Marshall, Stromile Swift whom you're so high on, and at least a few other power forwards. What are the odds of us not landing anyone? If you've also watched every Rockets game, you'd see that the team isn't a predominantly fast break team like the Suns. If this were the Van Gundy system, then I could see the reason for more need of speed in the frontcourt, as everyone needs to be on the run all the time. The fact though is that we're a halfcourt team. Look at the Lakers of a few years ago, or the Spurs of now. Nazr Mohammed and Tim Duncan definitely don't run the floor as well as Stoudemire and Marion, but San Antonio is the same team that nearly swept the Suns and went on to win the NBA championship. How could you pick on this type of system?</div> I'm not picking on the system. But there is a difference between running occaisonally, and NEVER running at all. The Spurs, for example, play half court offense but when it comes down to running they do a decent job. But we almost NEVER run. It's a shame because with Tmac, we should be atleast getting some fast break points. If I'm not mistaken, we were dead last in fast break pts last year. So my point is if Yao is playing year round basketball, we need somebody that can come in and give him a good rest. Somebody that can rebound and block, and make hustle plays. I'm not saying the season is doomed, but instead of rebuilding the easy way, we are going the hard route. Hopefully we can snatch up a back up center, because that's the most important position.
i'm not sure, but i think both your backcourt guys are over 30. this was a solid pick. luther is gonna be good, and will be in the prime of his career long after bob sura and david wesley are gone.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not picking on the system. But there is a difference between running occaisonally, and NEVER running at all. The Spurs, for example, play half court offense but when it comes down to running they do a decent job. But we almost NEVER run. It's a shame because with Tmac, we should be atleast getting some fast break points. If I'm not mistaken, we were dead last in fast break pts last year. So my point is if Yao is playing year round basketball, we need somebody that can come in and give him a good rest. Somebody that can rebound and block, and make hustle plays. I'm not saying the season is doomed, but instead of rebuilding the easy way, we are going the hard route. Hopefully we can snatch up a back up center, because that's the most important position.</div>I couldn't find any link to prove this, but I'm pretty sure that the Rockets weren't last in fast break points. It might have looked like that earlier on but as the season progressed we were getting out on the break very often. Yao is playing year-round basketball, yes, and he only played 30mpg last season due to foul trouble and lack of stamina, but that's why Mutombo logged 15 minutes per game. He rebounds, he blocks, and he hustles. And there's no indication that he won't return. Why are you exaggerating so much? Is the backup center more important or is the starting power forward, because you're being very inconsistent with priorities.
I would agree with rockfan06 on this issue. Like i said, if the concern is backcourt, then why do we have spanoulis. Both guys are doing the EXACT SAME THING. Not only that, the rockets still need a quality starter at the 1, Head cannot do this. Why not have a little bit of insurance for the future and take blatche or a PF? Even if we get a PF in free agency, what if we need to trade a PF to aquire another one, which is likely if they seriously want swift or walker? The only guy we have that someone wants is howard, our starter. And what about injuries, do you really want to have a scrub like baker or weatherspoon playing? Trip, a PG isnt an instant need, while a big man can be seen contributing right away.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">I couldn't find any link to prove this, but I'm pretty sure that the Rockets weren't last in fast break points. It might have looked like that earlier on but as the season progressed we were getting out on the break very often. Yao is playing year-round basketball, yes, and he only played 30mpg last season due to foul trouble and lack of stamina, but that's why Mutombo logged 15 minutes per game. He rebounds, he blocks, and he hustles. And there's no indication that he won't return. Why are you exaggerating so much? Is the backup center more important or is the starting power forward, because you're being very inconsistent with priorities.</div> I'm very consistent with my priorities. We need a BIGMAN. It's not very difficult. If you think I'm exaggerating then you don't watch very much basketball. We already have a consistent PF in Juwan Howard. Yao is solid. Mutumbo is solid. But a another active body was needed, don't believe me, read the draft report. To me, a pg wasn't our biggest weakness. Now we're trapped in a corner having to trade for a bigman or HOPE we land a one in F/A.
I do see us landing one in Free Agency. I believe something may come up that some people won't like with CD'S little "we're gonna sign in FA" someone he believes is better than someone. I'm hoping it's walker or swift. Marshall won't come.
Swift visits today, which is great. Marshall would be great, but who knows. For some reason, the more I think about Walker, the more I'm against him coming. He's 6'9, but he takes too many 3's and doesn't post up. Not to mention his childish attitude. Did anybody see after game 6 of the Boston-Indiana series when Walker said something like,"This is going to be Reggie Miller's last game in his arena" or something stupid like that. Well the next game the Celtics got blown out by like 40 in THEY'RE own arena. I don't know if his ego is going to fit with the Rockets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">I would agree with rockfan06 on this issue. Like i said, if the concern is backcourt, then why do we have spanoulis. Both guys are doing the EXACT SAME THING. Not only that, the rockets still need a quality starter at the 1, Head cannot do this. Why not have a little bit of insurance for the future and take blatche or a PF? Even if we get a PF in free agency, what if we need to trade a PF to aquire another one, which is likely if they seriously want swift or walker? The only guy we have that someone wants is howard, our starter. And what about injuries, do you really want to have a scrub like baker or weatherspoon playing? Trip, a PG isnt an instant need, while a big man can be seen contributing right away.</div>The thing about needs is that we have a hole at both the power forward and the point guard. At 24, I think that Dawson was looking to get the best available at either position. Blatche is good and could be something down the road, but there's a reason he dropped to 49. Head, meanwhile, is definitely more ready to contribute than Blatche. If we really were looking to get instant help, then I doubt that there would be anyone at the one and four who would help more than Head is. Trust me bro, if we were to trade for a power forward, the only power forward currently on the roster who has a remote chance of being traded is Weatherspoon, because of his contract. Howard has a large contract which probably won't be worth it for any team to pick it up. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post"> I'm very consistent with my priorities. We need a BIGMAN. It's not very difficult. If you think I'm exaggerating then you don't watch very much basketball. We already have a consistent PF in Juwan Howard. Yao is solid. Mutumbo is solid. But a another active body was needed, don't believe me, read the draft report. To me, a pg wasn't our biggest weakness. Now we're trapped in a corner having to trade for a bigman or HOPE we land a one in F/A.</div>Read what draft report? The team definitely needs another big man, but if you look at the free agent market, you see that there are more fours available than point guards. With the MLE, we could maybe land an Antonio Daniels or Earl Watson. But would you think that such career backups would be worth the MLE? Neither have experience as full-time starters and have never put up MLE worthy stats. Meanwhile, with a MLE, you could maybe land someone like Donyell Marshall, Abdur-Rahim, Chris Andersen, or hell, Stromile Swift. Definitely, you're better off spending your cash on a proven and experienced power forward like the aforementioned four players. Don't worry bro, the team definitely won't be "hoping" for a free agent. I've said it somewhere before that the city of Houston is a free agent hot spot. All the players we have contacted have expressed mutual interest. I have 100% confidence in that the team would sign a free agent, and an 80% confidence that the signing would be a PF. The other 20% is reserved in case the team decides to sign a Bobby Simmons or another swingman.
^ My point is that Head is useless. It leaves us with two young point gaurds looking for the exact same thing. I am also against trading howard, and thats the point. Who is going to really like weatherspoon? Unless they need the cap space, which they could do at the deadline.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">^ My point is that Head is useless. It leaves us with two young point gaurds looking for the exact same thing. I am also against trading howard, and thats the point. Who is going to really like weatherspoon? Unless they need the cap space, which they could do at the deadline.</div> I agree that it was kinda pointless drafting a pg when we have a guy oversease that's talented. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">I would agree with rockfan06 on this issue. Like i said, if the concern is backcourt, then why do we have spanoulis. Both guys are doing the EXACT SAME THING. Not only that, the rockets still need a quality starter at the 1, Head cannot do this. Why not have a little bit of insurance for the future and take blatche or a PF? Even if we get a PF in free agency, what if we need to trade a PF to aquire another one, which is likely if they seriously want swift or walker? The only guy we have that someone wants is howard, our starter. And what about injuries, do you really want to have a scrub like baker or weatherspoon playing? Trip, a PG isnt an instant need, while a big man can be seen contributing right away.</div> I'm glad you see the importance of that extra bigman. Now we're under pressure to make a trade when we could of picked up a bigman in the draft. If we get one in F/A then cool, but drafting a point guard was pointless when we have that kid in europe. I think people underestimate the importance of having fresh bodies to come and rebound, block shots and run the court. Yao doesn't run the court very well, niether does Mutumbo. I was hoping we get kid like Blatche to come in and do the dirty work, but we went small. <font color="red">Please use the 'edit feature in the future instead of double-posting. Thanks. ~Trip</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">I would agree with rockfan06 on this issue. Like i said, if the concern is backcourt, then why do we have spanoulis. Both guys are doing the EXACT SAME THING. Not only that, the rockets still need a quality starter at the 1, Head cannot do this. Why not have a little bit of insurance for the future and take blatche or a PF? Even if we get a PF in free agency, what if we need to trade a PF to aquire another one, which is likely if they seriously want swift or walker? The only guy we have that someone wants is howard, our starter. And what about injuries, do you really want to have a scrub like baker or weatherspoon playing? Trip, a PG isnt an instant need, while a big man can be seen contributing right away.</div> I'm glad you see the importance of that extra bigman. Now we're under pressure to make a trade when we could of picked up a bigman in the draft. If we get one in F/A then cool, but drafting a point guard was pointless when we have that kid in europe. I think people underestimate the importance of having fresh bodies to come and rebound, block shots and run the court. Yao doesn't run the court very well, niether does Mutumbo. I was hoping we get kid like Blatche to come in and do the dirty work, but we went small.
