<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LAS VEGAS - The Celtics' cruise through the Reebok Vegas Summer League hit an iceberg. It wasn't a pretty crash, and Delonte West wasn't shy about sharing that thought with his teammates afterward. In a matchup of undefeated teams yesterday, the Celtics didn't produce the necessary intensity and were handed a 71-65 loss by the Cleveland Cavaliers' entry. As the team rode a freight elevator back down to its dressing room, West had his say. ``How do we come out with all this cool (expletive)?'' West said. ``We ain't done nothing yet. No one here is a pro yet. We're all still trying to make it. Yeah, we came back and did something in the second half, but what the (expletive) are we waiting for? We've got to bring it every day - in the park, in practices, in games . . .''</div> Source
good words from Delonte but if he hates seeing the team lose than hes not gonna have much fun this season if they trade Pierce theyre going to be losing a LOOOOOOOOOOT of games
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">good words from Delonte but if he hates seeing the team lose than hes not gonna have much fun this season if they trade Pierce theyre going to be losing a LOOOOOOOOOOT of games</div> Not true. Replace that man with a two who plays some defense and doesn't turn the ball over so many times. They'll get their points, they always do. They won't be on par with elite teams, and they most certainly won't be able to slow down and play a half court game. But the Nets' reign of the earlier portion of the decade has proven that most teams aren't ready for a running game, and if there's one thing this team can do, it's run.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ignignot:</div><div class="quote_post">Not true. Replace that man with a two who plays some defense and doesn't turn the ball over so many times. They'll get their points, they always do. They won't be on par with elite teams, and they most certainly won't be able to slow down and play a half court game. But the Nets' reign of the earlier portion of the decade has proven that most teams aren't ready for a running game, and if there's one thing this team can do, it's run.</div> Whos going to provide leadership without pierce, a second year player or a rookie or some new guy that doesnt understand the system? That cant be good Walker most likely gone along wit Payton so if they trade Pierce they have no leadership and a bunch of run n gun youngins that make young costly mistakes. Pierce gone is obviously not going to help the c's even RICKY DAVIS admitted it
Yeah, I can't imagine the Celtics being great without Pierce. Besides Davis who would be their go to guy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">Whos going to provide leadership without pierce, a second year player or a rookie or some new guy that doesnt understand the system? That cant be good Walker most likely gone along wit Payton so if they trade Pierce they have no leadership and a bunch of run n gun youngins that make young costly mistakes. Pierce gone is obviously not going to help the c's even RICKY DAVIS admitted it</div> Pierce wasn't that much of a leader in the first place anyway.
But he still provided most of the scoring and hit game winners...soo im juss sayin im not so sure if the celtics can survive without him i mean hes a superstar
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">But he still provided most of the scoring and hit game winners...soo im juss sayin im not so sure if the celtics can survive without him i mean hes a superstar</div>Yeah, Pierce leads in his own way, but we need somebody who is a better leader. It's not like they'll trade him away for an extra headband for Ricky Davis. They will get another talent that may not be as good or popular, but better as a team leader. Also, people need to get it out of their heads that you need a "superstar" to win.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Pierce leads in his own way, but we need somebody who is a better leader. It's not like they'll trade him away for an extra headband for Ricky Davis. They will get another talent that may not be as good or popular, but better as a team leader. Also, people need to get it out of their heads that you need a "superstar" to win.</div> I agree with you, but just in case you think its me that believes you need a superstar thats not me i dont believe in that im just saying it helps
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Pierce leads in his own way, but we need somebody who is a better leader. It's not like they'll trade him away for an extra headband for Ricky Davis. They will get another talent that may not be as good or popular, but better as a team leader. Also, people need to get it out of their heads that you need a "superstar" to win.</div> Of late, the only way he leads is by pouting and making silly mistakes. And the only reason that man makes game winners is because no one gives the ball to anybody else. Pierce misses five game winners for every one he hits. I don't consider that clutch, leadership, or really superstar-like (although I don't debate that point). I've never thought P2 to be all that clutch, and there's little to support otherwise. He sure did go balls to the wall in that fourth quarter against the Nets so many years ago, and we've seen flashes of brilliance since, but nothing that makes you stop, hold your breath, and just say, "who's that Bird guy again?" But like Ricky P said, Larry Bird isn't walking through that door. And yes, Ricky Davis did say he's like to have Paul around to build with, that doesn't mean Ricky is going to give up on this team without him. Nor will anyone else. And so what if there isn't much in the way of veteran leadership, this team has more guys that are willing to go all out for eachother than any other squad in the Eastern Conference at least, and that's saying something. Chemistry isn't just about experience or superstars, it's about a team that sticks together. And nobody does it better than us.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LAS VEGAS - Delonte West has made some nice moves on the floor in the Reebok Vegas Summer League. West's handling of the ball against pressure and his quick hands on defense have helped the Celtics entry compile a 3-1 record. But the move he made off the floor following Tuesday's loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers squad may be more important to the Shamrocks' fortunes in the long run. As noted in yesterday's Herald, West took the team to task for its effort, using strong words and including himself in the brief, pointed and measured rant. He criticized the club for playing as if it had accomplished something, saying it had no room to be playing cool. The Celtics could use an interior defender and some better outside shooting, but leadership may be their biggest weakness. Thus, West's words were welcome. ``Our team does need that,'' director of basketball operations Danny Ainge said yesterday as the Celts practiced. ``Ideally you have 12 players like that, guys who play to win first. There's a lot more to leadership than just saying the right things. Delonte says the right things, but you've got to do the right things, and I think he does a good job of backing it up. But he's still young and he can still do more. He works, but I think he can still take another step. ``Delonte plays hard and he plays to win. He doesn't care about stats. He's one guy who's not trying to look pretty. He's diving on the floor. He's taking charges. He's sharing the ball. He's making big shots. He plays to win, and that's his greatest characteristic.'' </div> Ainge, Celts cool with West's Rants
I think Delonte is proving some stuff. Wild West will be a good NBA starting PG and leader for a few yeasrs to come, Ainge done good pickin this diomond from the rough.
I love to hear things like that from the Celtics. When we drafted West las tyear I thought he was going to be a sleeper because I have seen him play in person several times and I always liked his demeanor on and off the court. You dont have to say things to be a leader on the court. All you have to do is play like a leader and a pro then people will follow by your example. West just proved to me that he is not satisfied with anything. He wants his team to be the best. You have give 100% when wearing that kelly green. Da-n, I wish Pierce could follow that example.
