This is just a question to spark the chicago fans here at JBB. "Is pax bias toward guards?" If the situation was turned and it was Gordan & Deng that were up for a contract would they be signed by now? The reason I say this is because Pax was a good guard that was blessed to play around two of the best guards ever to play the game (Mike,Pip). And seeing the success that the bulls had without a legitimat post scorer, Do you think that can weigh in on his feelings about Chandler and Curry? With all of his draft picks performing well above expectations, does he respect what he was given coming into this situation (Curry, Chandler)? Air your feelings about Pax. Does he value his guards over the bigs?
Well I can understand Currym because they're still tryin to find insurance for him. But I dont know about Chandler, so you might have a point.
First off, Pippen wasn't a guard. Pax played with Ron Harper, Michael Jordan and Steve Kerr as far as guards are concerned, and that's very good company. However, I don't really understand your justification for that contributing to him being biased toward guards? Say he likes Ben Gordon better than Eddy Curry, couldn't that be because Ben Gordon is, or is going to be, a better play than Eddy? Just an idea. If I were him I'd definetly value Hinrich and Gordon over Chandler and Curry.. they have more of a future for the organization.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting H.ayes:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, Pippen wasn't a guard. Pax played with Ron Harper, Michael Jordan and Steve Kerr as far as guards are concerned, and that's very good company. However, I don't really understand your justification for that contributing to him being biased toward guards? Say he likes Ben Gordon better than Eddy Curry, couldn't that be because Ben Gordon is, or is going to be, a better play than Eddy? Just an idea. If I were him I'd definetly value Hinrich and Gordon over Chandler and Curry.. they have more of a future for the organization.</div> I never Stated my opinion I just asked for yours. Please stick to the subject of the Thread and dont be so critical. I know that pippen wasnt Titled as a guard but he was a guard. when mike was out he was our guard. and pip also ran point from time to time. Another thing Pax never played with Ron Harper or Steve Kerr since you want to be technical. But I value your opinion and thanks for posting. Go Bulls!
I don't think he values guards more. I think he's just trying to be smart because both Chandler and Curry are restricted. Paxson is not jumping the gun too much and seeing what the market is offering for his FA's. So far its worked i think, noone has offered both our big FA's any contracts. Imagine Hawks offered Curry a max contract, we'd either let him go or match it. But since noone has offered either of them anything we don't have to match any ridiculous offers from desperate teams.
good points. I think that If the Hawks gave Curry the max chicago wouldnt match. But noone has the balls to call Paxs bluff.
This is a good thread thanks for bumping it up Michigan I had not even seen it. I have two views on the matter. Do I think that Paxson values guards over big men in the free agent market? Absolutely not, Paxson is a good GM he does not like to rush things, and just throw money around because players are talented. There are many players who will be up for extensions in the near future, like you mentioned the guards Gordon, Hinrich, and Deng so he needs money to resign those players as well. Should he have been bias to guards Crawford would have gotten an extension before his deal expired, and still be around he does what is best for the team as a whole. Also Chandler and Curry have not proved as much in a longer period of time then Deng, Hinrich, and Gordon have. Chandler has a career average of nine points and eight rebounds so he is still got the ?potential? label on him. Should he have been averaging 18 and 10 he would probably have been locked up a lot earlier. If Deng, Gordon, and Hinrich are all averaging over twenty points or high teens I do expect them to be locked up a lot earlier then Chandler was. Like previously said the Curry situation is unique do to the health issues, but has nothing to do with favoritism. A pure talented big man is one of the hardest things to get in the league, and Paxson doesn?t want to lose them. Going back to what I previously alluded to I do think Paxson is bias in a way to guards when he is in practice, and team meetings In giving advice, and mentoring them. Does he try to be? Probably not, but he can not help it due to his history at the position. So bias in the advice he gives? Probably. Bias when it comes to signing players? No.
With the recent curry trade and with chicago up in the air on who we are welcoming to our great city do you guys still think Pax holds any favoritism towards his guards. my opinion is that Pax didnt want to risk Curry destroying this young team with his negativity. Honestly I dont think that he ever liked currys effort during his tenure. It took a contract year for him to finally get in shape. Pax has been a good judge of character at the GM position. BUt I still think that if it wouldve been Hinrich in the same position as Curyy things wouldve gone differently. Go Bulls! P.S. good luck Curry and Welcome to whomever.
Prove he doesn't here Paxson offered Curry 400,000 dollars a year for the next 50 years to take the DNA test pass or fail. Curry refused Curry is at fault for his leaving, not Paxson.
Sorry to bring this thread back, but I thought it was still a fitting subject. Here we are an off-season later Hinrich is up for an extension, he has yet to be signed, and according to reports they are not close to coming to an agreement yet. Ben Wallace a big man was signed to a lucrative deal. Does anyone still think Paxson values his guards over big men?
I think it is more of who is a priority. i think Pax feels that hinrich WILL sign, but he wasnt so sure about ben wallace, so now he will get hinrich signed as soon as possible. Plus maybe hinrich's agent is playing hardball, who knows, but hinrich is a huge guy that the bulls NEED to sign.
naw i dont think he values his guards more then his bigs. Remember Paxson did not draft/or trade to get them so to me ofcourse its probably going to seem that way. We WOULD NOT have gotten them if Paxson was our GM n 2001 .
its funny how some threads come full circle.I never gave my opinion in this thread now I guess this is the perfect time to do so. When thread was created who wouldve thought that We would have Big Ben. Its funny how Both of our Bigs are gone........ now isnt that ironic. It must be fun to be John right now though. BUt my true opinions are this. I dont think that he believes One position is more valuable than the other. I think that hes trying to build something special here in Chicago. He has brought 1 guy over who was a bum (T.T.). Done a great job getting rid of dead weight. We lost some players who were valuable in the prsess but those are the breaks. The thing that separates Pax from Isaiah is Logic. Isaih picks players he feels will be great for the Knicks While pax Looks for the Logical fit to our Team. A guy that would buy into our game plan and play hard on both sides of the floor. Pax is best at picking players that are eager to improve their game. With Most of our players maturing this will be a great season to watch. But Pax doesnt like guards over bigs. He likes tuff guys over finess guys. Go Bulls!!!
