Summer League Game (Warriors vs. Celtics) Video

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    This cool dude named DanLanghiOwnsAll over at another board hooked me up with this one.

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=185X2AMA

    Enjoy. (note: this site link shouldn't expire or go bad after x number of downloads or after certain number of days pass)
     
  2. jzblaze

    jzblaze JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">This cool dude named DanLanghiOwnsAll over at another board hooked me up with this one.

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=185X2AMA

    Enjoy. (note: this site link shouldn't expire or go bad after x number of downloads or after certain number of days pass)</div>

    thanks Custodian. Man Diogu looked like crap against Al Jefferson. He needs to quicken that release but his main weakness is still his lack of athleticism. I hope he doesn't end up like the past Warrior mistakes. Biedrins needs to develop some post moves too, Al Jeff looks pretty good. We could have had those two young players on the Celts, it'll be interesting to see how those for players pan out. But I'm not too optimistic on Diogu, I have a bad feeling we're gonna regret not taking Green, especially when he fell to us so easily. Anyone else watch this game? Thanks again.
     
  3. hipokrat_x(LV)

    hipokrat_x(LV) JBB JustBBall Member

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    Wow! Thx CR2!
    Is this the only video avaivable from summerleague?
     
  4. openglfx

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jzblaze:</div><div class="quote_post">thanks Custodian. Man Diogu looked like crap against Al Jefferson. He needs to quicken that release but his main weakness is still his lack of athleticism. I hope he doesn't end up like the past Warrior mistakes. Biedrins needs to develop some post moves too, Al Jeff looks pretty good. We could have had those two young players on the Celts, it'll be interesting to see how those for players pan out. But I'm not too optimistic on Diogu, I have a bad feeling we're gonna regret not taking Green, especially when he fell to us so easily. Anyone else watch this game? Thanks again.</div>

    Obviously this is only one game for Diogu, maybe if we can get our hands on the 37 point outburst on the final summer league game, you may think differently. As for Biedrins, I think he needs more exp., and playing time.
     
  5. Warriorfansnc93

    Warriorfansnc93 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Wow. Thanks CR2! You need to give your hook up major props from us. It feels so good to be able to see these games. Maybe we can stick these games up in the Lounge and archive them or something. Even regular season games or highlights would be nice. Speaking of highlights how about those few highlight dunks by Tony Allen and Gerald Green. Green is a kid we could have drafted over Diogu since he slipped to us. When I saw he slipped I was thinking "please pick Green" but when they said Diogu I was ok with the pick.
     
  6. hipokrat_x(LV)

    hipokrat_x(LV) JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post"> Maybe we can stick these games up in the Lounge and archive them or something. Even regular season games or highlights would be nice.</div>

    You can get regular season games at Davka
     
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    upsidedownside7 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Diogu certainly struggled. He had his moments where he overpowered Celtic players and got to the line but all in all, not a good outing. You can't put all the blame on him since he rarely got the ball where he wanted and basically that SL team sucked. It's only a SL game so to claim Diogu is a bad pick is ridiculous at this point. Diogu will come in handy during the season on the block. He's got some nice moves.

    Monta looked nice.

    Biedrins looked awesome. Had some nice post moves and it's obvious he's put on 20 lbs of muscle.

    That's it.
     
  8. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    No problemo, more on the way hopefully. I agree with upsidedownside, the entry passes to Diogu were horrible. What is up with that one play where the guard gave it to Biedrins like they expected him to bring the ball up the court? They ended up throwing it away, but Biedrins looked pretty decent handling the ball until he had nobody coming out to pass to.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting hipokrat_x(LV):</div><div class="quote_post">You can get regular season games at Davka</div>
    Cool! Thanks!
     
  10. jzblaze

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    Diogu certainly struggled. He had his moments where he overpowered Celtic players and got to the line but all in all, not a good outing. You can't put all the blame on him since he rarely got the ball where he wanted and basically that SL team sucked. It's only a SL game so to claim Diogu is a bad pick is ridiculous at this point. Diogu will come in handy during the season on the block. He's got some nice moves.

    I'm not blaming him for anything. I'm just saying that he looked like a lil kid against Al Jeff, getting his shot blocked in that manner. He scored on Coppenwrath and broken plays. But one-on-one against good comp he wasn't very good at all. How is he gonna far against the pf's of the west. But yeah it's way early, I'm just saying I have that fear. I'm wondering who he got that 37 on. I could see Monty being irrated by Monta
     
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    I was not insinuating at all that Diogu was a bad pick. I just meant that if Green becomes a Tracy McGrady in 3-5 years I will be disappointed because we could have drafted him since he slipped to us. Now for "Warriorfansnc93's post game wrap up"...

    Monta Ellis could apsolutely take it to the whole at ease. He did it almost everytime, yet he still showed he had 3pt range. Is this kid going to be an Allen Iverson type player in 3-5 years? He did have some questionable shots, but I think that will come with time. Pretty soon I think those will fall like Iverson's normally do. Biedrens probably has the best hands I have ever seen in my life. Not only in this summer league game did he catch some "uncatchable" passes but he handled some tough passes cutting to the hoop. He is the meaning of "if it touches your hands, you better catch it". Unbelievable. He also tried dunking it over every body. Very nice to see him so aggressive. I personally could not tell he had gained 20lbs because I thought last year he looked pretty wirey. The TV just does not make them look too muscular. He blocked a few shots and had some nice hooks and up and under moves besides the dunks. Nice game. Diogu got blocked so many times. That is going to be disappointing if he does that in the regular season. You can definately see why we picked him though. He is a tough body down low. Jawad Williams missed some shots really badly but almost made up for it with some nice follow ups and tip ins. I hope we can keep him aboard for a year or so to see how he develops. He looks like a big kid.
     
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    Continuing my wrap up but not talking about our players....

    Al Jefferson is freaking huge! He made our players look small. [​IMG] Gomes looked good. He was a nice pick up for the Celts. And oh man, those few dunks in the last part of the game were just demoralizing. First Tony Allen over Diogu was just crazy! He looked like Vince Carter. Then the next possession the Green double pump reverse alley oop with his head hitting the rim? Crazy. There were 2 more dunks by those guys one was a Tony allen rim shaker that shook the whole backboard and hoop supports. Then the iso on Green where he faked like he was going to use the pick. Oh man, that kid can get up in a hurry. It almost looked weak because the ball just went through the rim he was so high up. Our Warriors tried to respond with a Diogu and a couple of Williams dunks but they looked weak, especially after those few the Celts put on. It was like a dunk contest. Crazy. My eye is going to be on those guys this season. I dont think Jefferson will be great, but he sure is a big body. I really want to see how Allen and Green turn out. Amazing athletes...
     
  13. Kwan1031

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    Thank you very much for the file!

    Yeah, Diogu struggled in that game. Just based on that game, Diogu looked pretty good against lesser pfs, but against Jefferson or Perkins, he couldn't push them away and couldn't shoot over them. And, it is guys like Jefferson or Perkins that he has to handle day in and day out. If he wants to be Brand ver. 2, he needs to overcome the size and athlathism differences, or he will be Rose ver. 2. He has pretty good rebounding skill, and he probably can average 1+ block per game. While he is not going to make alley hoop from Davis, he wasn't slow and can go up fast enough.

    My major concern is how effective Diogu can be in this club. Clearly, we will throw better entry passes than we saw in the video. But, Davis will dictate the ball most of times, and in order for Diogu to maximize his potential, he does need a ball in the post and be isolated for some time, which won't happen too much in near future. Of course, Diogu can go out and shoot from outside, but that's where Murphy can do better job. Also, judging from his athlathism, his trasition offense won't be much better than Murphy's, if any. That's where I wanted to see how Taft can run, catch the ball and dunk the ball, but since he was injured...

    If Ellis heard better advises, I think he could have been a lottory pick in a year or two (although I don't complain). Sure, he never met a shot he didn't like, and has lesser clue on running the offense than Iverson in his rookie year. But, boy. He can really slash and penetrate. There is no question that he is a ball hog, at least he goes inside and create something inside. He can very well be a spark plug for day one. Of course, if he want to take next step, he gotta do something about his ball hogging mentality though.

    Biedrins looks much much better. Just a year or two later, I wonder what kind of player he can be.

    While, Green didn't do much, he showed flash of brilliance. Sure, that dunk was impressive, but I was quite impressed to see how he can blow smaller opponent in dribble. Why did he last till 18th?
     
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    Your right, Diogu isn't that athletic. He is an upgrade from Murphy in that department. Diogu is much more co-ordinated and has better motor skills. The biggest benefit he brings us is that when he faces bigger guys, Diogu will still initiate contact and get to the line. Murphy will just get his shot blocked. I've talked to guys who went to the SL game and they said Diogu wasn't nearly as intense as the first game. Supposedly he dominated a good stretch of the Blazers game. They also said he was completely lost on the floor and didn't know where to be. Elie was screaming his lungs out at Ike the entire time. Give him some time and I'm pretty sure he'll be more consistent.

    As far as Taft goes I think he'll be handy to switch between the 4 and 5. In our situation where he can work with Turner & Elie, he could be real good for us.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">Your right, Diogu isn't that athletic. He is an upgrade from Murphy in that department. Diogu is much more co-ordinated and has better motor skills. The biggest benefit he brings us is that when he faces bigger guys, Diogu will still initiate contact and get to the line. Murphy will just get his shot blocked. I've talked to guys who went to the SL game and they said Diogu wasn't nearly as intense as the first game. Supposedly he dominated a good stretch of the Blazers game. They also said he was completely lost on the floor and didn't know where to be. Elie was screaming his lungs out at Ike the entire time. Give him some time and I'm pretty sure he'll be more consistent.

    As far as Taft goes I think he'll be handy to switch between the 4 and 5. In our situation where he can work with Turner & Elie, he could be real good for us.</div>

    But isn't Diogu realistically only about 6'7". Murph is a good 4 inches taller than that. If Murph comes back to the form he was in during his Sophmore season, he's gonna be tough. I hope he regains some hops and consistency. I think Murph is tougher than we all think he is. Murph can finish inside, we've seen him do it, just that last season.. he had no lift. That's probalby one of the reasons why he got blocked so much. The guy won't let up though. I see Diogu as more of a companion to Murph than a replacement.
     
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    Yeah speaking of all our young guys it shows they are not ready to gain an instant starting spot on the team before the season starts but they could by mid season. Biedrens looks better and I would love to see how he can do starting by midseason. Diogu will provide some low post scoring when we need it so he should see some spot time and inconsistent minutes until he shows he can be a consistent player. Ellis is going to be a real spark plug off the bench like that guy from Sac. The starting 5 will be the same that ended the season last year
    Davis
    Richardson
    Dunleavy
    Murphy
    Foyle
    But if Jrich and/or Dunleavy struggle defensively and can not outscore their man, look for Pietrus to fill in. I doubt he will start unless one of those guys get injured or traded (Dunleavy). As said before Diogu will help out Murphy and Foyle if we need low post scoring. I just hope Taft can show some solid defense and low post scoring. If he does he and Biedrens are really going to be battling for the starting center position....
     
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    this download takes forever
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Confidence_5:</div><div class="quote_post">this download takes forever</div>

    I started it before I left to go grocery shopping. By the time I got home it was done. Then my wife kicked my ass cause I was watching the game instead of helping her put away the groceries and cleaning up. [​IMG]
     
  19. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    hehe no problemo, Kwan. I can tell you were really disappointed earlier in not being able to get the file because of the links that expire after a period of time or after a certain number of downloads.

    WFSNC93, I can definitely relate to women not understanding that this is the Warriors, here! Everything else goes on hold.

    Upsidedownside7 and openglfx, Diogu's pretty slow, but we'll see. The guy is also pretty strong and quick considering the weight he's dragging around. They listed him at something like 6'7 or 6'6 without shoes, but at 6'8 with shoes, and he's probably heavier than 250 lbs. Murphy is 245 and really 6'10" without shoes, but I think Diogu has the same standing reach, even though there's the 3-4 inch discrepancy between him and Murph. Coordination and strength will be Diogu's tools. He's pretty powerful and agile when he moves, just not explosively quick or the type to show bursts of speed. This guy can knock a few bigger players down easy because of his mass and low center of gravity. Assistant Coach Turner was liking this guy because he's so physical.
     
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    He is like a baby shaq with the way he uses his body down low. I just wish he was a bit more explosive and dunking over people like Biedrens does...
     

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