<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Celtics' point is becoming a more crowded place by the day. According to sources, the club is on the verge of signing 26-year-old veteran Dan Dickau. Barring a trade to loosen the logjam, the 6-footer will be joined in training camp by holdovers Marcus Banks and Delonte West, second-round draft pick Orien Greene and rookie free agent Will Bynum, who was signed yesterday to a two-year contract (with a guarantee on just the first of those). Director of basketball operations Danny Ainge had said he wanted to add some experience to the position, and the acquisition of Dickau will do that - barely. The Gonzaga product has been in the league three seasons and has been the property of six NBA teams, playing for four of them. Dickau got his best chance last year after an early season move from Dallas to New Orleans. In 67 games for the Hornets, he started 46 and averaged 13.2 points and 5.2 assists in 31.0 minutes. He has career-highs of 28 points and 16 assists. </div> http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/vi...articleid=98856 First Bynum, now Dickau? Somebody has to be getting traded (Marcus). Five point guards is just crazy. I have to say that I'm pleased with the possible addition of Danny Dickau. I saw him play many times with Gonzaga and I think a tandem of him and Delonte would be both exciting and effective. The only problem I have with Danny is his defense. That's something my boy's gonna have to work on.
This is ridiculous! What in God's name is going on? I love the idea that they're being ambitious, but for God's sake, someone draw the line. I guess it would be a good thing having a guy with a more seasoned hand, but this really isn't that big a jump. Dickau isn't what I would call something special, but I think he could get the job done for a season or two. But after that, it's strictly out the door for that poor white boy. I think I'm getting a brain cramp, this just doesn't make sense to me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ignignot:</div><div class="quote_post">This is ridiculous! What in God's name is going on? I love the idea that they're being ambitious, but for God's sake, someone draw the line. I guess it would be a good thing having a guy with a more seasoned hand, but this really isn't that big a jump. Dickau isn't what I would call something special, but I think he could get the job done for a season or two. But after that, it's strictly out the door for that poor white boy. I think I'm getting a brain cramp, this just doesn't make sense to me.</div> i am not happy with the pg gaurd signing in bynum....and if we get dan its even worse.....bankds is better then both of these dudes.....and theres still greene and delonte too.....if we were to get a pg we shoulda have gone solid vet such as watson not to young guys with no exprirence.....i just dont get it?....i dont wanna see marcuz leave hes fast he plays hard great defense.....dan and bynum are no banks
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtsfan2589:</div><div class="quote_post">i am not happy with the pg gaurd signing in bynum....and if we get dan its even worse.....bankds is better then both of these dudes.....and theres still greene and delonte too.....if we were to get a pg we shoulda have gone solid vet such as watson not to young guys with no exprirence.....i just dont get it?....i dont wanna see marcuz leave hes fast he plays hard great defense.....dan and bynum are no banks</div>I would guess that Bynum is likely to be an NBDL guy. He was only guaranteed a year and they can move him up and down as needed, so that's the route I'm sure they'll go with him. As for Marcus, I think he'll be sent away in another deal. Why? Because his value is still high and we might be able to get rid of Blount using him. I know he plays great D, but have you had a chance to check out Orien Greene? He's a defensive beast. He should be able to have a similar impact on games. Lastly, what do you have against Dickau? He's been around for a little while in the league and really played well last season. His numbers with NO are comparable to those that GP had here last year. Sure, he's no superstar, but considering we have no money left and we are likely to sign him for 2-3 years only -- this is nothing to complain about. If we can secure him, we should consider ourselves lucky. By the way, Banks being traded is just speculation on my part. He could very well stay here and we could be 3 deep at the point with Delonte/Banks/Dickau. That's entirely possible and I don't think it would be far-fetched to see Danny go with such a depth approach.
D-West > Dickau. not a huge signing but if it results in the trading away of marcus banks then maybe its for the best
Boy, Ainge must have something up his sleeve. Will Bynum is a shorter version of Marcus Banks. Trust me on this one, Ive played with and against Will in some leagues and pick up games here in ATL and I can tell you he is only about 5'9 5 10 at the most. He is an explosive leaper (as evident when he tried to dunk on the entire Kansas Jayhawk team) with an ok jumper and good defensive intensity. I know someone is going to the NBDL but someone must be on their way out of here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">I would guess that Bynum is likely to be an NBDL guy. He was only guaranteed a year and they can move him up and down as needed, so that's the route I'm sure they'll go with him. As for Marcus, I think he'll be sent away in another deal. Why? Because his value is still high and we might be able to get rid of Blount using him. I know he plays great D, but have you had a chance to check out Orien Greene? He's a defensive beast. He should be able to have a similar impact on games. Lastly, what do you have against Dickau? He's been around for a little while in the league and really played well last season. His numbers with NO are comparable to those that GP had here last year. Sure, he's no superstar, but considering we have no money left and we are likely to sign him for 2-3 years only -- this is nothing to complain about. If we can secure him, we should consider ourselves lucky. By the way, Banks being traded is just speculation on my part. He could very well stay here and we could be 3 deep at the point with Delonte/Banks/Dickau. That's entirely possible and I don't think it would be far-fetched to see Danny go with such a depth approach.</div> the fact that gp and dans numbers were comparable is irrelevent.....dan was one of the only people that ahd talent on the sorry excuse of a team last year....us on the other hand had many telented and high scoring players....if gp was with the hornets he would have been puttin up 20 points and a solid 7 assits just like he used to....and in my opinion banks is better then bynum and dan...so why sign them and trade whats better?....i dont dislike dan or bynum but i dont think we need them...we already have 3 young point gaurds...why sign 2 more of the same but less talented?....i dont like how this thread hates on marcus is either....hes lighting fast...plays solid in your face defense....his jumper has improved...and he even showed up to the summer league practices with out notice to practice with the younger guys and to work on his game....thats passion right there....why get rid of that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtsfan2589:</div><div class="quote_post">the fact that gp and dans numbers were comparable is irrelevent.....dan was one of the only people that ahd talent on the sorry excuse of a team last year....us on the other hand had many telented and high scoring players....if gp was with the hornets he would have been puttin up 20 points and a solid 7 assits just like he used to....and in my opinion banks is better then bynum and dan...so why sign them and trade whats better?....i dont dislike dan or bynum but i dont think we need them...we already have 3 young point gaurds...why sign 2 more of the same but less talented?....i dont like how this thread hates on marcus is either....hes lighting fast...plays solid in your face defense....his jumper has improved...and he even showed up to the summer camp with out notice to practice with the team and to work on his game....thats passion right there....why get rid of that?</div> exactly marcus has come a long way since we got him he has a ton of speed that he can use to push the ball up the courts and use on fast breaks and he aint afraid 2 get in your face and play d lets not forget about the block he had in pheonix against hunter that was amazing.... plus with him and delonte the future looks real bright no disrespect 2 dickau but he isn't that good sure when your playing for the hornets and your taking shots whenver u want and have no talent around you your going to look good but since this team has lots of talented players y mess with that bynum isn't even going 2 play on the team and dan isn't a big signing its not going 2 make our team better i would rather keep it jus with greene banks and west those are the pg's of the future and the future is now!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtics34:</div><div class="quote_post">exactly marcus has come a long way since we got him he has a ton of speed that he can use to push the ball up the courts and use on fast breaks and he aint afraid 2 get in your face and play d lets not forget about the block he had in pheonix against hunter that was amazing.... plus with him and delonte the future looks real bright no disrespect 2 dickau but he isn't that good sure when your playing for the hornets and your taking shots whenver u want and have no talent around you your going to look good but since this team has lots of talented players y mess with that bynum isn't even going 2 play on the team and dan isn't a big signing its not going 2 make our team better i would rather keep it jus with greene banks and west those are the pg's of the future and the future is now!</div> ^^^
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MAKEOUTCITY:</div><div class="quote_post">Please give us a PG...please!!!</div> smh at toronto lacking a gm with a brain
yeah, i have been wondering why people have been hating on Marcus Banks?? the few times i have seen him play, i have been quite impressed, so damn quick! Not sure what Danny Ainge is doin with Dickau, i mean, its almost like he's desperate to get dickau n get rid of banks...n im not sure why? I could understand if marcus was used as bait to dump off blounts contract, but if ainge just want to get rid of banks to make room for dickau...then, that doesnt make a lot of sense....ah well, im sure he has some sort of master plan...well, lets hope he does!
Value. That's why Banks is being discussed in potential deals. I don't think Ainge wants to give him up -- but I think he's willing to. Delonte is their man at the point whether Banks stays or not. If Marcus can be a valuable bargaining chip for Danny, then he's going to trade him. IMO, there's nothing about Marcus' game that is irreplaceable, and if his trade value can get rid of Blount's contract or solidify another position, then we should trade him. However, I do agree that trading Marcus just for the sake of trading him is pointless and something I would not be happy with. I also think you guys are underrating Dickau. Being a point guard for a team that has no talent doesn't make it any easier to put up numbers. Your scoring will probably be better, but it must be harder to rack up the assists when the talent level around you is so horrible. Dan Dickau's potential deal with us has been reported, by FSN NE, to be in the area of 7 million over 3 years...a very minor cap hit for a talented player like him. Hopefully we can sign him to that no matter what happens with Banks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Value. That's why Banks is being discussed in potential deals. I don't think Ainge wants to give him up -- but I think he's willing to. Delonte is their man at the point whether Banks stays or not. If Marcus can be a valuable bargaining chip for Danny, then he's going to trade him. IMO, there's nothing about Marcus' game that is irreplaceable, and if his trade value can get rid of Blount's contract or solidify another position, then we should trade him. However, I do agree that trading Marcus just for the sake of trading him is pointless and something I would not be happy with. I also think you guys are underrating Dickau. Being a point guard for a team that has no talent doesn't make it any easier to put up numbers. Your scoring will probably be better, but it must be harder to rack up the assists when the talent level around you is so horrible. Dan Dickau's potential deal with us has been reported, by FSN NE, to be in the area of 7 million over 3 years...a very minor cap hit for a talented player like him. Hopefully we can sign him to that no matter what happens with Banks.</div> dan dickau couldnt get playing time when he was with the atlanta hawks....not to soudn rude...but i think you are overrating him if anything....he had one OKAY year and the only reason he had an okay year was because the team consisted of him and J.R smith.....80% of dans assits went to J.R....if this kid cant get playing time with the hawks i dont think he can be as talented as you think....and just to dump off blount to include banks is crazy...IMO banks is better then delonte....i havent seen the speed or defesne from delonte....dont get me wrong i think delonte is a hell of a player and better on offense but havent you heard the old saying..."offense wins games...defense wins championships"....dickau seems liek a pointless siging hes defense is horrible... and i dont wanna part someone with as much potential as banks to dump off blount
