Mitch Sleeping at the Wheel Again

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  1. shankyoass

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    Does Rose not play kind of like Pippen? They are both pretty versatile, and both can pass pretty well. Rose could be a poor-man's Pippen. Rose + Kobe kind of trying to remake Jordan + Pippen, except not as good? Or maybe Kobe + Lamar being Jordan + Pippen, with Rose playing the role of Toni Kukoc?
     
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    wut if we would have got sam classel..like trade one of our back up SF's and some picks for him than we would have that PG we need and look the clippers got him now so we are hurting more now since we have to LA teams now
     
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    I completely agree. People keep saying the laker lineup isn't talented compared to most teams in the west; I disagree, as I said before I think every position is solid. Anyways we do need that bigger gaurd- DA said he'd sign for less the the MLE if the situation fit, I read that on hoopshype.com i think. Anyways what other gaurds are out there that we could feasibly still get to run our point?
     
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    ^ there's still pargo i think, lue, and brevin knight. i personally like the combo of lue and pargo, like i have said many times before.
     
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    I think that Derek Anderson, backuped by Lue would be optimal. If that doesn't happen then Lue and Pargo would be the best bet.
     
  6. Shapecity

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    Scratch Jalen Rose from joining the Lakers via the waiver wire. So far there hasn't been too, many players cut who could help the P&G. I'll update the list as the teams announce the players they've waived.

    - 76ers - Aaron McKie
    - Bucks - Calvin Booth
    - Nets - Ron Mercer
    - Blazers - Derek Anderson
    - Knicks - Jerome Williams
    - Magic - Doug Christie
     
  7. adiii

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    Dude Cartwright, Longley and Wellington were awesome centers. They did their job, but in reality Mihm is not that bad, he's an alright center. Rose can play point, if he gets the chance to do it with LA, the Lakers barring no injuries should take the 8th seed, maybe even up to the 6th seed, so hopefully the Raptors waive Rose cuz they don't really need him anyway. I love Derek Anderson and he would be great anywhere, great player. Yeah Cassell would have been solid for the Lakers, the Clippers are looking nice this year.

    When I first saw the thread title, I thought Mitch was caught Drinking and Driving or something..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting holyace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude Cartwright, Longley and Wellington were awesome centers. They did their job, but in reality Mihm is not that bad, he's an alright center. Rose can play point, if he gets the chance to do it with LA, the Lakers barring no injuries should take the 8th seed, maybe even up to the 6th seed, so hopefully the Raptors waive Rose cuz they don't really need him anyway.</div>
    The Raptors tabbed Mourning as their Amnesty cut, so the only way for the Lakers to acquire Rose is through trade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Raptors tabbed Mourning as their Amnesty cut, so the only way for the Lakers to acquire Rose is through trade.</div>
    Any Trade involving Rose would probably include Divac's contract, George, and Medvedenko and a pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Raptors tabbed Mourning as their Amnesty cut, so the only way for the Lakers to acquire Rose is through trade.</div>

    That was probably the better move for the Raptors, and I doubt that anyone really wants to trade for Rose and his lovely contract that comes with him. Unless the Raptors throw in..no, no nobody is going to go for Rose..
     
  11. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Any Trade involving Rose would probably include Divac's contract, George, and Medvedenko and a pick.</div>

    Sounds like a stupid trade Mitch would actually consider. Trading all the Lakers expiring contracts, and the 2006 draft pick (Miami's) for Jalen Rose.

    However, this is far too, much for the Lakers to even consider. They might as well sign DA for the entire MLE instead. If this is the "superstar" player Mitch alluded to earlier in the summer then I'll be sick to my stomach as a Laker fan.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Sounds like a stupid trade Mitch would actually consider. Trading all the Lakers expiring contracts, and the 2006 draft pick (Miami's) for Jalen Rose.

    However, this is far too, much for the Lakers to even consider. They might as well sign DA for the entire MLE instead. If this is the "superstar" player Mitch alluded to earlier in the summer then I'll be sick to my stomach as a Laker fan.</div>
    Shape it isn't as bad as it sounds. First the Heat pick is going to be 27-30th range. Secondly you are trading expiring contracts, but Jalen's expires the next year, when the Lakers are trying to sign some big FAs.
     
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    Has Toronto even voiced any intention of trading Rose?
     
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    Trading for Rose would be a stupid move, we would weaken our already weak bench for a player that is overpriced. While it is good that he would only be on the books for two years, you also have to think; in two years when Kwame and hopefully Bynum will have developed we will be once again, without a PG.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Sounds like a stupid trade Mitch would actually consider. Trading all the Lakers expiring contracts, and the 2006 draft pick (Miami's) for Jalen Rose.

    However, this is far too, much for the Lakers to even consider. They might as well sign DA for the entire MLE instead. If this is the "superstar" player Mitch alluded to earlier in the summer then I'll be sick to my stomach as a Laker fan.</div>


    I dont think its as bad as you make it seem personally. It's one more year's worth of contracts and as much as a 2nd rounder as it is a first, for a player that can play 3 positions including point gaurd, has said he'd love to be a Laker and can still put up 18-3-3 last year with 45% shooting and a 39.4 3-point%.
    Rose can be a matchup problem for many many players in the league becuase if his tremendous range of skills and his size. 6-8 and strong he is definately a player that the Zen master would love to use.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ilive4ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Trading for Rose would be a stupid move, we would weaken our already weak bench for a player that is overpriced. While it is good that he would only be on the books for two years, you also have to think; in two years when Kwame and hopefully Bynum will have developed we will be once again, without a PG.</div>


    but you'll be in the free agent market big time! And there's some decent free agents coming out in 2 years i hear [​IMG]
     
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    What is our CAP money like know? What is our total amount spent on contracts right now? I don't think there is any need in starting a new thread over this so I'd just post it here.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">but you'll be in the free agent market big time! And there's some decent free agents coming out in 2 years i hear [​IMG]</div>

    I actually change my mind. I agree with civic, trading for Rose would be a good idea, the cap space would be unbelievable and Rose would help keep the Lakers afloat during those 2yrs while the Zenmaster gets his team ready for a run at the Championship the 3rd (and final?) year with the adding of a big name in 2007.
     
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    Skiptomylue11 & civic02 you both bring up some valid and positive points about Jalen Rose. If the Raptors had waived him, I would have loved for the Lakers to pursue him. However, with the Lakers having to trade for Rose, it's going to end up costing the team quite a bit. The Lakers don't have much depth, especially in the frontline after losing Turiaf to heart surgery and waiving Brian Grant. Right now the backup PFs on the roster are Brian Cook and Slava, which puts tremendous pressure on Kwame Brown to play well. The Lakers also don't really have a backup center, since Divac is likely retiring and Bynum is simply not ready to contribute.

    By acquiring Rose, the Lakers are already giving the Raptors tremendous financial help, by giving up 3 expiring contracts. Plus the Lakers have to throw in a future 1st rounder. It's a steep price to pay for Rose, because the Lakers don't have the depth to afford giving up two players. Slava and George are also a few of the players familiar with the Triangle offense.

    I'd rather the Lakers split the MLE on a PG and PF, then be patient and wait until the trade deadline to unload their expiring contracts.

    I'm still hoping the Lakers can acquire Earl Watson, who is willing to take half of the MLE if the team agrees to a four year deal. For some reason Mitch has not jumped at this bargain because he's hell bent on this 2007 master plan. However, I don't see how $2.5M for Watson is going to put much of a dent in the Lakers cap space.

    Laker_fan to answer your cap question the Lakers are close to $70Million for this upcoming season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> Right now the backup PFs on the roster are Brian Cook and Slava, which puts tremendous pressure on Kwame Brown to play well. The Lakers also don't really have a backup center, since Divac is likely retiring and Bynum is simply not ready to contribute. </div>
    If Rose is attained, I would not be surprized if Lamar plays some minutes at PF while Rose is at SF. Kobe at SG, Mihm or Kwame at C, and one of your young pgs.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">By acquiring Rose, the Lakers are already giving the Raptors tremendous financial help, by giving up 3 expiring contracts. Plus the Lakers have to throw in a future 1st rounder. It's a steep price to pay for Rose, because the Lakers don't have the depth to afford giving up two players. Slava and George are also a few of the players familiar with the Triangle offense. </div>
    The Lakers will not have cap room the next year, nor will the Raptors. So expiring contracts won't affect the Laker's goal. George seems to have struggled with his injury, and Slava isn't what I consider a truly amazing player.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm still hoping the Lakers can acquire Earl Watson, who is willing to take half of the MLE if the team agrees to a four year deal. For some reason Mitch has not jumped at this bargain because he's hell bent on this 2007 master plan. However, I don't see how $2.5M for Watson is going to put much of a dent in the Lakers cap space. </div>
    That would be an excellent contract to sign, Watson is easily worth 2.5 mill over 4 years.
     

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