All the reports are saying the Mavs will probably end up getting rid of Finley, and he is a solid veteran who can play SG. Any chance the Magic could pick him up?
they could but i really dont care to get him. i think we need a point guard more than a shooting guard. our starting five is fine for now, we also have deshawn to play off of the bench and i guarantee you he is cheaper than finley. no point in paying finley the big bucks to come off the bench.
I would love for the Magic to sign Finley because we would get to move Steve Francis back to his original position. I think that Finley would be a huge acquisition and I would love for him to come to Orlando but I don't see it happening. Finley is getting older and is still looking to get a championship under his belt and I don't think he would come to Orlando when teams like Detroit, Miami, San Antonio and Phoenix are pursing him. The Magic look to have a promising future but until Howard fully develops into a superstar, I don't think we will get many veterens trying to come here to win a championship. Most guys are looking to win right now and I think the Magic are just a few years away from that level.
Swish15 I agree with your comment. I think players that are out of their prime are looking to go to a contending team like spurs, heat, suns, or pistons. They want to be the player that makes that team more complete. Sort of how mcdyess and mourning are to their teams. I dont think we need finely. We dont need another player coming in and taking shots away from howard. I think we need to suck it up for a year and let howard develop into the superstar he can be. I think we leave our money in our pockets and wait till all our of contract expire and get a player that will help solidfy howard and nelson.
i gotta disagree with you here swish... if we move francis back to point guard the rest of the team including dwight and jameer, wouldnt get enough opportunities. Francis was never good at distributing the ball, he's a scorer. i think his natural position is at shooting guard. Jameer should do a much better job passing the ball around and getting everyone involved. Finley would do exactly wat francis is going to do, but not as well.
I have to disagree there, Francis averaged 7 assists last year, and this year I noticed he gave up the ball alot to Dwight on fastbreaks. Jameer is still learning and with Francis at SG we are very undersized. Francis is a scorer, but not necessarily a shooting guard. I'd rather have Grant be our SG. However, Jameer is good enough to start and maybe the Magic will be successful with Francis at SG. BTW, can we just get rid of Doug Christie? That trade is still bothering me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wink23:</div><div class="quote_post">I have to disagree there, ... Francis is a scorer, but not necessarily a shooting guard. I'd rather have Grant be our SG. However, Jameer is good enough to start and maybe the Magic will be successful with Francis at SG. </div>
so you agree with francis being a scorer right? that was my point and with him at pg our other players (such as jameer) will not develop. francis will still get to be tha franchise we all love at SG. and the decision was already made, didnt you get the note? francis is the orlando magic's SG in 2005-06
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MickyEyez:</div><div class="quote_post">so you agree with francis being a scorer right? that was my point and with him at pg our other players (such as jameer) will not develop. francis will still get to be tha franchise we all love at SG. and the decision was already made, didnt you get the note? francis is the orlando magic's SG in 2005-06</div> If that is the case then we will be looking at a very long season again. That was the note when Weisbrod was the GM and without a coach, now we have new GM's and a coach in place. Brian Hill even commented in a news article about maybe moving Grant Hill to SG if we got a SF. Jameer is better suited on our team as a bench player or starter only if Francis wasn't playing the 2. I am hoping that Francis is the 1 this year. Yes he wasn't that great of a passer and would dribble out the clock, but Francis at the 2 would make our defense so much worse and you thought last year's defense was bad? Opposing teams would score at will against us.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MickyEyez:</div><div class="quote_post">so you agree with francis being a scorer right? that was my point and with him at pg our other players (such as jameer) will not develop. francis will still get to be tha franchise we all love at SG. and the decision was already made, didnt you get the note? francis is the orlando magic's SG in 2005-06</div> No I didnt get the note, because I dont work in the Magic front office. Francis is a scorer but not a shooter. He drives and shoots free throws better than being the go to shooter in an offense. But I'd still rather have him shooting it than Jameer. Francis is going to put up around the same numbers at PG or SG, but having him as a SG is a liability on defense. Jameer did do well as a starter, but we also need a solid bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MickyEyez:</div><div class="quote_post">i gotta disagree with you here swish... if we move francis back to point guard the rest of the team including dwight and jameer, wouldnt get enough opportunities. Francis was never good at distributing the ball, he's a scorer. i think his natural position is at shooting guard. Jameer should do a much better job passing the ball around and getting everyone involved. Finley would do exactly wat francis is going to do, but not as well.</div> Yeah I guess you are right but I'm almost positive Finley will want to go to a contender. The Magic are still a few years away from being on that level and it wouldn't make any sense for an aging veteren to come to Orlando where he will have to wait to get a few years before having a shot at a ring.
Man we should definitely pick up Finley.. He's good for 15 ppg and will greatly improve our team. But this has no chane of happening, nice to think about though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting FlaBoy:</div><div class="quote_post">I like Fin we should sign him another good vet teach Dwight/Nelson the ropes is fine with me.</div> I think we would all like to sign him but it's going to be hard to get him over championship contenders.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">If that is the case then we will be looking at a very long season again. That was the note when Weisbrod was the GM and without a coach, now we have new GM's and a coach in place. Brian Hill even commented in a news article about maybe moving Grant Hill to SG if we got a SF. Jameer is better suited on our team as a bench player or starter only if Francis wasn't playing the 2. I am hoping that Francis is the 1 this year. Yes he wasn't that great of a passer and would dribble out the clock, but Francis at the 2 would make our defense so much worse and you thought last year's defense was bad? Opposing teams would score at will against us.</div> woop... good stuff, defense would be a problem, but hasnt it always been? what do you think the best solution would be? cuz by the way i've read articles about how brian hill has made his decision to stick francis at the 2 guard. the front office may know other things and if so please share. i go by what i read. gatorsown and swish... good stuff. i just wanted some open opinions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MickyEyez:</div><div class="quote_post">woop... good stuff, defense would be a problem, but hasnt it always been? what do you think the best solution would be? cuz by the way i've read articles about how brian hill has made his decision to stick francis at the 2 guard. the front office may know other things and if so please share. i go by what i read. gatorsown and swish... good stuff. i just wanted some open opinions.</div> Yes defense has been a problem the last 2 years especially. I credit that to the coaching staff, Johnny Davis was horrible, he never made any adjustments and we just had the biggest problem. When Jent came in, our D improved a little bit. Brian Hill had the Magic ranked in the top half of the league in defense when he coached the first time. (around like 10-15 is what I read, I didn't actually get this info though) We have great talent defensively. Dwight and Cato are great shot blockers downlow, Jameer can guard the smaller guards(AI types) effectively and Francis is solid against the smaller point guards. Hill is a very underrated defender as well. Stevenson is very underrated at defense, he is very quick and doesn't allow other guards to pass him. Offense will still be the key, but I think we will get lower, even 15-20 in D would be great with the capabilities that our players have on offense. About the articles, I haven't read really anything that says Francis at the 2 is set in stone. I still think that Hill is deciding on it. I would prefer having Stevenson start at SG and Francis at the point with Jameer off the bench.
