<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By Branson Wright Plain Dealer Reporter The Cavaliers continued to bolster their roster by reaching an agreement with free agent power forward Donyell Marshall on Tuesday. Marshall, according to sources, will sign a four-year deal worth between $20 and $25 million. Marshall, who played in Toronto last season, averages 12.4 points and 7.3 rebounds over his 11-year career. Marshall, guard Larry Hughes and center Zydrunas Ilgauskas are expected to officially sign free agent contracts with the Cavaliers on Friday, the earliest date free agents can sign with teams.</div> Link
I was upset when I heard about this. But not only did we lose Marshall, we also lost Swift and Abdur-Rahim two players that could have potentially come here to play for us. At the end of the day I was really expecting to get Abdur-Rahim nor Swift, but I thought we had a good chance at Marshall. Well since Marshall is out of the picture, where do we look now to improve our frount court? Perhaps Hunter or Dale Davis?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">I was upset when I heard about this. But not only did we lose Marshall, we also lost Swift and Abdur-Rahim two players that could have potentially come here to play for us. At the end of the day I was really expecting to get Abdur-Rahim nor Swift, but I thought we had a good chance at Marshall. Well since Marshall is out of the picture, where do we look now to improve our frount court? Perhaps Hunter or Dale Davis?</div> i'd say hunter. if we can sign him great, if not, then we should look at dale davis. the only problem i have with dale is that he is a good rebounder, and he does find ways to score, but he is way too old. we do need veterens, but IMO,dale davis is in the age which he should retire.
After losing out on the three top guys the Sixers were after (Swift, Marshall, and Abdur-Rahim) Billy King should now turn his focus to re-signing Willie Green, Samuel Dalembert, and Kyle Korver. If somebody offers Dalembert max dollar, King I would think would have to make a decision wheather to make Dalembert the future of this franchise or to do a sign and trade.
I'd say Davis has 2 solid years left in him. Peronsally, I would take Davis. He's much smarter, he has tons more of experience and has better court awarness now while Hunter can grab boards, give energy and is a better shot blocker, he fumbles the ball way to often and he is one that has a knack for getting lost in his defensive assignment. At the of the day, I think either one of them would be great, but Davis would be by far better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting C.K.:</div><div class="quote_post">After losing out on the three top guys the Sixers were after (Swift, Marshall, and Abdur-Rahim) Billy King should now turn his focus to re-signing Willie Green, Samuel Dalembert, and Kyle Korver. If somebody offers Dalembert max dollar, King I would think would have to make a decision wheather to make Dalembert the future of this franchise or to do a sign and trade.</div> sixers were after swift and shareef? i never knew that.
Man, I'm really pissed off at this. I actually thought we had the best chance of landing him but oh well. He really would have helped the front court but now that he's going to Cleveland, I think we need to focus the attention on resigning Dalembert, Korver, and Green. However, if the one of the contracts get too expensive such as Dalembert's or Korver's, my belief is that Philadelphia should trade one of them away for a good frontcourt player. Preferably, I'd like to keep Dalembert since he currently can contribute the most and still have the potential to become great in the long run. Anywho, regarding the free agents to go after during the negotiations and signing period- Dale Davis or Reggie Evans. Out of those three guys, I think the most probable would be Davis since he isn't expecting much of a contract and could come cheap. But, out of those two I'd want Evans the most. He is a monster on the boards and although he isn't an offensive threat now, Evans still has time to grow and work on his low post offense. Plus, Seattle has tons of free agents to resign this offseason but I'm just not sure where Evans is on that list.
Personally if we could get Dale Davis, Reggie Evans or Steven Hunter, that wouldn't be too bad..It just sucks that the Cavs snatched up Marshall.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Psycho Drama:</div><div class="quote_post">Personally if we could get Dale Davis, Reggie Evans or Steven Hunter, that wouldn't be too bad..It just sucks that the Cavs snatched up Marshall.</div> i really think evans is the best option. he is a feirce rebounder and will really help this team defensively. the only thing is that he's limited offensive wise. the second best option is hunter, and the third, is dale davis. if we sign davis, billy better not make a stupid move and sign him to long term.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i really think evans is the best option. he is a feirce rebounder and will really help this team defensively. the only thing is that he's limited offensive wise. the second best option is hunter, and the third, is dale davis. if we sign davis, billy better not make a stupid move and sign him to long term. </div> Reggie Evans is only 25 I think so he still has enough time to develop his offensive game. He has the body to muscle his way through defenders so putting up points shouldn't really be a problem for him. Personally, I think Hunter's overrated since he plays on a team that has a lot of talent, so teams usually don't guard him at all- instead choosing to double team Stoudemire. Dale Davis is 36, so I honestly don't anyone would be stupid enough to sign him to a long term deal.
Man, I am very disappointed that the 76ers were not able to sign Marshall. What has me thinking is did Billy King even attempt to sign him or is he too focused on signing the three young players? Man I was so confident that Marshall would sign with Philadelphia considering both sides expressed interest in Donyell coming back to play for his home town. I really think that Marshall was the player that could put the Sixers over the top. Now my next pick would have to be Antoine Walker but I doubt he would want to sign with Philly for MLE.
This is droll, because we all had already signed Marshall to the 76ers team from the moment free agency began. Cleveland of all places really surprises me I did not know they even had contacted him I would have thought he would have gone to the Lakers, Bulls, or Wizards. Anyway I think this is best for the 76ers Marshall is a good player, but is not what we need in my opinion he is to trigger happy from the perimeter. We need a guy at power forward who will go inside, and bang around we have not had that since ewe traded Corless Williams. Webber is at the point in his career he can not be a solid inside guy any more, and Marshall would have been another guy who would not have gone inside. When we have watched the all star game the past couple seasons we see that when AI has a power forward inside that guy will get easy baskets, because the defense will collapse on Allen allowing him to dish it out to the wide open power forward/center. This is one of the main reasons Dalembert has been so successful. A free agent the 76ers should target is Reggie Evans. He was underrated in his starting role in Seattle, and would provide the team with a solid backup for Chris Webber who can finish around the basket if he is open underneath. He does not travel to the perimeter so he will get easy buckets. Or Clifford Robinson he I a veteran who although has a good mid range shot does not only rely on that alone. He is a tough hard-nosed guy so we should target him since the Nets did not pick up the option on him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When we have watched the all star game the past couple seasons we see that when AI has a power forward inside that guy will get easy baskets, because the defense will collapse on Allen allowing him to dish it out to the wide open power forward/center.</div> Your basing your ideas of what kind of powerforward we should get on All-Star games? Anywho, we don't necessarily need a four that bangs down low. Although I did say that Reggie Evans would be my pick, after Marshall signed with the Cavs, I would have definitely taken Marshall if I had to choose between the two. You say Philadelphia needs someone that can have the ball dished to in the post when Iverson is being collapsed on- there's Dalembert for that, if he's resigned that is. Besides, Cheeks could have utilized a system with Marshall going inside or out because he is versatile enough. Plus, it looks like a does a pretty nice job of shooting three's for someone you just jacks them up- .416 from the 3.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Your basing your ideas of what kind of powerforward we should get on All-Star games? Anywho, we don't necessarily need a four that bangs down low. Although I did say that Reggie Evans would be my pick, after Marshall signed with the Cavs, I would have definitely taken Marshall if I had to choose between the two. You say Philadelphia needs someone that can have the ball dished to in the post when Iverson is being collapsed on- there's Dalembert for that, if he's resigned that is. Besides, Cheeks could have utilized a system with Marshall going inside or out because he is versatile enough. Plus, it looks like a does a pretty nice job of shooting three's for someone you just jacks them up- .416 from the 3.</div> On a pure talent level of course you would take Marshall over Evans, but if I had a player that averaged the same type of stats as Marshall, and played down low instead of from the perimeter I would take him over Marshall every day of the week. Am I basing my opinion on an all star game alone? No I was using it as an example I could also have said the Olympics, but those are the only two examples I had since those are the only times AI played with other players. Even if he does do a good job shooting threes with his size why just stay out there all day? As far as Cheeks implementing a system which would have turned him into a player he goes down low I find that hard to swallow he has been in the league a while now, and had many different coaches none have been able to do that. Also another reason we need a guy who goes inside, and hangs around the basket a lot is for rebounding purposes we were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league last year, and we barely got second chance oppurtunies when Dalembert was off the court.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> On a pure talent level of course you would take Marshall over Evans, but if I had a player that averaged the same type of stats as Marshall, and played down low instead of from the perimeter I would take him over Marshall every day of the week. </div> They don't average around the same numbers. Evans obviously kills him in rebounding but Marshall averages around seven points more than him. Their field goal percentage is pretty much the same- although Evans is higher since he strictly plays down low. Besides, its pretty hard to draw conclusions from the All Star games and Olympics- Iverson's matched up with elite players in those type games. However, I do understand that we need a rebounder, but I feel that Marshall would have been a competent enough rebounder for our needs. I don't watch much Toronto games, but I just have a sense that he wasn't put in situations where he could rebound the ball well. Most of the time he was played next to Chris Bosh, who is a pretty good rebounder right? Still, I understand where you're coming from. By all means I have to say he isn't a good rebounder, but in my opinion, a competent one if put in the right situations. I've already said in my first post that we should go after Reggie Evans simply because he can rebound- whom hopefully we'll go after.
I wanted the Sixers to get Marshall, and weren't that upset untill I heard who he signed with. I dont want to lose guys to contenders that we will have to face come playoff time. Shareef signed with the Nets, Marshall with the Cavs, those are two teams that are arguably better then us right now. I don't know about the Cavs, but the starting 5 of Snow, Hughes, LeBron, Marshall, and Z look pretty good on paper, as does Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, Abdur-Rahim, and Cristic sounds damn good too. I still say we are a solid PF backup away from being a contender for the Eastern Coference.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post"> Still, I understand where you're coming from. By all means I have to say he isn't a good rebounder, but in my opinion, a competent one if put in the right situations. I've already said in my first post that we should go after Reggie Evans simply because he can rebound- whom hopefully we'll go after.</div> Marshall isn't a good rebounder?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Marshall isn't a good rebounder?</div> Nevermind, I meant GREAT rebounder.
