Bogut Struggles in Debut

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Minneapolis - Andrew Bogut clearly was not happy with his performance in the Milwaukee Bucks' opening game of the Minnesota Summer League on Friday night.

    The 7-foot-1 Australian center finished with seven points and four rebounds in 28 minutes as the Bucks' summer league squad was flattened by the Minnesota Timberwolves, 102-69.

    "I definitely played pretty bad," said Bogut, the No. 1 overall pick in the June draft. "It was a big adjustment, fouls and stuff like that. It's a learning experience.

    "I wasn't in it today. I just didn't get in a groove. There was a lot of grabbing and holding, and it was tough to play. I was disappointed with the way I played, but that's the way it goes."

    Bogut shot 3 for 6 but looked to pass much more than he did to shoot. He blocked three shots, had three turnovers and picked up his fifth foul midway through the second quarter, although under summer league rules, no one fouls out. He did not commit a foul in the second half.

    "Just the feeling of the game was a little out of sorts," said Bucks coach Terry Stotts, who watched from the Target Center stands. "That's what summer league is for, to figure out things. He's a smart player, and he'll learn.

    Earlier this week, Stotts recalled that Tim Duncan struggled at times during his first summer league experience. The Bucks coach said he would like to see Bogut be more aggressive around the basket.

    "He's such a good passer, but I think he has to look to score," Stotts said, "especially in summer league. I don't want to take away his unselfishness. I think his passing is very important and we're going to need his passing during the regular season.

    "I don't want him to force his offense. But I would like him to be a little more aggressive looking to score, and I think his scoring will set up his passing."</div>

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  2. Midnight Green

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    This is surprising, because Bogut was sold as the most NBA ready player in the draft to see him struggle is very strange in my opinion. He sounds like he did pretty well on defense blocking three shots, but how did he only get six shot attempts in a summer league game? That shows he has to demand the ball more than he does right now if he wants to become a good big man. Also his ball control looks like it is ghastly right now if he has three turnovers in summer league how many will he have during the regular season. I guess the fact that he was frustrated with his performance shows that this will not be a constant event that happens. He will undeniable have to step up his game and prove something the next game.
     
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    Bust!













    Sike, no way. Just playin.
     
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    I can't believe this, it's uncalled for and a poor way to introduce youself to the league.

    I'm just playing, he'll be fine everybody has their bad days, don't worry about it..
     
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    I'm seriously hoping this is a one off. Does any one know when he will be playing his next game
     
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    He had 21 points, 13 rebounds, and 2 blocked shots in his second game. Nice way to bounce back.
     
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    thanks for that update, yeah he sure did light up the score board
     
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    in his first game he was really nervous with all the hype. he will be ok, im pretty sure
     
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    Thanks, Bobcat. At least he came back with a solid performance in game #2. He's probably going to take some time to get adjusted. You know what they say about young big men: they just take time. While Bogut has a ton of talent, I'm sure that he'll take some time, too. That's why I'm not expecting him to be a star right away. He'll take some time to get adjusted; he just needs to play hard and play defense, and the rest will work itself out.
     
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    Bogut?s summer league debut was most definitely very weak, but it isn't how you start it is how you finish and Bogut showed he can bounce back with a very good performance in his second game. When looking at his college stats he had a few average-low scoring games but it always seemed he redeem himself in the next games time, I think he needs to show more consistency if he plans on being a dominant center in the big leagues.
     
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    Everyone is really quick to jump on and say Bogut doesn't look all that good or he is gonna take a long time to develop or whatever, but remember that the guy is 20 years old. he's got a lot of maturing to do and he's just learning to play at a level where he faces elite competition. give him some time and he is gonna be fine. he has so much talent and you know he's gonna be a top center but you cant look at his first pre season game and start doubting.
     
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    yeah that's true we can only tell how good he is or not after a full season, and then some.
     
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    Number 1 pick?..LMFAO.

    The Australian Kwame Brown. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting legendisdope:</div><div class="quote_post">Number 1 pick?..LMFAO.

    The Australian Kwame Brown. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]</div>

    Reading your info, your signature, judging Bogut from his summer league preformance...you're an ass.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Reading your info, your signature, judging Bogut from his summer league preformance...you're an ass.</div>

    I agree.

    Bogut had a bad game. So what? Every player has a bad game. You cna't judge Bogut by one game. Truth be known he's probably a little nervous. But he bounced back with an outstanding performence.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Reading your info, your signature, judging Bogut from his summer league preformance...you're an ass.</div>

    lmao..and u love Carlos Arroyo. Your a retard.

    Bogut is trash..If you suck in summer league games, how do you expect to be good in the NBA?..Hes not even the talk of the summer league and hes the number 1 pick, thats a shame...Like I said..Kwame Brown.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting legendisdope:</div><div class="quote_post">lmao..and u love Carlos Arroyo. Your a retard.

    Bogut is trash..If you suck in summer league games, how do you expect to be good in the NBA?..Hes not even the talk of the summer league and hes the number 1 pick, thats a shame...Like I said..Kwame Brown.</div>


    While I don't agree with j0se's method of dealing with your somewhat hasty prognostication, I do think you need to deal with the issue at hand. The man did play a good second game, and one's first performance on a professional level, for any player, is often times a humbling experience. As Stotts said, Duncan struggled a little in summer league too, but I think he turned out all right.

    And no one player gets to be the talk of the summer league. Green's gotten good press, Maxiell's shown his stuff, Telfair was pretty darn good, Nate Robinson had a good one, Kaman, Allen, Diogu, the list goes on. Even David Lee had a good one, and almost no one outside of New York or Florida expected much from him.

    I think the person with the most reasonable expectation for Bogut's talents is Bogut. He has shown remarkable maturity for a twenty year old, and seems to be pretty realistic about his immediate impact on the Bucks. Every player deserves the chance to make his mark, and let's give him the chance before we damn him to mediocrity or worse.

    Also, the reason j0se likes Arroyo so much is because they're from the same town, and there's nothing wrong with being a homer, despite what people will tell you, so let's lay off a little.
     

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