Since T-Mac can switch between SG and SF, do you think we should be looking to sign a big, strong SF who could also play PF, or guard/forawd much in the mold of T-Mac who can interchange with him (such as Finley).
i think g/f because that is the position we have the least "speed" at. and we get burned at that position.
I think more of a 2 guard would work better. we do need padgett IMO to be T-Mac's backup, it would hurt anything for him to play 1-2mpg less than last year
I think keeping mcgrady at 3 creates mismatches for the opposition. I wouldnt want him having to be matched up against the elite guards in the league. We need this guy to be healthy and to have fresh leagues come playoffs.
I'd rather we'd pursue a shooting guard, preferably someone that's a swingman who can play both shooting guard and small forward. The player should play shooting guard most of the time, but when McGrady goes out, he should be able to take over the small forward duties to give him some rest. That way, McGrady still has the advantage against the small forwards of the west and won't have to guard the more elite shooting guards such as Kobe Bryant, Jason Richardson, Manu Ginobli, or Ray Allen which would tire him out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Devon George would a good candidate. But I don't know his availabiltiy</div> Devean George is hardly starting lineup material. As of now, I'd take all of the shooting guards we have right now over him. After looking through the free agents this year, some players that come to mind that fit the player I described above are- Kerry Kittles (too old though), Sprewell (we don't have enough money to offer him), or DerrMarr Johnson (not sure about him as starting guard though)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Devean George is hardly starting lineup material. As of now, I'd take all of the shooting guards we have right now over him. After looking through the free agents this year, some players that come to mind that fit the player I described above are- Kerry Kittles (too old though), Sprewell (we don't have enough money to offer him), or DerrMarr Johnson (not sure about him as starting guard though)</div> Hardly starting lineup material? Didn't he start on a team that won 3 championships? Not only that, he did quite an effective job too. If you'd take David Wesley over a younger, stronger, more athletic Devin George, then.................... what can I say
^^^Actually George was comin off the bench during the laker championships....but the thing about whether TMac should play sg or sf doesn't really matter, because even if he was listed at SG it doesn't mean we couldn't match him up with the oppossing teams SF on Defense.......but I would like to see the rockets get a swingman that can play both the 2 and 3....I think this is more important than the PG problem.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't he start on a team that won 3 championships? Not only that, he did quite an effective job too. If you'd take David Wesley over a younger, stronger, more athletic Devin George, then.................... what can I say </div> I'm no Lakers expert, but I don't think he started. Wasn't that Rick Fox's job to start at small forward? Besides, even if George did start, he barely contributed to that Lakers dynasty. During the course of the dynasty, Devean George averaged 3.2, 3.1, and 7.1 points per game. Um, yeah I actually would take David Wesley currently over Devean George for the starting shooting guard duties.
^^^me to.....George was a scrub player for the most part....I'd take Wesley everday of the week over George.
LOL. You guys are halarious! First Damon Stoudamire, now I guess Devin George is a total scrub. But then everybody turns around and acts like "Eric Watson" is the perfect player for the Rockets. Somebody I've never seen hit a 3 in his life Back to George. He did start for Rick Fox for a period of time, including the playoffs. He's a pretty good defender, athletic, pretty good 3pt shooter, and great role player that will do the intangables. Wesley is a midget at SG, and despite his good D, isn't athletic, can't dribble, and can't finish a fast break. If the Lakers can win a ring with George, why couldn't we. I know one thing, we'll NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP with David Wesley at SG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Back to George. He did start for Rick Fox for a period of time, including the playoffs. He's a pretty good defender, athletic, pretty good 3pt shooter, and great role player that will do the intangables. Wesley is a midget at SG, and despite his good D, isn't athletic, can't dribble, and can't finish a fast break. If the Lakers can win a ring with George, why couldn't we. I know one thing, we'll NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP with David Wesley at SG.</div> Your description of him basically fits every other shooting guard in the league. Dermarr Johnson, the guy that I mentioned before does all those things and arguably even better. Their three point shooting is fairly similar, with George having a slight advantage over him. However, Johnson is a much more efficient scorer, logging almost the same amount of points as George in about five less minutes. Like, you said, he's athletic, hustles, and has the qualities of a good defender. Oh yeah, and he's about three years younger than George so he's got more potential. If you're comparing Wesley to George, who really needs athleticism? Wesley has veteran savyness and plays the game smart- deferring the ball to Yao who kicks it back out to him for easy three's when he's double teamed. Like you said, he's got great defense and is one of the best hustlers on the team. And since you care about three point shooting so much, Wesley shoots it better than Devean George. And saying that if Lakers one championships with George, we should get him too, thats just plain weak. Its almost like saying that if San Antonio won a championship with Devin Brown, we should get him too. Their roles on their teams are miniscle, meaning they barely contributed to the rings.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Your description of him basically fits every other shooting guard in the league. Dermarr Johnson, the guy that I mentioned before does all those things and arguably even better. Their three point shooting is fairly similar, with George having a slight advantage over him. However, Johnson is a much more efficient scorer, logging almost the same amount of points as George in about five less minutes. Like, you said, he's athletic, hustles, and has the qualities of a good defender. Oh yeah, and he's about three years younger than George so he's got more potential. If you're comparing Wesley to George, who really needs athleticism? Wesley has veteran savyness and plays the game smart- deferring the ball to Yao who kicks it back out to him for easy three's when he's double teamed. Like you said, he's got great defense and is one of the best hustlers on the team. And since you care about three point shooting so much, Wesley shoots it better than Devean George. And saying that if Lakers one championships with George, we should get him too, thats just plain weak. Its almost like saying that if San Antonio won a championship with Devin Brown, we should get him too. Their roles on their teams are miniscle, meaning they barely contributed to the rings.</div> How many playoff games has Dermarr Johnson been in? How many crucial situations has Dermarr Johnson played well in? How many times did Wesley get his shot swatted in the stance in a fast break situation? Where was Wesley's defense when Stackhouse KILLED him in the playoffs? (the whole series) The fact that Devon George won championsip isn't weak, it's called EXPERIENCE. Something Dermarr Johnson has NONE of, and Wesley has BARELY any in the playoffs. It's a very simple point. You mention one guy (Dermarr Johnson) who has similar game but has NEVER been in a crucial situation, and Wesley, a streaky shooter with a size disadvantage EVERY NIGHT he steps on the court. Despite having Kobe and Shaq, I know you can recall Devon George having some big games in the Lakers championship run. Since our team is built similar, his role in Houston wouldn't change much. He does the little things like rebound, hustle and play good D, and more importantly doesn't need the ball to be effective. Also, his size isn't going to be our weakness. I don't understand, you don't like Damon Stoudamire, Finley's too old, George sucks, but you're answer is Dermarr Johnson? A young guy with absolutley NO EXPERIENCE in the playoffs. ???
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">How many playoff games has Dermarr Johnson been in? How many crucial situations has Dermarr Johnson played well in? How many times did Wesley get his shot swatted in the stance in a fast break situation? Where was Wesley's defense when Stackhouse KILLED him in the playoffs? (the whole series)</div> Dermarr Johnson has been in four playoff games, four more than Devean George had when Lakers won their first championship in his rookie year. At this point in his career, Johnson has been used sparingly, pretty much like Devean George has been used for his entire career. However, the difference is that Johnson is effective- his field goal percentage is over .500 which is pretty good for a guard in the playoffs while during the season, he's a .499 percent player. I don't watch as many Houston games so I wouldn't know how many times his shot has been swatted during the season, but I do remember that he was never blocked on during a fast break situation in the playoffs. Stackhouse didn't kill Wesley in the playoffs, instead Wesley kept him in check. Jerry had five games above ten point in the playoffs. He shot .308, .333, .300, .461, and .563. The whole series? I'm sure shooting terribly in the first three games counts as Stackhouse killing him in the entire series. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact that Devon George won championsip isn't weak, it's called EXPERIENCE. Something Dermarr Johnson has NONE of, and Wesley has BARELY any in the playoffs. It's a very simple point. You mention one guy (Dermarr Johnson) who has similar game but has NEVER been in a crucial situation, and Wesley, a streaky shooter with a size disadvantage EVERY NIGHT he steps on the court. Despite having Kobe and Shaq, I know you can recall Devon George having some big games in the Lakers championship run. Since our team is built similar, his role in Houston wouldn't change much. He does the little things like rebound, hustle and play good D, and more importantly doesn't need the ball to be effective. Also, his size isn't going to be our weakness.</div> Again, the first year the Lakers won the championship, George was in his rookie season. He had no playoff experience whatsoever as compared to Dermarr Johnson who has played four games so far. When it comes to some players, size just doesn't matter. Take a look at Earl Boykins or Allen Iverson (who played shooting guard almost every season). Having some big games in the playoffs can be said of many players. David Wesley had two in the playoffs against Dallas too. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't understand, you don't like Damon Stoudamire, Finley's too old, George sucks, but you're answer is Dermarr Johnson? A young guy with absolutley NO EXPERIENCE in the playoffs. ??? </div> I've said in the other thread that I'd be indifferent to signing Finley. Sure he's weak on defense but he brings the third option that our team needs. I've said so much on Mighty Mouse that you probably already know why I don't like him so I won't comment on that any further. George is a scrub. And, sigh, once again, Dermarr Johnson does have playoff experience.
I don't mind George, necause I also recall some big games in the playoffs from him. My concern is he is the most streakiest shooter of everyone we have mentioned. Wesley can be streaky, but George is just plain shocking. He is so inconsistent that I would dare place a bet on him if my life depended on it. We need consistent players. I like Dermarr, and i thnk he could fit in to our situation, but he is not a proven player. Finley is, and he would be a great spark off the bench. If we want a title in the next two years, we should take him and Damon, because it is possible for us to get them. If the Rockets would go for much long term success, then we haave to take gambles on people like Dermarr. Its a matter of how safe we wanna play our offseason.
Devon George was just my "cheap" choice. He would come cheap, but he's definitley not my first. Derek Anderson would be nice. He's better than Finley at this point, and he's more proven than Dermarr Johnson. Plus Derek Anderson has proven himself in the playoffs. I say it's no brainer.
The Rockets need either a SG or a SF, either way it will be fine. Tmac is extremely versatile, he's a 6'9 guy that has the handles of guys who are 4-5 inches shorter than him, and he has great length. He was a SF in Toronto, a SG in Orlando, and a SF/SG in Houston, so he obviously has no problem at either swing position. While Wesley is a nice player, the Rockets will still be very undersized at the guard positions with him playing the 2. He can guard 1's with Sura guarding the SG's, but if he's on with Mike James or Head, the backcourt will be very small. I don't like the idea of Damon Stoudamire coming in because it that makes the backcourt even smaller than it already is. The best options would be a big guard, someone like Jiri Welsch who can play the 1/2/3, a real SG, or a starting caliber SF. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kerry Kittles (too old though), Sprewell (we don't have enough money to offer him), or DerrMarr Johnson (not sure about him as starting guard though)</div> Kittles is actually a perfect candidate to play the SG position, and he can even play as a backup PG if needed. I don't know why you say he's too old, Kittles just turned 31 years old last month. Sprewell is 35 years old, and Finley is 32 years old, he's the yougest of the bunch. These are the things Kittles brings to the table: Good and consistent 3PT shooting Length and defense at the SG spot Effective ball handling, and ability to bring the ball up against pressure Fairly good passing from the SG spot I think Kittles is actually a perfect candidate for the Rockets team. I have no clue as to what his plans are right now, but I haven't heard much about him lately.
