Doug Christie is Waived

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With no trading partners in sight, the Orlando Magic will waive disgruntled guard Doug Christie in the next couple of days under the NBA's amnesty clause to free up a roster spot and avoid paying $8.2 million to the league in luxury taxes.

    Although the Magic declined to comment on the waiver, NBA sources in New York confirmed the upcoming transaction.

    Christie still must be paid the $8.2 million he is owed in the final year of his contract, but he will be allowed to re-sign with another team. Franchises exceeding the tax threshold ($61.7 million this season) must pay a dollar-for-dollar tax to the league.

    The amnesty waiver can be used only once by each team during the league's newly approved six-year collective bargaining agreement with the players.

    Without Christie on the roster, the Magic still will exceed the tax threshold by a few million dollars this season if, as expected, they sign another front-court player in the coming weeks.

    The waiving of Christie will put an end to his brief, bizarre stay with the Magic. Christie, 35, grudgingly came in a trade with the Sacramento Kings last season for Cuttino Mobley, but he never was happy and quickly alienated his teammates.

    With nagging bone spurs in his left ankle, he left the team without telling anyone shortly after he was taken out of the starting lineup.

    He played only 21 games for the Magic, averaging 5.7 points and 2.2 assists in 25.2 minutes per game.

    He then demanded another trade, saying he wanted to return to the West Coast.

    Christie has told those close to him that he also would like to play in Dallas. The Magic talked to the Mavericks -- and almost everyone else in the league -- about a possible trade in the past month, but nothing materialized.

    The Magic already have filled Christie's roster spot with free-agent point guard Keyon Dooling, who was at the RDV Sports-plex on Thursday after signing a three-year, $10 million contract Wednesday.

    "I don't know about other people, but coming here was a no-brainer for me," said Dooling, who played last season with the Miami Heat. "I want to be here and help this organization get back to where it was the first time Coach [Brian] Hill was here."</div>

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    So the Magic are letting Christie go for nothing? I don't understand this move, his expiring contract has value for teams, plus Christie can still start on most teams. The Magic basically traded Cuttino Mobley for air.
     
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    Well, we all know and we're used to the fact that the Magic management makes strange and irreproducible (?) moves but we knew that one way or the other DC is going to leave us.

    As it turns out now, the whole T-Mac trade doesn't look that good any more. At least Houston management was able to follow this trade with some good moves to further improve the team, we haven't done something like that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> Source

    So the Magic are letting Christie go for nothing? I don't understand this move, his expiring contract has value for teams, plus Christie can still start on most teams. The Magic basically traded Cuttino Mobley for air.</div>

    Let me explain: Twardzick
     
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    Good riddence Dougy finally hes gone! Why not atleast get a future draft pick for him at least something.
     
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    What was the point in trading Mobley for Christie if he didnt fit and they would waive him anyway. They should of tried and traded him.
     
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    Magic management is horrible. They just gave away Mobley. Christie is a little girl and he wants to go running back to his boyfriends. Bibby and Peja. He lost his starting job now to Bonzi. Dont know where he's going 2 end up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">What was the point in trading Mobley for Christie if he didnt fit and they would waive him anyway. They should of tried and traded him.</div>

    NbaBaller, do you have any idea about the Orlando Magic? Have you ever read any of the posts here regarding the DC for Mobley trade? Have you even read the article?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Magic talked to the Mavericks -- and almost everyone else in the league -- about a possible trade in the past month, but nothing materialized.</div>

    Don't just throw in one-liners, read as well. Otherwise you'll look really stupid.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Magic management is horrible. They just gave away Mobley. Christie is a little girl and he wants to go running back to his boyfriends. Bibby and Peja. He lost his starting job now to Bonzi. Dont know where he's going 2 end up.</div>

    He doesn't want to go back to his boyfriends Bibby and Peja, or do those two want to be traded to Dallas as well?
     
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    I think this was expected if we couldn't get anything for him. After the way he treated Orlando and with the injury problems he has had, nobody was interested in him. I'm glad he is gone because he was turning into a big distraction and we don't need someone like that on our team.
     
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    wow! this was a surprise. although doug christie wasnt really happy on the team, i would expect the magic to trade him for something, they couldve maybe gotton a second rounder for doug. but, now, they just loose him for nothing. plus, they still have to pay his contract. so basically, the magic just gave mobley to the kings.
     
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    We should have kept him and possibly throw Jameer in a trade, which would be like 10 million of salary right there, which is near the max contract and we would get plenty of takers. We really need to figure out who we want as our PG of the future, because Jameer and Francis together will not cut it. If we choose the superstar, then we need to trade Jameer ASAP while his stock is high. If we choose trading Francis, do that ASAP too, call the Celts up for Pierce.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phiLA:</div><div class="quote_post">wow! this was a surprise. although doug christie wasnt really happy on the team, i would expect the magic to trade him for something, they couldve maybe gotton a second rounder for doug. but, now, they just loose him for nothing. plus, they still have to pay his contract. so basically, the magic just gave mobley to the kings.</div>

    From the way I read this article, we are free from paying for Christies contract. We don't have to pay it at all.
     
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    Read the article man. Nobody wanted to trade for Christie. He didn't want to play here so forget him, he's too old anyway.
     
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    My dream is answered,but I wish we got a player for him like in a trade we still have Cato to trade though.
     
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    Doug is a soldier lol I am just curious because I cant remember but what laker did he fight with a few year back???Rick Fox?
     
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    i agree with everyone else in here and the world. our management sucks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">From the way I read this article, we are free from paying for Christies contract. We don't have to pay it at all.</div>

    No Gator, you're wrong, we still have to pay him his contract, we only don't have to pay the luxury tax of it. It also still effects the salary cap. Basically, this only saves RDV money which he would've had to pay to the NBA for being over the luxury threshold.

    [offtopic]
    I've got the slight feeling that some people just want to read their own posts and don't care for what has already been said or what's being said about this topic later on...

    Which is a pity because I thought that's what a forum is all about...
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    I honestly don?t get this move. We basically gave away a good defender when he is healthy to the Mavericks. If the Mavs wanted expiring deals, and we wanted Finley. Why not have worked out a Finley for Christie deal with some filler to make the deals match? We just waived a guy so he can sign with a team who has a player we want, and they are trying to trade. Go figure...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Coranor:</div><div class="quote_post">I've got the slight feeling that some people just want to read their own posts and don't care for what has already been said or what's being said about this topic later on...

    Which is a pity because I thought that's what a forum is all about...
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    Are you talking about people just posting one liners and trying raise their post count? I have also noticed a lot of this lately and it is getting kind of annoying since copying other people's posts doesn't add anything to a discussion and your post count doesn't matter here on JustBBall.

    Those people need to start forming their own opinions and start posting intellegent posts that add to the discussions. If you want to be respected here on JustBBall, make smart posts and take some time on them rather then just trying to boost a meaningless number in your profile.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I honestly don?t get this move. We basically gave away a good defender when he is healthy to the Mavericks. If the Mavs wanted expiring deals, and we wanted Finley. Why not have worked out a Finley for Christie deal with some filler to make the deals match? We just waived a guy so he can sign with a team who has a player we want, and they are trying to trade. Go figure...</div>
    I don't think the Mavericks would have been interested in a Christie for Finley deal. Every team knew that if we couldn't get anything for Christie we were going to drop him so they figured why lose a player when we can just sign him.

    Another thing that just came into my mind was Otis Smith saying they were keeping Doug Christie in Orlando and don't plan on moving him or dropping him. This is the second time in Smith's short stint as Magic GM that he has said one thing and done the opposite. First it was denying the Keyon Dooling signing and now this. I know they are trying to keep other teams guessing but I hope these smokescreens don't become a pattern since it is frustrating from a fan's point of view.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think the Mavericks would have been interested in a Christie for Finley deal. Every team knew that if we couldn't get anything for Christie we were going to drop him so they figured why lose a player when we can just sign him. I know it seems stupid that we couldn't get anything for him but the other general managers probably figured they didn't have to trade anything for him because they could just sign him.</div>
    I don?t buy that, because if that were the case no one would be offering the Mavericks trades for Finley since they know unless the Mavs get a offer they are going to drop him. The Mavericks stated that they were interested in acquiring expiring contracts for Mike as soon as it was discovered they wanted to trade him. We had two of those Cato and Christie. I don?t know guess it was just wishful thinking, but guess they must have wanted some compensation as well, and not just cap relief.
     

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