if charlie V. establishes that he's a competent player, would u consider trading bosh for a centre and backcourt help. maybe the magloire deal with jr. smith thrown in plus the necessary salary cap fillers (eric williams, lammond murray) to complete the trade?
nope i wont trade Bosh. He is the future for the Raptors no matter how charlie v plays and the raptors fell Bosh as their franshise player so he isnt goin anywhere
Are you saying if Charlie V proves to be better than Bosh, or just competent? I wouldn't trade Bosh for just competence, but if Charlie V later proves to be a better player, then it obviously becomes a possiblity because neither is really a center, and it wouldn't really work too well unless one moved to SF which brings some other problems. Right now, no, definately wouldn't trade Bosh for just competence....
The question is...... how good is competent? Good enough to lead the team? Because trading for a player like Magloire, who cannot take charge of a team, we'll be left without a leader, a person to be the go-to-man. It all depends if CV3 can be AT LEAST the same level that Bosh is right now.
competent=gives u the stability of a kurt thomas or a billups, meaning his position won't be a concern. we have duplication on the team and trading bosh might be an option that i would explore. i don't think the magloire, j.r smith for bosh trade is that bad of an idea. magloire is a proven all star and i think jr smith has the potential to be an all star.
^ Would New Orleans do that trade? They're pretty high on JR Smith, I don't see them trading Magloire and JR Smith for Bosh at this point, though it's a possiblity. I don't think either side would be willing to do the trade.
But Bosh for Magloire? I realize that J.R. Smith is in the mix but still, you have to consider Magloire's age here. Bosh is only 21 and Magloire is 27, turning 28. We'll get an opportunity to sign him in 2 years anyway so why trade for him?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">competent=gives u the stability of a kurt thomas or a billups, meaning his position won't be a concern. we have duplication on the team and trading bosh might be an option that i would explore. i don't think the magloire, j.r smith for bosh trade is that bad of an idea. magloire is a proven all star and i think jr smith has the potential to be an all star.</div> bosh is a future top 5 player in this league. Dont care if we have 10 PF's that are confident we shouldnt get rid of Bosh IMO. The kid is so young and yet its not unrealistic to think he could put up 20-10 numbers next year. And as said by someone else the only players to do that last year were Shaq Duncan and KG. thats some pretty good company he'd have there. Bosh is in my opinion the future perenial allstar powerforward. Okafor, Howard...pfft....Bosh is better now and will continue that. I predict big big things for this kid. He'll be one of the faces of the nba for years to come.
I think that if Villaneuva could put up better stats next season than Bosh did in his rookie year and show signs of future greatness, then I guess it could be worth the risk. Both players share the same position and if Villaneuva has to play behind Bosh, then I guess one of them will have to go either way. These two guys will not be in Houston for the rest of their careers, and it's even more likely for Villaneuva if he proves to be a future star and gets frustrated behind Bosh. It'll be a matter of either trading him before his contract runs out or letting him go in free agency.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">But Bosh for Magloire? I realize that J.R. Smith is in the mix but still, you have to consider Magloire's age here. Bosh is only 21 and Magloire is 27, turning 28. We'll get an opportunity to sign him in 2 years anyway so why trade for him?</div> ^^^i totally agree, he is getting old, but in 2 years he is a free agent and WANTS to play for Toronto, at time he has even said when he has to go to New Orleans for the new season he doesnt like it, and he already said that there is going to be a time where he gets to choose where he wants to play and i believe its as a Toronto Raptor, unless some team offers him a better contract then we can =/
Chris Bosh wont be traded from the Raptors. All the Raptors need is a PG, who knows what they will do with Jalen Rose but if i was them ill keep the guy around for leadership. Dont ya remember Tim Duncan and David Robinson playing together in San Antonio and how they lead the Spurs to a ring in 2003? Omar Cook was killin it towards the end of the season, maybe he can prove to be a starting PG. Damn the Raptors got Matt Bonner too, they got a good core of young players.
chris bosh can't be traded for those two until charlie v proves that he can handle his own in the league
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dont ya remember Tim Duncan and David Robinson playing together in San Antonio and how they lead the Spurs to a ring in 2003?</div> What does this have to do with Duncan and Robinson?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">What does this have to do with Duncan and Robinson?</div> and duncan and robinson had the capability to play the five or the four at an elite level. neither bosh nor charlie V can play the five, in fact there are questions about whether they have the strength to play the four through a 82 game schedule.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">and duncan and robinson had the capability to play the five or the four at an elite level. neither bosh nor charlie V can play the five, in fact there are questions about whether they have the strength to play the four through a 82 game schedule.</div> I believe Bosh has already proven that he can play through 82 games playing HEAVY minutes. He started 81 games logging 37.2 mpg last season and played 75 in his rookie season logging 33.5 mpg. I have to agree though, that comparison with Robinson / Duncan has nothing to do with Bosh / Villanueva. Robinson and Duncan are both all-star 7-footers who have proven that they can play both the 4 and the 5.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">and duncan and robinson had the capability to play the five or the four at an elite level. neither bosh nor charlie V can play the five, in fact there are questions about whether they have the strength to play the four through a 82 game schedule.</div> The difference is, both of them are centers. Chris Bosh and Charlie V are both 4's.
I can't believe you guys are asking these quetions about our current Franchise player. Bosh had a break out year last year and proved to be our franchise. And all of a sudden we draft a rookie PF and asking these type of questions. I'm not trying to be an idiot or anything but seriously. We have our franchise, and we haven't even seen CV3 play yet. Let's show some loyalty. That's like Houston drafting Luther Head and he does good in summer league, so he will possibly be as good as T-Mac, or COMPETENT, so let's start thinking about trading Tracy McGrady.
SG - Graham SF - Villaneuva PF - Bosh C - Araujo Solid future, if Araujo develops into a solid starter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">I can't believe you guys are asking these quetions about our current Franchise player. Bosh had a break out year last year and proved to be our franchise. And all of a sudden we draft a rookie PF and asking these type of questions. I'm not trying to be an idiot or anything but seriously. We have our franchise, and we haven't even seen CV3 play yet. Let's show some loyalty. That's like Houston drafting Luther Head and he does good in summer league, so he will possibly be as good as T-Mac, or COMPETENT, so let's start thinking about trading Tracy McGrady.</div>No one's saying that. It's what Babcock is doing that is making everyone think like this. By drafting Villaneuva with a lottery pick, it is clear that the Raptors are set up for choosing one of either Villaneuva and Bosh for the long term. Both play the same position, are close in age, and their contracts expire within two years of each other. Obviously, if Villaneuva plays up to the expectations that a player picked this high would carry, Babcock would definitely have to think about picking one of the two for the long term and dealing the other before he walks as a free agent. If Villaneuva doesn't work out, then we should trade him somewhere when he still has some "potential".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">SG - Graham SF - Villaneuva PF - Bosh C - Araujo Solid future, if Araujo develops into a solid starter.</div> Uh...no.
