I just went to hoopshype.com and it says that Babcock would gladly trade Alston if the right deal would be proposed. He insists that he isnt "shopping" Alston but he will not be a Raptor for long. Babs wants a proven point guard and/or a veteran big man. Everybody knew that he would get traded but this coming from Babs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">Miami sends Simien a future second rounder and a filler. You think they would do that.</div> Simien is just a rookie and Babcock wants either a starting point guard or a veteran big man.
The right move for babcock now is sign Duhon and start with him at PG... and trade Alston for a veteran big man.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Human Highlight:</div><div class="quote_post">Simien is just a rookie and Babcock wants either a starting point guard or a veteran big man.</div> Michael Doleac!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">Michael Doleac!!!</div> Michael Doleac for Rafer Alston? I think we'd have to throw in Bosh for someone of Doleac's caliber. Anyways, if this is true, it wouldn't be a shock. Let's just hope Chicago doesn't match and we can trade Rafer for a good player.
Won't say I'm surprised, and no, Doleac is not in our plans by any means. I'm really not sure who we could get, but it will be interesting to see if he actually does get traded.
Howabout the Raptors trade Alston and package some of next years picks and get an impact starting PG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueBayou87:</div><div class="quote_post">Howabout the Raptors trade Alston and package some of next years picks and get an impact starting PG.</div> Duhon is a capable starter. He played over Gordon in Chicago. Toronto REALLY needs some SG depth. We got Peterson and that's it. Rose can play SG at times, but I don't want him guarding the LeBron's, Kobe's, etc.
Hmm, I don't really know much about Duhon, but the fact that he started over Gordon makes me begin to like him, also I just read about it on Raps.com and I love the assists.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dunkzilla20:</div><div class="quote_post">I just went to hoopshype.com and it says that Babcock would gladly trade Alston if the right deal would be proposed. He insists that he isnt "shopping" Alston but he will not be a Raptor for long. Babs wants a proven point guard and/or a veteran big man. Everybody knew that he would get traded but this coming from Babs.</div> Well, I doubt Rafer will be traded this early in the season. The idea of getting Duhon will surely put pressure on Rafer, which Babcock will use to try and get Alston to play even better. Alston will get traded soon enough though, but I'm sure there will be a lot of teams interested; there is just nothing there for Mitchell and Rafer. Since the beginning, you knew there wouldn't be any chemistry.
how about a sign a trade to Chicago Chris Duhon and Eric Piatkowski for Rafer Alston It would give us 5 Rafael Araujo Pape Sow/Loren Woods 4 Chris Bosh Charlie Villanueva 3 Jalen Rose Joey Graham 2 Mo Pete Eric Piatkowski 1 Chris Duhon Jose Calderon Then Eric William, Aaron William and Lamond Murray are totally expendable. You can send Eric Williams and Aaron Williams to Memphis for Lorenzen Wright and buyout Lamond Murray's contract. Just a thought
Rafer Alston for Bob Sura works He could be a great back-up combo guard, so does RA for Mike James. Same with RA for Carlos Arroyo, RA for Speedy Claxton, and if you package Alston with Murray plus a pick you could probably get a more expensive but effective replacement.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Carcharias:</div><div class="quote_post">how about a sign a trade to Chicago Chris Duhon and Eric Piatkowski for Rafer Alston It would give us 5 Rafael Araujo Pape Sow/Loren Woods 4 Chris Bosh Charlie Villanueva 3 Jalen Rose Joey Graham 2 Mo Pete Eric Piatkowski 1 Chris Duhon Jose Calderon Then Eric William, Aaron William and Lamond Murray are totally expendable. You can send Eric Williams and Aaron Williams to Memphis for Lorenzen Wright and buyout Lamond Murray's contract. Just a thought</div> they wouldnt trade lorenzn for williamses they want more maybe a first rounder also
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Carcharias:</div><div class="quote_post">how about a sign a trade to Chicago Chris Duhon and Eric Piatkowski for Rafer Alston It would give us 5 Rafael Araujo Pape Sow/Loren Woods 4 Chris Bosh Charlie Villanueva 3 Jalen Rose Joey Graham 2 Mo Pete Eric Piatkowski 1 Chris Duhon Jose Calderon Then Eric William, Aaron William and Lamond Murray are totally expendable. You can send Eric Williams and Aaron Williams to Memphis for Lorenzen Wright and buyout Lamond Murray's contract. Just a thought</div> A sign-and-trade is impossible once a player signs an offer sheet. It's either the Bulls match the offer or they don't. I think you guys are going overboard with this one. Babcock said other teams are interested in all the Raptor players on the roster, and he said he is not shopping Alston. I'll post a re-cap of the interview between Babcock and Swirsky on Fan590 yesterday. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">- Bulls will take their time to match depending on other factors... - They have a lot of other players/decisions to make--which is why Toronto jumped in and tried to get him... - Long shot to get Duhon... - Not significantly more than what Chicago was offering Duhon... - Unlikely that we get Duhon, but there is a chance, good timing for it... - Duhon: quality, young, fits our future style... - The offer doesn't hold us back because we don't have much else going on... - Bonner is probably gone if Duhon signs, not enough money left over... - Risk that we lose Matt (we want to keep him), but it's an opportunity to improve an area of our club for the future we can't look past... - If they match, we continue to look to sign Matt... - Point guard situation "shored-up" if we get to keep Duhon... - League average for point guards higher than what we'd be spending for Alston, Duhon, and Calderon... - Chris is willing to come here knowing that he'd have competition... - Were impressed by Duhon last year when he visited Toronto, says he likes it here... - Gives us more depth at the guard position, gives us flexibility (Rafer and Jose can both play the two)... - Pushes everyone involved, competitive individuals... - Not shopping Rafer Alston... - Every player on our team draws interest from other teams, but we're not shopping Rafer... - Tough to make moves with limited finances, but he doesn't worry about it, worries about what he has... - He knew what the cap situation was when he took the job... - Every team in the League competes under the same rules... - Misconceptions about getting under the cap and luxery tax line (two different things)... - Difficult to create space under the cap to sign big free agents... - Toronto clears money off of payroll and stays under luxery tax line; enables you to make better financial decisions for the club... - Don't have to hesitate on MLE players, matching restricted free agents, trades where more money is coming to you than going from you... - More wiggle-room on the way (two years from now)... - Wants to develop a roster where we have a good level of contracts that is comparitive to the players ability level so that people are being payed fairly for their services and they are in line with where they stand on the team in terms of ability... - Amnesty clause on Alvin Williams? He's still working to try and get healthy and isn't under consideration for the rule; useful player on and off the court if he can get healthy... - Is Sow more important than Bonner considering the drafting of Villanueva? We want both back... - Pape is a 4/5, Matt is a 3/4, totally different players... - Pape was an easy signing, Matt is a difficult one... - Pape has signed a two-year deal with the team... </div>
Alston....I am suprised if we could get him for yogi stewart. This guy some serious attitude issues that needs to e fixed. I am sure that this is just another move by Babcock to scare him because no one wants rafer.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_rap:</div><div class="quote_post">Alston....I am suprised if we could get him for yogi stewart. This guy some serious attitude issues that needs to e fixed. I am sure that this is just another move by Babcock to scare him because no one wants rafer. </div> It wasn't a move to 'scare' Rafer, if anything it was a move to motivate him by giving him a dose of competition. I think as soon as we get rid of Jalen Rose, Rafer will behave much better. Look at Rasheed Wallace, his rep was a trouble maker when he was with the Jailblazers, but as soon as he got traded to the Pistons he redeemed himself as a good guy on and off the court. The difference? Players surrounding him. If Alston is surrounded by guys like Bosh / Villanueva / Graham, he will blossom.
The Raptors should trade Alston but for another PG, look at who we have at the moment. Alvin Williams coming back from injury and Jose Manuel Calderon, a rookie from a Euro league. Ukic was huge around draft time, why hasnt he been signed yet? ------------ <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There are only a few point guards available who would fit Babcock's criteria, although the market is rapidly shrinking. Memphis's Earl Watson, Miami's Damon Jones and Atlanta's Tyronn Lue are three who are still available but likely too expensive for Toronto.</div> Link
