Antoine Walker?

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  1. Really Lost One

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">King, though, said there weren?t many available players that he felt comfortable giving the whole midlevel contract to, mostly because of age. The Sixers are looking at Miami?s Christian Laettner and Boston?s Antoine Walker to possibly fill that spot.</div>

    link: http://kyw.com/Local%20News/local_story_201144153.html

    the sixers are looking at walker? i never knew that. i think if we could get him then that would be great. but what position will he play? because c-webb is already player PF.

    as for christian laettner, i would stay away from him. i'd rather get someone like reggie evans with the money.
     
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    I doubt this due to the fact that CWebb and Walker will start *itching and complaining about the starting PF spot and playing time.

    I can't see this happening.

    Plus, who wants to un-athletic past prime PF's along with unathletic @ss Marc Jackson?
     
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    Walker is a good player; I think he is the best player that is still around the market. I would like the 76ers very much to go after him. Although Walker was an immature player in the beginning of his career, his game has definitely improved over time, as he has gotten smarter and mature. He proved this with the Celtics when they asked him to play the inside game and I think he played it well. Although Webber is playing P, this lineup would be very interesting,

    C-assuming San signed
    PF-Webber
    SF-Antoine Walker
    SG-Andre Iguodala
    PG-Allen Iverson

    In my eyes that line up could get us places, but they would take time to for them to mesh, they would all have to sacrifice their games to be successful.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Walker is a good player; I think he is the best player that is still around the market. I would like the 76ers very much to go after him. Although Walker was an immature player in the beginning of his career, his game has definitely improved over time, as he has gotten smarter and mature. He proved this with the Celtics when they asked him to play the inside game and I think he played it well. Although Webber is playing P, this lineup would be very interesting,

    C-assuming San signed
    PF-Webber
    SF-Antoine Walker
    SG-Andre Iguodala
    PG-Allen Iverson

    In my eyes that line up could get us places, but they would take time to for them to mesh, they would all have to sacrifice their games to be successful.</div>

    wow! that's a great starting line up. but can walker be able to play small forward succefully?
     
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    Walker could play small forward, but I don?t want him on the team. He shoots too much from the perimeter, and doesn?t shoot well from there either. Also his mouth is to big he is always saying things that come back to bite him later. This would also take shot attempts away from Igoudala he is the future we need to let him develop not push him back to the fourth or fifth option in the starting lineup on the offensive end.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    C-assuming San signed
    PF-Webber
    SF-Antoine Walker
    SG-Andre Iguodala
    PG-Allen Iverson

    In my eyes that line up could get us places, but they would take time to for them to mesh, they would all have to sacrifice their games to be successful.</div>
    Walker doesn't have the athleticism to play small forward. With that lineup, in my opinion the team becomes much slower and playing a half court setting wouldn't really be smart since we would be wasting the athleticism of most of our players. It could have just been because O'Brien was coach, but when we would slow it down, the entire offense seemed out of sinc and screwed up the games for us. On top of that, Walker is another player that needs to ball to thrive. With Iverson and Webber already needing to share the ball and make things happen, I highly doubt Walker would play his optimal level with just a few touches.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Walker doesn't have the athleticism to play small forward. With that lineup, in my opinion the team becomes much slower and playing a half court setting wouldn't really be smart since we would be wasting the athleticism of most of our players. It could have just been because O'Brien was coach, but when we would slow it down, the entire offense seemed out of sinc and screwed up the games for us. On top of that, Walker is another player that needs to ball to thrive. With Iverson and Webber already needing to share the ball and make things happen, I highly doubt Walker would play his optimal level with just a few touches.</div>
    Yet Kyle Korver does have the athleticism to play small forward? Walker may play out of position but he gives us another threat in the paint, and remember Webber doesn't play inside anymore. Guys like Adbur Rahim are post up small forwards, and I think Toine could fit in the category. I realize that he would need his touches but if the rest of the 76ers sacrifice their games to get others involves wouldn't that be a better thing. Yes the 76ers are a running team; you act like Toine won't be able to run up and down the court. Besides during the playoffs against the Pistons the 76ers were not able to run and gun, and look what happened they were forced to score in the half court and they struggled pretty bad. Besides AI and C Webb, who consistently provided scoring on the team? I can't think of anyone as of now that was consistent, all the other guys could not really create their own shot. That is where Walker comes in; he is a veteran who has learned the game much better. I don't think it is the same Walker who helped set an NBA record for three shot in a season. If AI, Chris, and Walker could put their egos aside and play like a team, the 76ers would be a very dangerous team.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> He shoots too much from the perimeter, and doesn?t shoot well from there either</div>
    Really? The last time I checked he shoots about the same fg% as Allen Iverson does, and a better 3 point fg% then Allen. That is an unfair assumption of Walker from his old days of jacking up shots.
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] I would love to get toine he could play the 3 and kyle can come off the bench were he is more wanted. Toine can rebound and score it just helps take off pressure off sammy and chris. Philly could be a real good team if they can mesh together. I see a championship next year what about YALL
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Also his mouth is to big he is always saying things that come back to bite him later.</div>I'm not sure where you're getting that from because Walker always says the right things off the court. The only negative things I've heard out of his mouth were towards Danny Ainge, back when 'Toine was bitter about being traded to Dallas.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not sure where you're getting that from because Walker always says the right things off the court. The only negative things I've heard out of his mouth were towards Danny Ainge, back when 'Toine was bitter about being traded to Dallas.</div>
    Post game interview after beating the Pacers and taking a 3-2 series lead I believe saying they just saw Millers last game as a Pacer in that arena. That was pretty bad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Really? The last time I checked he shoots about the same fg% as Allen Iverson does, and a better 3 point fg% then Allen. That is an unfair assumption of Walker from his old days of jacking up shots.</div>
    You say shoots almost the same field goal percentage as Allen as if it?s a good thing. Allen Iverson is a shooting guard and shoots a slightly better percentage than Walker that is horrible for a power forward shooting 42% we do not need that. He shoots a better percentage then AI from three lands by two percent. Yet attempted 341 three point shots compared to Iverson?s 338 so you have your power forward shooting more threes than your guard. Is that what we need?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Yet Kyle Korver does have the athleticism to play small forward? </div>
    In my opinion, yes. Korver has less bulk on him meaning that he would be able to run the floor faster. Korver seems to be more fit for the full court offense that we undoubtly would be running. You saw how bad our half court sets were- we struggled immensely, see the Pistons series.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Walker may play out of position but he gives us another threat in the paint, and remember Webber doesn't play inside anymore. Guys like Adbur Rahim are post up small forwards, and I think Toine could fit in the category.</div>
    I have a feeling that Walker's contract will end up being pretty expensive no matter what team he's on. He still has the "elite" aurora about him so teams still would be willing to go into a bidding war for him. We simply do not have enough cap space to sign him. Why not sign someone that can play in the paint for cheap? Reggie Evans! In my opinion, I think we just need someone that can defend really well and put up some put backs or garbage points.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I realize that he would need his touches but if the rest of the 76ers sacrifice their games to get others involves wouldn't that be a better thing. </div>
    Okay, so going by your starting lineup consisting of Iverson, Iguodala, Walker, Webber, and Dalembert- three of those guys are going to need touches. Iverson needs a lot, I'm sure you're familiar with that already and Webber obviously needs some as well- seeing how he struggled when O'Brien tried putting him in Kenny Thomas' role. Not to mention with Dalembert and Iguodala having to give up touches, I think it would hurt their development.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes the 76ers are a running team; you act like Toine won't be able to run up and down the court. Besides during the playoffs against the Pistons the 76ers were not able to run and gun, and look what happened they were forced to score in the half court and they struggled pretty bad.</div>
    I agree with the fact that Philadelphia is a horrible half court team.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If AI, Chris, and Walker could put their egos aside and play like a team, the 76ers would be a very dangerous team.</div>
    I just don't think so, I know my opinion on this is different from yours.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">You say shoots almost the same field goal percentage as Allen as if it?s a good thing. Allen Iverson is a shooting guard and shoots a slightly better percentage than Walker that is horrible for a power forward shooting 42% we do not need that. He shoots a better percentage then AI from three lands by two percent. Yet attempted 341 three point shots compared to Iverson?s 338 so you have your power forward shooting more threes than your guard. Is that what we need?</div>
    Allen Iverson is a point guard today. Ok so Walkers offensive game is that of a guard, you act like that is a bad thing when it would really help the 76ers out. When he played for Atl it was his job to shoot the shots, when he was traded back to Boston they asked him to play the inside role and he did. That is something Philadelphia need on the 76ers.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In my opinion, yes. Korver has less bulk on him meaning that he would be able to run the floor faster. Korver seems to be more fit for the full court offense that we undoubtly would be running. You saw how bad our half court sets were- we struggled immensely, see the Pistons series.</div>
    There is no way in hell that Kyle Korver is more athletic then Antoine Walker. Kyle Korver does not weigh as much but that is due to the fact that he is 3 inches shorter then Walker, so in transition it is not much off a difference for a 6-9 person to be 245 pounds. Besides just because you weigh more does not mean you are slower then someone who weighs less then you. My dad weighs 100 more pounds then me but yet he could probably still beat me in a race. I bet you that Toine could beat Korver in a 40-yard dash. Not to mention he is probably a better defender even though neither are really worth mentioning on the defense.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson is a point guard today. Ok so Walkers offensive game is that of a guard, you act like that is a bad thing when it would really help the 76ers out. When he played for Atl it was his job to shoot the shots, when he was traded back to Boston they asked him to play the inside role and he did. That is something Philadelphia need on the 76ers.</div>
    Your trying to tell me when your power forward shoots more threes than your guard shoots, and has a higher percentage only by two points and has an overall field goal of percentage of 42% it is not a bad thing? The players on the front line are suppose to be the ones who you can count on to have a high field goal percentage mainly power forward and center. Like I have said numerous times before as well I don?t want King to sign a guy who shoots so many times from three point land. That is not his job he does not even shoot them well. The 76ers do not need another shooter from the outside, and even if they did Walker would not be it. We have a reason for resigning Korver it's his outside shot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Post game interview after beating the Pacers and taking a 3-2 series lead I believe saying they just saw Millers last game as a Pacer in that arena. That was pretty bad.</div>Please do not mis-quote the man. That is not what he said.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In his post game interview Antonie Walker said, ?I think Reggie <u>might have</u> just played his last game in this building.?</div>
    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...me_7_in_boston/
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Your trying to tell me when your power forward shoots more threes than your guard shoots, and has a higher percentage only by two points and has an overall field goal of percentage of 42% it is not a bad thing? The players on the front line are suppose to be the ones who you can count on to have a high field goal percentage mainly power forward and center. Like I have said numerous times before as well I don?t want King to sign a guy who shoots so many times from three point land. That is not his job he does not even shoot them well. The 76ers do not need another shooter from the outside, and even if they did Walker would not be it. We have a reason for resigning Korver it's his outside shot.</div>
    You don't think Walker can score from the inside? Go to the Celtics forum and ask them, the guys who watch every game they will tell you that he can score inside. I realize he shoots a lot from the outside but again that could be used to our advantage, remember when AI penetrates it is good to have shooters who can nail the outside shot. When you have a guy that has size and can shoot from the outside, that is just another weapon to add to your arsenal.
     
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    After looking into it I would pull the trigger if I were the Sixers. What do they got to lose? Everybody around the division, every where you turn, are all making noise this off-season except for the Sixers. A lot of people forget, Walker is still only 28-years old and has a good four or five years left in him. Walker is definitely an upgrade at the small forward spot then Kyle Korver, and would move Korver to the bench where he should be.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting N4S:</div><div class="quote_post">Plus, who wants to un-athletic past prime PF's along with unathletic @ss Marc Jackson?</div>

    Actually like I said before, Walker is only 28 which means he should be in the middle of his prime, not past it. Plus Walker should be able to last longer then the average power forward in the league because of his shooting ability.
     
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    IMO, walker would be a great addition to this team. he brings experience and talent. if i were billy king, i would definetly bring him in. the sixers really need to catch up on this division if they want to win it all. the nets got shareef, and richard jefferson will be back, the knicks added 3 good rookies and jerome james, the raptors added pieces of the future, plus they still have a lot of room under the cap, and the celtics added huge pieces to their already bright future. the sixers right know are the same team they were last year minus samuel dalembert. they dont have any new additions, unless you count louis, who probably will be going to the nbdl. as of now, i see the nets in first place, and the celtics in second. can we make the playoffs being 3rd in the atlantic? probably not, so if billy king can sign a big impact player like antoinie walker, not christian lathner or carl crawford (spelling), i see the sixers competing for not only the first place in the atlantic, but maybe even in the conference finals.
     

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