Suns and Hawks close to JJ Sign-and-Trade

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by VinKanaddy, Jul 31, 2005.

  1. VinKanaddy

    VinKanaddy JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ESPN.com - Marc Stein is reporting that the Phoenix Suns and Atlanta Hawks are on the verge of completing a sign and trade with restricted free agent, Joe Johnson.

    The deal would send Johnson to Atlanta in exchange for Boris Diaw and two future first round picks.

    Johnson has agreed to sign a five-year/seventy million dollar contract with the Hawks</div>

    ESPN.com
     
  2. lessthanjake

    lessthanjake JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Noooo!!!! We Love You Boris!
     
  3. da pimp 1

    da pimp 1 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2005
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Is this Boris guy any good?
     
  4. Bobcats

    Bobcats JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    4,843
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting da pimp 1:</div><div class="quote_post">Is this Boris guy any good?</div>

    Well, his offensive game needs work, but Phoenix will like his defensive game. He's a 6-8 PG/SG. He's young too, only 23. The important part of this deal isn't him though, the 2 first round picks will probably be of more value since the Hawks will suck for a little while longer.
     
  5. mike18946

    mike18946 JBB

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2003
    Messages:
    11,111
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    the 5 million trade exception is actually far bigger than any player or pick the Suns get in this deal. That TE could get the Suns Finley and maybe a back-up PG.
     
  6. j0se

    j0se JBB Banned Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    978
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Not bad, Diaw is a great defender who can play 4 positions, he alot similar to Marion, but without the offense, decent set of outerrior passing skils, I always like Diaw, Phoneix has a good back up SF for Marion now, and this is probably Diaw's chance to final become an important role player, IF he stays consistant.

    Yeh Suns won't probably win 60 games, but they're now an all around club with some perimeter defenders, and a great post defender in Kurt Thomas.


    Nash/Barbosa
    Bell/Jackson
    Marion/Diaw
    Amare/Tischer?
    Kurt Thomas/Hunter


    the team is good, you guys just need more front court reserve guys.
     
  7. bulldawg03

    bulldawg03 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2004
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    2 first rounders? i dont know if i like it from the hawks side even though we are gettin joe johnson. we should keep those 2 first rounders and give something else.
     
  8. VinKanaddy

    VinKanaddy JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    All I remember of Boris Diaw is him getting posterized by Bosh and Carter.
     
  9. ASUFan22

    ASUFan22 BBW Global Mod Team

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    We are getting Scott Padgett also.
     
  10. jbbDowntown

    jbbDowntown JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2004
    Messages:
    287
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I think this lineup is gonna be too slowtempo for the Suns. Yeah they got better defensively, but they won't be as exiciting, and they won't win as many games. I honestly think a lot of teams are less scared of the Suns, especially without JJ.
     
  11. lessthanjake

    lessthanjake JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Is this Boris guy any good?</div>

    a lot of people say he has potential to be a top5 defensive player.

    anyway, no way we'd do this. although we have a pick from boston that we could give PHO next year. then we could keep OUR pick and get mardy collins! YAY [​IMG]
     
  12. Bobcats

    Bobcats JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    4,843
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bulldawg03:</div><div class="quote_post">2 first rounders? i dont know if i like it from the hawks side even though we are gettin joe johnson. we should keep those 2 first rounders and give something else.</div>

    Well, I just found out that the first round picks are lottery protected, so thats good news for Hawks fans.
     
  13. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2005
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Excellent, now if only the Mark Cuban makes sure Finley doesn't go to the Suns...

    I like this trade alot for Phoenix (even though i desperately want the Warriors to win the pacific) Boris is a decent young player add the two picks and a 5 mil TE and the Suns have 3 more future players of their choice. If Phoenix can get Finley then i believe they are a better team than last year.

    Atlanta gave up alot and will soon realize that they cant have swingmen playing every position. They better get a legit C fast, a non-tweener PF would help too. Plus they give up a promising young player and two picks and absorb a nice fat contract. In my opinion they would have been better off trying to get several good players via free agency (Flip Murray, Antonio Daniels, Stromile Swift, etc) than one very good player via trade.
     
  14. hungi1115

    hungi1115 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    whoa! this is gonna be a grand theft auto for the suns. jj is not worth 2 first round picks from a lottery team.
     
  15. ASUFan22

    ASUFan22 BBW Global Mod Team

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Excellent, now if only the Mark Cuban makes sure Finley doesn't go to the Suns...

    I like this trade alot for Phoenix (even though i desperately want the Warriors to win the pacific) Boris is a decent young player add the two picks and a 5 mil TE and the Suns have 3 more future players of their choice. If Phoenix can get Finley then i believe they are a better team than last year.

    Atlanta gave up alot and will soon realize that they cant have swingmen playing every position. They better get a legit C fast, a non-tweener PF would help too. Plus they give up a promising young player and two picks and absorb a nice fat contract. In my opinion they would have been better off trying to get several good players via free agency (Flip Murray, Antonio Daniels, Stromile Swift, etc) than one very good player via trade.</div>

    Your Warriors will finish 3rd. The only thing that would happen if they don't sign Finley would be that your Rockets have a better chance. [​IMG] T-Mac is awesome.
     
  16. bulldawg03

    bulldawg03 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2004
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting hungi1115:</div><div class="quote_post">whoa! this is gonna be a grand theft auto for the suns. jj is not worth 2 first round picks from a lottery team.</div>

    the picks are lottery protected so atl gets to keep the picks if we are in the lottery.
     
  17. Bobcats

    Bobcats JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    4,843
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting hungi1115:</div><div class="quote_post">whoa! this is gonna be a grand theft auto for the suns. jj is not worth 2 first round picks from a lottery team.</div>

    The picks are lottery protected. It looks like Atlanta got the better end of this deal, not the Suns.
     
  18. ASUFan22

    ASUFan22 BBW Global Mod Team

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Yes, but it's better than just losing JJ...
     
  19. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2005
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">Your Warriors will finish 3rd. The only thing that would happen if they don't sign Finley would be that your Rockets have a better chance. [​IMG] T-Mac is awesome.</div>

    I'm down with that.
     
  20. mcvocal

    mcvocal JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2005
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    i dont think that trading jj will help us much in achievieng the ultimate goal of winning the championship.. looks like sarver doesnt care much about the winning...

    although i must say that paying that much money to jj was a bit of a stretch. he shoud be content with 10 milions a year and let that be it. JJ could also show some apreciation in suns for keeping faith in him when he wasnt so productive in his first seasons as he is now....
     

Share This Page