I know it's really early, but let's try... Charlie Villanueva 9 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.2 bpg, 28mpg Joey Graham 8ppg, 6rpg, 1apg, 1.5spg, 0.7bpg, 23 mpg Roko Ukic 8ppg, 3rpg, 5apg, 1spg, 0.2bpg, 25mpg
Charlie Villanueva 11 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, 26 mpg Joey Graham 15 ppg, 6 rpg, 2 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.8 bpg, 23 mpg Roko Ukic 8 ppg, 4 rpg, 5 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, 18 mpg
<font color="Navy">Charlie Villanueva</font> - 8 PPG | 5.2 RPG | 0.8 APG | 1.2 BPG | 21 MPG <font color="Navy">Joey Graham</font> - 10 PPG | 4.6 RPG | 2 APG | 0.5 SPG | 0.5 BPG | 26 MPG <font color="Navy">Roko Leni Ukic</font> - 6 PPG | 1.5 RPG | 3 APG | 0.6 SPG | 16 MPG I was really hard pressed in approx. the minutes. Their's 3936 Minutes per position per year. PG - Assuming Rafer plays about 32 MPG and 82 games, that's 2624 minutes gone there, which leaves 1312 minutes for the backups at PG. We have Ukic and Alvin backing up at PG, I'll say Ukic plays 61 games on 16 MPG, so that's 976 minutes, leaving 336 minutes at PG. Alvin plays 37 games, and an average of 9.1 MPG at PG. SG/SF - Assuming Jalen plays about 33 MPG and 82 games, and MoPete 24 MPG in 82 games also, that's 4674 minutes. Which leaves 3198 minutes at the swing spots for Graham, A.Williams [at SG], E.Williams, and possibly Lammond. Graham is the only likely 82 game guy there, so 26 MPG for 82 games takes out 2132 minutes, leaving 1066 minutes at the swingspots for 3 guys. Alvin plays 37 games, and let's say 5 MPG at SG, so he takes out 185 minutes, leaving 881 minutes. Eric Williams plays 70 games and about 10.5 MPG, which is 735 minutes, leaving 146 minutes. Lammond plays 20 games at 7.3 MPG, and is waived half way through the season. PF - Bosh will get about 38 MPG and we'll give him 81 games, which takes away 3078 minutes, leaving 858 minutes. Bonner plays 82 games, and get's 6 MPG at PF which takes 492 minutes, leaving 366. CV plays 82 games, and 4.5 MPG at PF C - Araujo get's 15 MPG and plays 65 games, that's 975 minutes, leaving 2961 minutes. Pape Sow plays 51 games at 12 MPG which is 612 minutes, leaving 2349 minutes. CV plays 16.5 MPG for 82 games, which is 1353 minutes, and leaves 996 minutes. Bonner plays 10 MPG for 82 games, which is 820 minutes, and leaves 176 minutes for Aaron Williams who plays 29 games at 6.1 MPG. This is if our roster stays the same, and Loren Woods get's waived...
While I respect the optimism, I must say, I think some of you guys are mistkane to expect stats like those. 5 assists in only 18 minutes? That's pushing it a bit. That assist per 48 minutes is bigger than Jason Kidd's! Surely Ukic as a rookie isn't a better passer at that stage. Charlie Villanueva getting 8 boards in less than 30 minutes would give him a better rebounding rate than Elton Brand! I also think the blocks per game is a little off to for Villanueva I could be wrong, but I just can't see it. My stats: CV3: 24mpg l 8.7ppg l 5.0rpg l 2.0 apg Graham: 25mpg l
While I respect the optimism, I must say, I think some of you guys are mistkane to expect stats like those. 5 assists in only 18 minutes? That's pushing it a bit. That assist per 48 minutes is bigger than Jason Kidd's! Surely Ukic as a rookie isn't a better passer at that stage. Charlie Villanueva getting 8 boards in less than 30 minutes would give him a better rebounding rate than Elton Brand! I also think the blocks per game is a little off to for Villanueva I could be wrong, but I just can't see it. My stats: CV3: 24mpg l 8.7ppg l 5.0rpg l 2.0 apg Graham: 25mpg l 3.2rpg l 1.0apg Ukic: 15mpg l 1.0rpg l 2.3
I can say that Joey Graham is gonna start and hes gonna have a very strong impact instantly. 14 ppg, 4.5rpg, 1.5apg, 1.5spg, .7bpg. I also think Ukic will have a decent role off the bench maybe about 4ppg, 1.5 apg. But even though Alvin has had all those surgeries and has been out of action for over a season I think he will be the primary backup PG and play a little SG. I think he will do well also because hes been playing injured all his career and it wont be much different for him, he might even be better if the surgeries have done their job.
I'm not gonna get all exact right now (12.3, 4.7 etc) so I'll just round them off. CV3: 10, 7, 2 Hulk: 11, 6, 1 Ukic: 5, 3, 3 I don't see Ukic playing that much next year. I think Mitchell will bring him along slowly.
Now that i look back i think i pushed the stats way too much, to be more realistic, CV: 10ppg, 6rpg, 1apg JG: 12ppg, 5rpg, 2apg. Ukic: 5ppg, 3apg, 1rpg.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rim-Rocca:</div><div class="quote_post">Now that i look back i think i pushed the stats way too much, to be more realistic, CV: 10ppg, 6rpg, 1apg JG: 12ppg, 5rpg, 2apg. Ukic: 5ppg, 3apg, 1rpg.</div> Bosh only had 11.5 ppg in his rookie year, and he played 33.5 mpg. I think that its somewhat unrealistic to expect a 16th pick to get 12ppg with limited minutes. CV 8ppg 5 rpg 1apg .8bpg JG 8ppg 4 rpg 2 apg .8spg Ukic 5ppg 1 rpg 3 apg .5spg I think because Raptors might have a 10-11 man rotation that the minutes will get spread and scoring will get spread as well. Alston/Ukic Mo Pete/Alvin Jalen/Graham Bosh/Villeneuva Pape/Hoffa/Bonner
Charlie Villanueva: 11 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 apg, 0.8 bpg. Joey Graham: 8 ppg, 6 rpg, 1 apg, 0.7 bpg. Ukic is not so good, maybe 5 ppg...
I think Joey's the only one with a chance to avg double digits, but I still doubt it: CV3 is playing at crowded forward spot, so: 7 ppg / 5rpg / 1 bpg The Hulk won't start but will get his minutes. It just remains to be seen if he can translate his college success to an NBA level : 9 ppg / 4 rpg / 2 apg Roko's going to come along slow, as he's a potential player: 5 ppg / 3 apg / 1 rpg
you guys are expecting too much out of Villy. i like the numbers chutney gave him. as for joey, he'll start for you guys, and be a beast, around 11PPG 7RPG 1BPG and roko is more ready than people think 7PPG 4APG 2RPG
superneuva / like 78 games 11/7/1 The Aviator / like 82 games 13/4/2 Croatian Sensation pt.2 / like 70 games 4/2/3 Pts/Rbnds/Asts
charlie V: 9ppg, 5.5rpg, 29mpg joey g: 7ppg, 3.5rpg, 18mpg ukic:1.2ppg, 0.5apg, 8mpg i think my numbers are inflated from their actual impact because they will get a lot of p/t on another below .500 raptor club.
