<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>and you cant forget about brooks, he shut down vick.</div> So Did Urlacher. Difference is Urlacher is pretty much the only star on the Bears D - Brooks has Simeon Rice, and Ronde Barber and just a solid D through and through.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'> But I think that Nate Clements has a chance to be a very special CB in this league - a Deion type - unfortunately it probably won't be in a Bills uniform.</div> In one thread you compare McGahee to OJ and that you see him going for 2,000 yards in another thread you mention Brett Farve and Loseman in the same breath...Saying Clements could be a "Deion Type" ....WOW the bills just have a squad full HOF'ers I guess huh? Do you realize how ridiculous this is? Oh and as for Spikes being hands down the best OLB in the league...ever heard of Keith Bulluck? You could easliy make an argument for him....</div> why do you take everything out of context - I said I could if and when McNally gets our O line into shape so that McGahee will not get hit behind the line of scrimmage as often as he does. BTW, the comparison to OJ was more then Valid given the situations that they've faced on O. Last I checked, Clements does get a decent # of INTs, and he has taken a good # of them to the house (plus he had a TD on a punt return this year too - 3 for his career). Now that he's been to the probowl, look for him to start going every year. I'm not the only one who has mentioned Losman in the same breath as Favre - lots of sportswriters have. And by a packers fans own admission - he said he'd rather have Losman then Rodgers (or whoever they drafted).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>now that the panthers and bucs have recovered from off years i think the saints are gonna struggle a lot in the NFC south. Carnell i think is gonna do huge things. He has proven himself a lot in college.</div> Why are people attacking my credibility with this guy around? He says what basically boils down to the same thing that I said - about a non rookie on my team mind you - about a rookie on his team. "He has proven himself a lot in college" Do I really need to throw the hypocrisy of such a statement in your face? I really didn't have anything against the panthers - I was certainly pulling for them in their superbowl appearance two years ago against the Patriots, but if you're a pretty fair representation of their fans, I'm gonna be inclined to hate them just to spite you.</div> Simple you are biased out of your mine. Clements a Bill is the next Deion McGahee a bill is the next OJ(without the legal problems)JP a Bill is the next Farve in comparisons. There are more teams than the Bills so it's ok to come on the forum and love your team but to bring down teams like the jets and dolphins you better relize that your gonna get some smack talk against you. and mark my words is a term over used in this world.
It would be like me saying and established runner like Dillon could go for 2,000 yards...that is an EXTREME circumstance for a RB and we should probably feel lucky that we got to witness Jamal Lewis do it...but I'm not counting on seeing another back do it anytime soon...and you also compared Mcgahee's size to OJ which is not comparable since all players today are bigger and stronger than players of the past...and until I start watching games and no one will throw to clements side of the field basically negating any chance he has at INT's...like it was for Deion when he played for SF/DAL especially...I wouldn't even begin to mention him in the same sentence....as for the losman thing...I'd take any QB not from the Tedford school at this point because alot of his QB's are failing in a big way...but please....he is no farve..no matter how strong his arm is..he can't be compared to Farve..keep listening to the Media..
comparing QB's to Favre has been very commen has of late. Rex Grossman was compared a little bit. Charlie Fyre and JP Losman. So losman isn't the only QB compared to Favre. A lot of recievers get compared to Randy Moss but that don't mean he is the next Randy Moss. The word comparded is the start of an overhyped player.
Ray Lewis gets compared a lot to like Vilma was suppose to be the next Lewis. No one can compare to his leadership and the fear he puts into players he goes up against
it seems to me that you guys have to resort to smack instead of throwing facts back at me. If it makes you all happy, I'll say it again - yes Losman can very well be a bust, or look like a bust this season, however the amount of dedication he has shown during the offseason in learning our O completely from a textbook perspective coupled with the fact that he does have a strong, accurate arm, and can scramble - I think the chances of him failing have been greatly minimized - add to that the good d, special teams, and running game - again we're putting him in a situation where he shouldn't have to carry this team for us to win - all he has to do is play conservative, and not turn the ball over. If Buffalo was where it was when we traded Bledsoe, I'd be $#!tting bricks nervous, but that's simply not the case.
Boller worked a lot last off season and saw no big improvement. Untill he steps on the field and leads him team to the playoffs he isnt gonna be considered a good QB
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>it seems to me that you guys have to resort to smack instead of throwing facts back at me. If it makes you all happy, I'll say it again - yes Losman can very well be a bust, or look like a bust this season, however the amount of dedication he has shown during the offseason in learning our O completely from a textbook perspective coupled with the fact that he does have a strong, accurate arm, and can scramble - I think the chances of him failing have been greatly minimized - add to that the good d, special teams, and running game - again we're putting him in a situation where he shouldn't have to carry this team for us to win - all he has to do is play conservative, and not turn the ball over. If Buffalo was where it was when we traded Bledsoe, I'd be $#!tting bricks nervous, but that's simply not the case.</div> You don't understand the concept of media. I don't know where you live but I am sure you read that Losman has shown dedication. A lot of players do show dedication. Jamal "too small" Reynolds was dedicated his first 2 seasons in GB and he was some what matured and look what happened to him. He was also a top 10 pick. The QB always usually carries the team to victory in some way or another and if you failed to see that then you have failed to learn football 101 . The FACT is that Losman in not Brett Favre. The FACT is that they aren't the same person. The FACT is that they are completly opposites at this moment in each other careers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'> Why are people attacking my credibility with this guy around? He says what basically boils down to the same thing that I said - about a non rookie on my team mind you - about a rookie on his team. "He has proven himself a lot in college" Do I really need to throw the hypocrisy of such a statement in your face? I really didn't have anything against the panthers - I was certainly pulling for them in their superbowl appearance two years ago against the Patriots, but if you're a pretty fair representation of their fans, I'm gonna be inclined to hate them just to spite you.</div> First off Carnell plays for the Bucs who i hate(so how can they be my team) but i have tremendous respect for Carnell. I hated to see him go to the Bucs. because i know the panthers will have to face him 2 twice a year
Alright - let's leave it at this - JP is a second year player who will be a first year starter at QB. He probably will make a few more mistakes then a more seasoned veteran. I think that he is as ready to assume control of our O NOW as he'll ever be with this team - I see it as a blessing to have new blood at the position when I look at what the alternative was. I, like the rest of the Bills organization really think that Bledsoe has carried us as far as he could last season, and now it's time for that new blood to step up. I also feel that because he's stepping in now instead of last year (at any time) after we went 0-4 (I know he couldn't because he was injured) he's about as prepared to lead this offense as he'll ever be - I think that the Bills are doing what's best for this organization both for this season and future seasons as well at QB. Our line is obviously not the best in the league, but it's definitely not the worst either - I think you guys will see a marked improvement as far as sacks given up by our O line are concerned because Losman has the ability to get out of trouble with his legs. I really want to believe that Losman will find his way to the Probowl (no, I don't think it will happen this year - a lot of guys make it on name alone even when they've had a mediocre year) and I see it as a very real possibility (in the future) given the amount of raw talent that he has. I think that his time with Wyche (without a doubt one of the game's best QB coaches) in the filmroom, on the practice field and during drills WILL YIELD (ABNORMALLY FOR YOU GUYS) EARLY results given his dedication and eagerness to learn the game from one of the best at what he does, that's my opinion. On the same note, I'm equally as sure that he will be shown things from opposing defenses that will make him scratch his head and cause him to make mistakes during the progression of a play or when plays break down. What QB in the league does this not happen to? Probably none. This will probably happen a little more to Losman then it will seasoned veterans, but given his attitude and the good head he's got on his shoulders, I expect him to bounce back, keep his head up and learn what to do and what not to do in these situations. Having faith in your players is part of being a fan and guess what, I'm not ashamed of mine.
he will struggle next season but i think his legs will help him gain a few key 1st downs. If he only has to throw 25 times a game hes gonna do a lot better, and since he has a good defense hes gonna have to learn he doesnt have to force the ball. Do you know what he ran in the 40?
that should be good enough to get him away from DTs and fast enough to where a lot of DEs won't be able to gain any ground on him in a straight line - it may also be enough to do the same against some LBs in the league too (not very many though).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>it seems to me that you guys have to resort to smack instead of throwing facts back at me. If it makes you all happy, I'll say it again - yes Losman can very well be a bust, or look like a bust this season, however the amount of dedication he has shown during the offseason in learning our O completely from a textbook perspective coupled with the fact that he does have a strong, accurate arm, and can scramble - I think the chances of him failing have been greatly minimized - add to that the good d, special teams, and running game - again we're putting him in a situation where he shouldn't have to carry this team for us to win - all he has to do is play conservative, and not turn the ball over. If Buffalo was where it was when we traded Bledsoe, I'd be $#!tting bricks nervous, but that's simply not the case.</div> You don't understand the concept of media. I don't know where you live but I am sure you read that Losman has shown dedication. A lot of players do show dedication. Jamal "too small" Reynolds was dedicated his first 2 seasons in GB and he was some what matured and look what happened to him. He was also a top 10 pick. The QB always usually carries the team to victory in some way or another and if you failed to see that then you have failed to learn football 101 . The FACT is that Losman in not Brett Favre. The FACT is that they aren't the same person. The FACT is that they are completly opposites at this moment in each other careers.</div> yeah, Trent Dilfer ultimately led the Ravens to their superbowl victory, just like Brad Johnson (or whoever QB'd the Bucs) did for the Buccaneers, and Jim McMahon with the 85 bears Oh, and I love this part "The QB always USUALLY"
he can definetly beat DT those guys are slow as hell. Hes not gonna be Vick, and get gameplaned to stop his running but at least hes a lot faster than Bledsoe
believe it or not, Bledsoe actually scrambled a few times this year for some first downs. I think he got a TD as well on one scramble. On NFL Primetime, Trey Wingo or someone was all there like "And it looks like we get to see some of that vintage Bledsoe - showing off his blazing speed". I was laughing my @$$ off.
