D Wade has shown that he should've been the #2 pick behind Lebron. All those GM's are probably kicking themselves for not picking him. Yes even Detroit. He would definately start over Rip at the 2 guard. What do you guys think.
No one new he would be such an impact. They though he would be good but not as good as carmelo, lebron etc but i bet now they wished they picked him
D-Wade has proved to everyone that he can play with the best of them. You cant really call Pistons stupid for not getting Wade..they still got to the nba finals twice. Also thank god they slept on him psshh cuz now he play for the Heat lol
I wouldn't say Denver and Toronto look dumb. They picked two very talented players in Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony who both look like they have all-star potential. Detroit, on the other hand, well they look dumb now but Darko is still young and if he gets the playing he might turn out. All the teams don't look dumb, but I can tell you they would pick Dwyane instead of the players that they did pick.
Wade may have started over hamilton but their was no need for them to draft another sg. The better move was to draft a young PF in Darko(rasheed wasn't their yet) He may have turned out to be a bust but had a ton of potential at the time. Bosh may not be better than Wade right now but he is close to Wades level. Why would the raptors draft wade when they had vince and rose at the time. Big men are much harder to find than guards.
Wade was actually projected to go lower because teams were scared of his 'tweener' status. Too short at 6'4 to play SG and not enough handles and court vision etc, to play PG... his talent was undeniable though, and the Heat saw that in them.
Ok first of all, it is way to early in all of these player's careers to judge who is better and what teams did well in the draft. Dwyane Wade could have a season ending injury tommorow playing in a pick up game or Chris Bosh could become the greatest player ever. It is way to early to tell. Second, all of these teams got good players. For some of these teams, drafting Wade would have looked very foolish at the time. Take the Raptors for example. They had Vince Carter so they had no need to draft another shooting guard. Saying that it was a horrible doesn't make much sense since their biggest need was a big man.
No doubt if this was the 2003 draft all over again and those teams all had a chance to take Wade, they would. However, I wouldn't say that Toronto and Denver look dumb. At the time, Carmelo was the obvious pick. He was a freshman that was a huge part in Syracuse winning the National title. LeBron and him were suppose to go 1-2 but then Darko came along...and yea. Carmelo has superstar potential, but he's not going to be as good as Wade. As for Toronto, Chris Bosh at the time was also the logical pick. He was a freshman big coming out of GT with tons of talent and potential, and many teams were trying to trade up to #4, so they can draft Bosh. I admit, watching him early this season, I didn't believe he was a "franchise player"; but after the VC trade, he carried a weak Raptor team and tore up opposistions. Amare, Bosh and Howard will be 3 of the top bigs for years to come, just like Wade and LeBron (and Arenas) will be 3 of the top swingmen. And talented bigs versatile and skilled like Bosh are hard to come by so I don't think the Raptors (even though management changed) feel dumb or look dumb.
You can make comments like this about any draft. But the thing that seperates the 2003 draft is that all those teams got solid players (not talking about Darko yet). In hindsight, a team might look dumb, but you can't criticize Denver or Toronto when Miami would have made the same decision in their position.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">D Wade has shown that he should've been the #2 pick behind Lebron. All those GM's are probably kicking themselves for not picking him. Yes even Detroit. He would definately start over Rip at the 2 guard. What do you guys think.</div> Yeah, Houston's really kicking themselves because they took Yao instead of Amare. I'm sure Golden State kicked themselves, because they took Joe Smith instead of Kevin Garnett. We could say something like that for EVERY draft, but at the time, Carmelo was a no doubt top 3 pick, and still has superstar potentiol. It's just safe to say Wade will probably be better. Also, Toronto needed a big man and Chris Bosh had Kevin Garnett/Tim Duncan all over him, and it's true. The only team in the top 5 that looks dumb now and then is Detroit.
i dont think houston really regretted taking yao instead of amare cause b4 yao, the rockets were nothing, then yao came and suddenly they were a playoff team and look where they are now...jeff van gundy has basically built the franchise around yao (yao is probably the only rocket that remains from the 2004-2005 roster)
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You cant really call Pistons stupid for not getting Wade..they still got to the nba finals twice.</div> I agree. That's all i got to say.
This is why Kobe has so many haters, fans boasting him up for no apparent reason and trying to make him look better than he already is, and this seems like the same thing is starting to be done with Wade. Wade is without question an amazing talent, and in a way can be considered a "steal" primarily because of the players that were drafted over him, but like mentioned it?s too early to tell, but for the time being this whole thing about making other teams look dumb for not drafting him is irrelevant and should be left disregard. Judging from what scouts seen in workouts and what everyone seen them do in college every team that didn?t draft Wade had a legitimate reason to. The way he looks he now he could arguably been the #1 pick, but is it really necessary to say other teams that overlooked him are dumb and let?s say that wasn?t the right term but to say they made is mistake is not really they?re fault? Like mentioned, Bosh, Anthony and so on are not scrubs and they?re holding their own in the NBA, Wade just turned out better it?s just that simple. Nobody but God knew how good Wade was going to turn out so early so you can?t really knock on team that?s didn?t draft him. And again, judging from what scouts seen in workouts and most importantly college every team that picked Darko, Anthony and Bosh over him had a legitimate reason to. Heck if the Heat had a higher pick they probably wouldn?t even draft Wade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">This is why Kobe has so many haters, fans boasting him up for no apparent reason and trying to make him look better than he already is, and this seems like the same thing is starting to be done with Wade. Wade is without question an amazing talent, and in a way can be considered a "steal" primarily because of the players that were drafted over him, but like mentioned it?s too early to tell, but for the time being this whole thing about making other teams look dumb for not drafting him is irrelevant and should be left disregard. Judging from what scouts seen in workouts and what everyone seen them do in college every team that didn?t draft Wade had a legitimate reason to. The way he looks he now he could arguably been the #1 pick, but is it really necessary to say other teams that overlooked him are dumb and let?s say that wasn?t the right term but to say they made is mistake is not really they?re fault? Like mentioned, Bosh, Anthony and so on are not scrubs and they?re holding their own in the NBA, Wade just turned out better it?s just that simple. Nobody but God knew how good Wade was going to turn out so early so you can?t really knock on team that?s didn?t draft him. And again, judging from what scouts seen in workouts and most importantly college every team that picked Darko, Anthony and Bosh over him had a legitimate reason to. Heck if the Heat had a higher pick they probably wouldn?t even draft Wade.</div> Iv'e never thought of Wade being as hated as Kobe. But if fans keep on hyping him like you said it might happen.
i agree, toronto wasnt looking for a PG, they were looking to add some depth to the line-up and bosh was a great pick to add to the company of vince carter at the time. i'd still pick king james over wade anyday.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheGreatK-Bob:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd really rather have wade than king james now</div> are you serious? i like wade and i think he is a great player, but you would rather have him than lebron? i wouldnt. i would take lebron over wade any day. after all, he is the next mj, and he is much younger.
Not at all. Carmelo while not as good as Wade was as good and more hyped as a college player. It doesn't make Denver and Toronto look dumb because they still got good players and players with All-Star potential. Wade was also predicted to be a future All-Star, same as Bosh and Carmelo. Carmelo had an off year last year, but he's a guy that playing 40 MPG can put up numbers like 24-26 PPG, 6 RPG, and about 3-4 APG. He's not going to be the All-Round player, or defender Wade is, but considering Wade came in the league as an undersized SG [he wasn't really undersized as he measured 6'4.75, and has a very long wingspan, but he was listed at 6'4 instead of 6'5] who couldn't play the point that well yet, it's fine. The Raptors also don't look dumb. They needed a PG, but Bosh is still a good player, and he can be just as valuable as Wade [even if he's not as talented] because he's a big man. Bosh can become a 20-10-3 player, and if he can improve defensively, he can have just as much impact. Remeber Wade is 1-2 years older than the other guys, so he has a little advantage on them, so no, they definately do not look dumb with the decisions they made. If they had done something like pick Araujo over Wade or pick guys who weren't supposed to go so high, then yes, but no one knew how each player would progress, all we knew is that they'd all be stars.
