<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Now the Celtics GM is faced with a new dilemma. Should Boston trade Paul Pierce? Pierce had his worst scoring average in five seasons in 2004-05. He also butted heads with coach Doc Rivers, making him a prime target to be dealt this offseason. Ainge has said he has gotten calls while word around the league is that Boston is shopping their 27-year old All-Star, possibly in a deal involving New Orleans' center Jamaal Magloire. I say he shouldn't even consider it. Pierce is one of the best at his position, an All-Star in the prime of his career. The likelihood of Boston securing anything of Pierce's caliber in a trade is slim to none, and slim just walked out the door. He deserves better than this from the Celtics, a team for which he has literally given his blood. His stabbing incident at the Buzz Club in '00 was one of the worst moments in Boston sports history, and Pierce didn't miss a game that season. Truth be told, Pierce has had his share of embarrassing moments. His boorish behavior almost cost Boston a victory in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals. But Kobe Bryant once brawled with Reggie Miller, and Alonzo Mourning once went toe-to-toe with Larry Johnson. Players are human -- they have emotions, just as we do, and must learn to manage them. Rather than trading Pierce because he does not fit the mold of the prototypical franchise player, the Celtics would be better served by building around him. Green, possessing the skills to possibly take the scoring mantle from Pierce, and Jefferson, a low-post stud who should only improve, are a solid start in that direction. Ainge has done an exceptional job at recognizing talent and allocating it correctly. Don't trade Pierce, Danny. If you do, you just might find yourself right back where you started.</div> Source Great article, this thread gon start some controversy, I like it. Lets hear what you think.
I definitely don't feel like we'd be back where we started, but I agree for the most part. No controversy here. Keep him, I've said it before, you can't get seventy cents on the dollar for the guy, although Danny has proved that picks are good way to go, but you couldn't spend 'em expecting to replace Pierce. I like his game, I don't like his attitude, but I've said before, a little meaningful victory will do wonders for him. He just wants this to win while he's capable of contributing. I don't agree that he's in his prime, but I do think he will improve drastically on last season. I also think the next Boston championship will involve Paul, so that says enough on my part.
Its strange because I know of some people that want pierce gone really bad, but when i post an article about why he should stay no1 respondz.....
That "article" is nothing but a waste of time. Basically he says that we shouldn't trade Pierce because he's an all-star and we won't get equal value. What he fails to mention is anything other than that. Where's the substance? If you're going to write an article that's trying to prove a point, you should get into detail a little bit. He only mentions one potential deal, but fails to name more than one player that would be involved.
it also proves, that you cant really be mad at pierce because of what he did in the playoffs, because many other players have done it also its just emotion, he didnt really hurt any1. Also he mentions some things pierce has done for our team which some people dont appreciate. Postin an article on Pierce is a waste of time? hmm... wow anyways and whats witchu just correcting people and not putting your opinion.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">it also proves, that you cant really be mad at pierce because of what he did in the playoffs, because many other players have done it also its just emotion, he didnt really hurt any1.</div>Yes, he mentioned two players....how satisfying to know that the author could only think of two other players that have lost it in critical situations like that.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also he mentions some things pierce has done for our team which some people dont appreciate. Postin an article on Pierce is a waste of time? hmm...</div>No, the actual article is a waste of time. It's written for SI...in other words...for the CASUAL fan. That's not me... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">wow anyways and whats witchu just correcting people and not putting your opinion.</div>I did give my opinion. You posted an article. I thought I was supposed to comment on it, so I did.
w.e. it aint like i wrote that article i just put it here to see how many people want him back or not.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">w.e. it aint like i wrote that article i just put it here to see how many people want him back or not.</div>But you didn't say that. You just posted the article, so I didn't know I was supposed to answer any questions. Yes, I'd like to see Pierce traded. For the right deal, that is. We shouldn't trade him just to trade him...we should wait for equal value. Hopefully it can be a player that is younger than him, and definitely one that's more mature than him. Our young nucleus is more important to us than Pierce is. That's why we need to build around them and not him. We need his max contract off the books, but we also need something in return.
just ideas.. DET Arroyo Halmiton for Pierce SAC Stojakovic Willamson Thomas for Pierce and LaFrentz POR Van Exel Telfair for Pierce MIN Cassel Kandiman 1st rounder for Pierce
Going along with the title of the thread...because hes a clutch performer.An elite player at his position.He gets to the free throw line,scores easy points.Id love it if the Kings could get him through a trade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He deserves better than this from the Celtics, a team for which he has literally given his blood. His stabbing incident at the Buzz Club in '00 was one of the worst moments in Boston sports history, and Pierce didn't miss a game that season. </div> says it all right there. Pierce isnt just a player than anyone should want on their team, hes the kind of MAN everyone should want representing their team
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Going along with the title of the thread...because hes a clutch performer.An elite player at his position.He gets to the free throw line,scores easy points.Id love it if the Kings could get him through a trade.</div> Elite player? Yes. Scores easy points? No question. And yes, he is as good as everyone says he is, but clutch? God no. The man has hit less than a half dozen game winners in seven years in the league. But more than that, the guy makes bonehead mistakes in crunch time. He makes costly turnovers, he gets into fights, he misses key free throws (which is a cardinal sin in the clutch), and he rarely, if ever, makes that game winner that sets players apart from being elite to being transcendant. Aside from that, yes he has given his blood to the team, but he no longer gives his heart to the team. He plays distracted, and he plays half-heartedly lately. Not on par with Vince, but you can see the difference in his game. And the fact that he plays that way and still puts up the numbers he does is a testament to how great he could be. And when I say these things, I do not mean to knock Pierce, I think any player on par with him would be pretty fed up with rebuilding after rebuilding after rebuilding as well. A little taste of victory will wake this man right up, and I think we have the team to do it, but it will take effort from him to pull that off, and therein lies the rub. Here's to hoping the youngsters can light a fire under him. And as for him not being clutch, that's just the way it is, it doesn't mean he's a terrible player or that I want him gone or this that and the other, I just think he's not clutch, don't read into any more than that.
^^ ya def. people saying Pierce isnt clutch to me is a mystery. May 25, 2002 Game 3 Eastern Conf. Finals! After three quarters Celtics down by 21, then Pierce in the fourth takes over for 19 in the fourth and the Celtics win!=Clutch Then THIS PAST SEASON ALONE!!!!! Celtics Vs. Blazers..you already know=CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. Heat the double pick and the swish!!!! for the win!!!!!=CLUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. 76ers Made the shot to win the game 76ers didnt score again.(Celtics wouldve lost that game Celtics wouldve had trouble becoming Division leaders)=CLUUUUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. Bucks.. hits another one to win it...ARE YOU KIDDING ME=CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTCH By the way the heat,76ers,and Bucks game winners ya THOSE GAMES/GAMEWINNERS WERE ALL IN A ROW! (By the way dont come back at me saying hes not clutch because in the playoffs he made a bad decision because plz he got punched in the face thats not missing a game winner.) well to back it even more hoops hype says it best: http://www.hoopshype.com/players/paul_pierce.htm <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Great performer under pressure...your man in the fourth quarter.</div> Im not saying he doesnt make a mistake underpressure, cuz no1 is perfect, but common now you know this guy is clutch.
After all Pierce did I would say that Antione Walker's comments after game 6 about Reggie was the stupidest thing of the playoffs. If anybody, I would get rid of Walker
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">^^ ya def. people saying Pierce isnt clutch to me is a mystery. May 25, 2002 Game 3 Eastern Conf. Finals! After three quarters Celtics down by 21, then Pierce in the fourth takes over for 19 in the fourth and the Celtics win!=Clutch Then THIS PAST SEASON ALONE!!!!! Celtics Vs. Blazers..you already know=CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. Heat the double pick and the swish!!!! for the win!!!!!=CLUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. 76ers Made the shot to win the game 76ers didnt score again.(Celtics wouldve lost that game Celtics wouldve had trouble becoming Division leaders)=CLUUUUUUUUUUUTCH Celtics Vs. Bucks.. hits another one to win it...ARE YOU KIDDING ME=CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTCH By the way the heat,76ers,and Bucks game winners ya THOSE GAMES/GAMEWINNERS WERE ALL IN A ROW! (By the way dont come back at me saying hes not clutch because in the playoffs he made a bad decision because plz he got punched in the face thats not missing a game winner.) well to back it even more hoops hype says it best: http://www.hoopshype.com/players/paul_pierce.htm Im not saying he doesnt make a mistake underpressure, cuz no1 is perfect, but common now you know this guy is clutch.</div> great points. people who say pierce isnt clutch are just focusing on the few negatives in a long line of positives. its not wonder they call pierce Mr/ 4th quarter. One of the leaders among the entire NBA in 4th quarter scoring the last sevral years
Just cuz someone's scoring average wasnt as high as previous years doesnt mean he isnt as good a player as before. Even though Pierce did accumulate less points this year, he scored very efficiently, shooting at 46% from the field and 37% from 3pt. He also commited less turnovers and was given less minutes to play. I think that he is still the player he was say 3 years ago, and that the only problem is his attitude. Since Boston won't get another superstar back, they shouldnt trade Pierce.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">After all Pierce did I would say that Antione Walker's comments after game 6 about Reggie was the stupidest thing of the playoffs. If anybody, I would get rid of Walker</div>What comments? Are you talking about when he said that it <font size="5">MIGHT BE</font> Miller's last game at Conseco? What's so bad about that?
well don't you think that comments kind of disrespectful to a legend also a HOFer..anyway i think they'll get rid of Walker and Pierce sonner or later...ainge really wants to bring along his young talent,Green,Gomes,Jefferson,Allen,Banks, and West.. but iono i really can't see paul in any other jersey
