Now that we have Brown here, let?s predict the starting lineup for the Knicks. He loves to play veterans and experienced players who play defense so it will probably look much different from last year?s lineup. I think it will look something like this: <u>05-06 Starting Lineup:</u> PG: Stephon Marbury SG: Quentin Richardson SF: Jerome Williams PF: Malik Rose C: Jerome James Assuming our roster looks like this on opening night, that?s how I think our lineup will look like. All of our offensive firepower will come off the bench and from the backcourt when starting. Marbury and Richardson aren?t great defenders and hopefully Brown can make them at least decent, so that?s why JYD and Rose who are active defenders will be excellent helpers and Jerome James will block shots from penetrating players. Foul trouble is his biggest issue, but hopefully Frye can make up for the rest of the minutes and become a good shot-blocker. Any other ideas?
I think the only people who you can consider locks to be on that lineup are Quentin Richardson and Channing Frye, everyone else is likely to be considered for trade talk and can be replaced.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Why not keep Crawford at SG and Richardson at SF and has Jerome Williams come off the bench?</div> Cause than your lineup sucks defensively.
I see Jerome James starting over Channing Frye because he's an experienced vet. It can be the other way around depending on who ever is more impressive in training camp, though.
Question: Why JYD over Ariza at the SF spot? Is it because he's a vet and experienced like you said or what? LB does like playing his vets, but he won't put a matchup like this on the floor. When he took over the Pistons he put Prince in the SF spot over the likes of Ham and Williamsom, Ham being the "JYD" in this situation. When you're facing Wade, Carter, Pierce, LeBron, and co. in the East, doesn't it seem kind of foolish starting JYD over Ariza? I mean Williams is a good defender, but he's not a good on ball, man-to-man defender like Ariza to guard these players. He's the best defender out of Marbury, Q and himself, so I assume that he's the one that you picture to guard these players.
J, your lineup has no low post scoring. A front court of career backups is not going to work. Do not be surprised if Maurice Taylor is starting at the 4 position. The Knicks will need someone who can score in the low post. I don't feel Sweetney is ready for that role, so there has to be someone who can force the defense to pay attention to them on the block, otherwise the perimeter players won't have a chance. LB will have to whip Taylor into shape defensively, just enough to make him give some effort at that end. With some defensive effort from the guy, he can be a productive player.
I wouldn't like Jerome Williams starting at the three because a lineup like this would look much better. PG: Stephon Marbury SG: Quentin Richardson SF: Trevor Ariza PF: Mike Sweetney C: Jerome James Larry Brown this year should experience with the young players for a little bit early in the season. If he likes what he sees in Sweetney, the Knicks could have their power forward for the next couple years. LB will test out Ariza and Sweetney early in the season, and if they don't work out the way he planed he'll go back to Rose and Williams.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG: Stephon Marbury SG: Quentin Richardson SF: Trevor Ariza PF: Mike Sweetney C: Jerome James</div> I agreed with this lineup I think Brown will test Arzia's defensive Skills I hope he makes a pure impression because I for one love Ariza's playing skills.He need'sto work more on his jumper.But in the other areas he is a good player and can become a defensive threat in the future for us.
I see our lineup like this: PG: Stephon Marbury SG: Jamal Crawford SF: Quentin Richardson PF: Mike Sweetney C: Jerome James I would love to see Ariza start but LB probably won't cause he is still unproven on offense. LB likes Crawford so I don't see him not cracking the starting 5. That leaves the SF spot, and it would come down to whether or not TT is still on the team cause he may get the start over Q Rich, but I would put Q there as the starter. I just wish we had a better Center to start than Jerome.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Waneko:</div><div class="quote_post">Do not be surprised if Maurice Taylor is starting at the 4 position. The Knicks will need someone who can score in the low post. I don't feel Sweetney is ready for that role, so there has to be someone who can force the defense to pay attention to them on the block, otherwise the perimeter players won't have a chance. LB will have to whip Taylor into shape defensively, just enough to make him give some effort at that end. With some defensive effort from the guy, he can be a productive player.</div> I would put Mo in front; if only he knew how to rebound. Throughout his career he's averaged around 8.8 r/48min while Sweetney and JYD have averaged 13.8 and 14.1 respectively. Jerome James can't rebound at all, and we need to compensate. Seeing that LB will experiment with moving Marbury to the off-guard, mine would be: C: Jerome James PF: Jerome Williams SF: Trevor Ariza SG: Stephon Marbury PG: Jamal Crawford 6m: Quentin Richardson James starts because we don't have anyone else. He's a big body, and he'll take up some space. He can block shots here and there. Frye will come in and provide some quality minutes at the 5 spot. JYD starts over Sweetney because he can run the floor. Hopefully the team can initiate some fastbreak points early on in the game to get them started. Sweetney will come in late in the 1st and play 20-30 minutes, while JYD and Mo will split the rest in between (depending on if we need team defense and hustle or scoring). Ariza starts for his perimeter D. He can also run the floor and get some transition baskets. Tim Thomas will back him up. Marbury starts at the 2, Crawford starts at the 1. We'll see if he can distribute the ball better than Marbury. Q will be a pseudo 6th man, as he'll probably get as many minutes as Crawford and Marbury. Nate or Snow/Ollie/whoever we sign will back up the point. Q will back up the 2 spot, and him and JYD will both spend time covering the 3 when Tim and Ariza are tired. If only we didn't sign Jerome James. I like Q, but I would've rather traded KT for a veteran center with an expiring contract. (I would've liked Nazr to be back, but that would've been unlikely since the Spurs are looking to dump Nesterovic and his fat contract). I'd then use the MLE on a solid PG like Antonio Daniels. We would've had a starting lineup like this: C: Nazr Mohammed PF: Jerome Williams SF: Trevor Ariza SG: Stephon Marbury PG: Antonio Daniels 6m: Jamal Crawford
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If only we didn't sign Jerome James. I like Q, but I would've rather traded KT for a veteran center with an expiring contract. (I would've liked Nazr to be back, but that would've been unlikely since the Spurs are looking to dump Nesterovic and his fat contract). I'd then use the MLE on a solid PG like Antonio Daniels. We would've had a starting lineup like this: C: Nazr Mohammed PF: Jerome Williams SF: Trevor Ariza SG: Stephon Marbury PG: Antonio Daniels 6m: Jamal Crawford</div>I agree, I like that too, but I think there's no way it could be possible, sounds like a fantasy to me. Honesly, I believe the only way out of this Marbury Crawford situation is to trade one of them. Isiah wouldn't trade for anyone to play guard in front of Marbury or Crawford, he would think it's a waste of money. That's not how he roll.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">PG- Stephon Marbury SG- QRich SF- Ariza PF- Malik C- Jerome James</div> No chance. Malik won't start at the 4. Ariza wouldn't start in his second year, Larry probably doesn't consider Ariza a talent similar to the one he had in Prince. Richardson would start at 3, Crawford the 1, and Marbury the 2. Sweetney or JYD would start at the 4. Starting 5 (projected by me as of 8/6/05): 1 - Crawford 2 - Marbury 3 - Richardson 4 - Sweetney/Williams 5 - James
^ Defensive nightmare for the Knicks at the 1 2 and 3. I don't care how good LB is good at making players a notch better at defense, but all 3 of those players are horrible at D. Considering that LB is a defensive minded coach and preaches defense, that makes no sense. Atleast, that could be possible at the end of the year, but not at the start.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">^ Defensive nightmare for the Knicks at the 1 2 and 3. I don't care how good LB is good at making players a notch better at defense, but all 3 of those players are horrible at D. Considering that LB is a defensive minded coach and preaches defense, that makes no sense. Atleast, that could be possible at the end of the year, but not at the start.</div> What did you think of Chauncey defensively before Larry stepped into Detroit?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">What did you think of Chauncey defensively before Larry stepped into Detroit?</div> Average defender in Minny. Better than all of those 3 combined.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Average defender in Minny. Better than all of those 3.</div> I thought he was below average, I really did. He made him into a very good defender. That would likely mean he could take players who are slightly worse defensively than Billups was in Minnesota and make them solid-good.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">I thought he was below average, I really did. He made him into a very good defender. That would likely mean he could take players who are slightly worse defensively than Billups was in Minnesota and make them solid-good.</div> Not really, he was always a solid, good defensive player and was getting better each year. LB helped him turn him into one of the best defensive PG's in the league. You can't say the same about the other 3 players because they aren't relatively close to the level as Billups, defensively, Pre-LB. Right now all of these players are awful, level two below average defenders. When LB took on Billups, he already was an average defender (as previously mentioned). Honestly, I can't really see any of these players being average defenders. It's possible that they can become just below average instead of awful, but to start all of them at the beginning of the season under LB is a season nightmare in the making.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Not really, he was always a solid, good defensive player and was getting better each year. </div> So first he was average, now good? I thought he was average? I'm confused, Banks. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> LB helped him turn him into one of the best defensive PG's in the league. You can't say the same about the other 3 players because they aren't relatively close to the level as Billups, defensively, Pre-LB. Right now all of these players are awful, level two below average defenders. When LB took on Billups, he already was an average defender (as previously mentioned). Honestly, I can't really see any of these players being average defenders. It's possible that they can become just below average instead of awful, but to start all of them at the beginning of the season under LB is a season nightmare in the making.</div> Ok, he turned (average) Billups into NBA-defensive 2nd team quality defender. That means he can't make raw Crawford into an average-solid defender? What about the quick Marbury? He can't turn out to be a solid defender with Brown's help? The same question applies to Richardson. Larry Brown is a defensive mastermind, he can mold them into defenders, just you wait and see. I can see JYD or Ariza starting, but I feel like Isiah will push for LB to get those guys to work and get them to play some tougher D. I guess I have more faith in LB than you.
