Sonics set a deadline, Nate signs with Portland

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  1. Roland Hood

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    Oh yeah one other thing: thanks for mucking up our draft Nate [​IMG]
     
  2. Oneinpower

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    I don't want to offend any Seattle fans but I Know I will.

    First of all didn't Nate almost get fired a couple seasons ago.
    The Sonics didn't want to give him a contract extension and I think he was little upset about that.

    You have guys like Ray and J James that seem like they have a poor attitude.

    Ray is alway crying about something (Kobe,Bruce Bowen, Refs).
    James act like no one can tell him anything.
    I wouldn't want to coach these guys and then to have the organization not to give him a contact. I see how he felt.
     
  3. Iron Shiek

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    Nate to Portland

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Blazers late Wednesday night hired McMillan, who led the SuperSonics to the Northwest Division title this past season. He will be introduced Thursday at a news conference, the Blazers said in a statement.

    McMillan's contract with the Sonics expired July 1 and the Blazers aggressively pursued him. The terms of his contract were not immediately available.

    McMillan's departure comes a day after Seattle signed All-Star free agent Ray Allen to a five-year, $85 million contract extension.

    "Our last compensation discussion detailed a proposal that on average would have made Nate one of the five highest paid active NBA coaches," Sonics president Wally Walker said in a statement. "While we made him a fair offer, we in no way begrudge Nate's ability to earn more than we could offer.

    "Our respect and affection for Nate will not waver, no matter how paradoxical that he is moving to our Northwest rival."

    McMillan replaces interim coach Kevin Pritchard, who took over for the fired Maurice Cheeks when the Blazers embarked on a youth movement in midseason. Cheeks was 162-139 in three-plus seasons with Portland.

    McMillan had coached the Sonics since Nov. 27, 2000, and compiled a 212-183 record. He spent his entire 12-year playing career with the Sonics.</div>

    Link

    Possibly the biggest domino fell today.

    I'm not upset at all that he chose to go where the money is, I'm just interested in seeing who we are going to bring in to replace Nate.

    Nate had an up and down ride with the Supes and it seems as though we all have short memories and only remember the ups on the ride. I've said all along that Nate did a phenominal job this season, but I'm not ready to put him amongst the upper echelon of coaches. Portland obviously feels as if he is, and if he is willing to leave Seattle to take on that combustable roster then he made his own bed.

    I know a lot of people are going to be upset with this move but the reality is that we all knew that there was going to be a lot of turnover from last years team. In my opinion the most important piece to the puzzle was signed three weeks ago with Rick Sund.

    We got Ray to come back and I'm optimistic that we will get some other free agents to come back as well. I hope that we don't bring Doug Collins in to coach us, but I don't think that Nate leaving is as big a setback as the masses will tend to believe.

    It takes more than one season to make a Hall of Fame Coach. Nate is going to have to earn his stripes in Rip City.
     
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    I don't think you guys have to worry, as long as you resign your key FAs. you already signed Ray Allen, now if you can get Daniels and Radmadovic, you'll be good to go [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Da_Future_2k5:</div><div class="quote_post">oh please you do not know what you are talking about [​IMG]

    darius miles never slapped anyone, maurice cheeks was a lame duck coach and a bad one on top of that.. to compare him to Nate who will be makin 6 mil a year is ridiculous. just stop talking.</div>



    For starters I said im going to LAUGH when darius miles does...I didnt see he did slap Miles..although I wouldnt have put it past him. What does being a good coach or being a bad coach have to do with players screaming at you and your ownership not backing you up....how can you be a good coach if that is allowed? Secondly while you tell me to stop talking you are the one that is making ignorant statements...when did I compare Nate Mcmillian to Mo Cheeks? i never mentioned one way or the other who had the most coaching abilities. You just kinda threw that in there.

    Btw...feel free to talk because I will continue to do the same.
     
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    Nice to see that we are amending thread titles to make validate our predictions.
     
  7. Roland Hood

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    Kind of bothered by it last night, woke up this morning, read the Times and PI ; Nate's been bitter for the past year, coaching angry and there was little to no chance he was coming back.

    Basically he didn't want to be here - it's not like it was an agonizing decision (it sounds like from the articles).

    I just hate to see yet another Seattle sports icon leave, especially for the Blazers. For me it's like Edgar signing with the Yankees or something. So it's more from the personal standpoint that it's bothersome.

    I keep hearing Iavoroni's name, and that he's a FOW (Friend of Wally). I dunno I used to hate him as a player but supposedly he's primed and ready. And I read something funny today, that we could get Casey back if we gave Minny some compensation. Flip will be too pricey, he'll ask at least as much as Nate got from Microsoft. So maybe Terry Porter is left as a viable candidate.
     
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    Ray having a bad attitude? Uhm... Somebody on this forum really needs to get their priorities straighten out reeeal fast.

    Ray Allen a bad attitude, now that is a funny thing really it is. Joke of the year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">Link

    Possibly the biggest domino fell today.

    I'm not upset at all that he chose to go where the money is, I'm just interested in seeing who we are going to bring in to replace Nate.

    Nate had an up and down ride with the Supes and it seems as though we all have short memories and only remember the ups on the ride. I've said all along that Nate did a phenominal job this season, but I'm not ready to put him amongst the upper echelon of coaches. Portland obviously feels as if he is, and if he is willing to leave Seattle to take on that combustable roster then he made his own bed.

    I know a lot of people are going to be upset with this move but the reality is that we all knew that there was going to be a lot of turnover from last years team. In my opinion the most important piece to the puzzle was signed three weeks ago with Rick Sund.

    We got Ray to come back and I'm optimistic that we will get some other free agents to come back as well. I hope that we don't bring Doug Collins in to coach us, but I don't think that Nate leaving is as big a setback as the masses will tend to believe.

    It takes more than one season to make a Hall of Fame Coach. Nate is going to have to earn his stripes in Rip City.</div>

    I don't want Collins either. I don't really care for him as commentator - not that he's not usually right, it's just that his mannerisms kind of irritate me. I imagine it's the same when he's coaching.

    I tell you what would be ironical - if Nate brought Flip down the freeway with him and he blossoms into a 25ppg scorer that terrorizes the Supes for years and years under Nate's new free-wheeling style.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Ray having a bad attitude? Uhm... Somebody on this forum really needs to get their priorities straighten out reeeal fast.

    Ray Allen a bad attitude, now that is a funny thing really it is. Joke of the year.</div>

    Tell that to KOBE , BRUCE BOWEN ,COACH KARL, GLEN ROBINSON OR THE NBA REFS.

    Ray Allen not only has a bad attitude with all these player but he is a crybaby.

    When you talk Sh!t about your own teammates and other players in the NBA players then you have a goooood attitude?

    Sure man!

    When your own coach doesn't even back the thing you say and your own teammates don't either.

    That tell you something.

    It is unclear whether your own teammate want to hang out with you for blasting out your own coach "Karl" and other NBA players.

    So if you think that is funny.

    Well maybe you should ask that to KOBE , BRUCE BOWEN ,COACH KARL, GLEN ROBINSON OR THE NBA REFS if that is funny.

    I know that they are not laughing.

    Just look at the facts so you won't find it as a joke.
     
  11. BookerT

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    you forgot to add that hes a bad actor
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BookerT:</div><div class="quote_post">you forgot to add that hes a bad actor</div>


    Now that is funny [​IMG]
     
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    Damn, Oneinpower, you definetely have watched too much Ginobili this year.....Allen is a star player and sometimes things may get dirty between players and between players and coaches...but the fact that Allen resigned shows that there isn't any big feud. Also show me a player who don't make faces or say something to the referee when they are called with a questionable foul or something.....and this thing between Kobe & Allen that was just as much Kobes fault that it was Allen's fault......only thing that I also didn't like was that whining about Bowen's dirty defense.....yes Bowen plays a little dirty sometimes but going to the media and whining about it gives him (Bowen) a mental edge over you....this last thing aside you are just trying to start an argument.....I know off-season is quite boring....
     
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    You guys are far from correct. I mean sure, Ray Allen has his moments where he`s a crybaby, so to speak...but he definetely isn`t one to have a serious problem with "bad attitudes" like you guys put it. Get the facts straight.
     
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    Caught the tail end of the press conference while I was stuck in rush hour traffic (maybe Nate was sick of the 405?).

    Uhm...man did he ever want out of Seattle. He made it pretty clear. Sounded bitter and angry, not a side of Nate I've seen before.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting anadagirlballer4strt:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys are far from correct. I mean sure, Ray Allen has his moments where he`s a crybaby, so to speak...but he definetely isn`t one to have a serious problem with "bad attitudes" like you guys put it. Get the facts straight.</div>


    Ok maybe not a bad attitude but a poor attitudes. [​IMG]

    When it comes to his ex-teammate like Glen Robinson or his ex-Coach Karl.
    You don't talk crap about your own(teammate and Staff)
    NO one is saying that Ray can't play because he can.
    but his attitude about no one can tell him anything suxs.
    Thats a fact! or straight fact. [​IMG]

    I think that is one reason why his coach(Nate) left.
    Not only that, but it got him traded too.
    You don't trade a superstar unless he has some kind of bad or poor attitude. [​IMG]

    This thread is about why Nate left to Portland.
    And I think Ray and some of his teammates had a little to do with it.
    by that just my opinion. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Oneinpower:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok maybe not a bad attitude but a poor attitudes. [​IMG]

    When it comes to his ex-teammate like Glen Robinson or his ex-Coach Karl.
    You don't talk crap about your own(teammate and Staff)
    NO one is saying that Ray can't play because he can.
    but his attitude about no one can tell him anything suxs.
    Thats a fact! or straight fact. [​IMG] </div>
    No one gets along with all of their colleagues. To judge Ray Allen as a a player with a poor attitude because if these claims is proposterous.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I think that is one reason why his coach(Nate) left.
    Not only that, but it got him traded too.
    You don't trade a superstar unless he has some kind of bad or poor attitude. [​IMG]
    </div>
    Incorrect. The Bucks were obviously not going too deep in the playoffs with Allen so there of course is a reasonable cause for trading him in hopes of revamping their team for future success. It's the same reason Paul Pierce was talked about being traded...they weren't winning enough with him. Ray Allen's attitude is nowhere near the type of negative influence that would force a team owner to trade a player of his caliber.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread is about why Nate left to Portland.
    And I think Ray and some of his teammates had a little to do with it.
    by that just my opinion. [​IMG]</div>
    That is what this thread is about and i'm sure Nate addressed why he left in his press conference (which I sadly missed).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shard:</div><div class="quote_post">No one gets along with all of their colleagues. To judge Ray Allen as a a player with a poor attitude because if these claims is proposterous.


    Incorrect. The Bucks were obviously not going too deep in the playoffs with Allen so there of course is a reasonable cause for trading him in hopes of revamping their team for future success. It's the same reason Paul Pierce was talked about being traded...they weren't winning enough with him. Ray Allen's attitude is nowhere near the type of negative influence that would force a team owner to trade a player of his caliber.


    That is what this thread is about and i'm sure Nate addressed why he left in his press conference (which I sadly missed).</div>


    Oh I forgot that you don't have a team like we have here in San Antonio.
    That's not the way we(Spurs) are. They don't back stab there own players like Ray Alien does/did and yes I did say Alien.

    I'm not judging Ray with just his own colleagues but the whole NBA organization that includes Coaches, Ref, owners and other NBA Stars.
    That does show a poor attitude.

    Ray also went to the owner of the buck and asked to be traded because he weren't on the same page, and he wasn't happy and that is a quote from Allen himself. He ask to be traded.
    Your Idea that the Buck hopes of revamping their team for future success.
    Is wrong. Do you see a pattern.
    I do, that's a POOR ATTITUDE to me and others.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Roland Hood:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh yeah one other thing: thanks for mucking up our draft Nate [​IMG]</div>

    True [​IMG]
    but .. the draf was ok it could have been better
     
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    Does anyone have the press conference on the internet yet?
     

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